Man's Inhumanity To Man

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    hmmmmm short term memory problem>>>>You said>>>>40+ something times the GOP has voted to repeal Obamacare. How many times has the GOP voted to repeal the USAPATRIOT Act?

    Listen Chump(now do not feel to bad--most liberals do not understand this).....National Security Trumps The Constitution.
     
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    Indeed. For an excellent read on the topic, I recommend Rummel's "Death by Government"

    [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Death-Government-R-J-Rummel/dp/1560009276/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1395939281&sr=8-1&keywords=death+by+government]Death by Government: R. J. Rummel: 9781560009276: Amazon.com: Books[/ame]


    Great info at Power Kills, as well.

    DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER
     
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    Hey bub. What's the body count and concentration camp population under the Patriot Act?
     
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    The body count under Bush? I'm not exactly sure. Does anyone have the correct numbers? Tens of thousands, at least.

    The body count as a direct result of the USAPATRIOT Act is probably zero. However, the cost to American liberty is serious enough on its own.
    AP IMPACT: After 40 years, $1 trillion, US War on Drugs has failed to meet any of its goals | Fox News
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/04/business/in-rethinking-the-war-on-drugs-start-with-the-numbers.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
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    All the morons who mistakenly believe the Constitution is written in stone like the Ten Commandments and is the guarantor* of our freedoms are living in a state of ignorance.

    Many however do understand that in times of War(yes we are at war)the President must have the power to conduct that war in a way that prededicates the greatest chance for victory...now past presidents have violated the constitution in order to enhance National Security...aka Abe Lincoln....https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...ds-cse&usg=AFQjCNHvOLq2iswIPIKTlenb4f1Y2a48Eg

    So it is nothing new....just common sense....The President's first obligation is to protect and preserve the American People....just the other day Obama said he worried more about a nuclear bomb being detonated in NYC than anything else...do you not undersand if such a plot was discovered that the President would not hesitate to violate any and everyone's civil liberties if required to foil the plot. Dude you and the rest of the foolish liberals need to get real.

    Now..also...and since I always follow the truth..........there admittedly is great danger in the Presidency have such powers...but the truth is he has them.

    That is why it is so vital to have a President that is truely American to the core and beyond suspicion...that is the main reason for the requirement that a President be born in America etc. and the whole reason behind the recent controversy regarding the origins of the most mysterious and secretive President in our history.



    HowStuffWorks "How Executive Orders Work"
     
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    I'll take due process for $500.
     
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    I have to laugh at all those people who really believe the Constitution is the great gurantor of their rights...that it is inviolable, set in stone...and insures our freedoms.

    The Presidency aka the 'The Executive Branch' can overide the constitution and has many times in the past.


    For the real truth of this matter>>>>>THE EXECUTIVE ORDER
     
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    It sure is but maybe not in the direction or by whom you think is taking control.
    Subversive ways deceive.


     
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    Thank you for confirming that you are moral relativistic moron.

    The Patriot Act is no where near the equivalent of Stalin, Mao, and Hitler exterminating millions of their subjects.
     

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