MAn facing 1st degree Murder for defending his home...

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    http://www.nj.com/news/gloucester/index.ssf?/base/news-1/1083230499109300.xml

    You might have to type in a zip and birth year. Just make one up.

    I think that this DA is outta control asking for 1st degree murder on this guy. He shouldnt even be tried because they were breaking into his property. More facts in the case that arent included here show that the shed itself was merely 8 feet from the man's back door. It also was in a position where his wife usually parks her car when she returns home from work. His wife was due to return home within 5-20 minutes he said. He was afraid one of the guys would try to grab her as a hostage. I think this guy was well within his rights regardless of what the stupid NJ law says.
     
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    Lib:"Let's lock up this greedy vigilante and throw away the key. Property rights are racism anyway.":rolleyes:
     
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    I like the Arkansas laws. If you step onto my lawn, I have to warn you, then I can call the police. You take one step inside my house or car, or you grab anything that's mine and try to run, I have the right to shoot you. There aren't a whole lot of cat burglers in Arkansas, since so many people own guns.
     
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    I believe our society would be crime free if all adults were required to carry a sidearm.
     
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    If it were california, he would have to prove the guy was on his property, stealing his stuff, AND IN THE PROCESS of taking his life.

    THEN you can shoot.

    Kind of useless at that point.

    Its just another way of taking the guns.
     
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    I'd rather face a jury of my peers than have to be forcibly raped or injured. I don't think anyone can say decisively, that burglars don't rape/injure/kidnap/kill.

    My property, my gun, your life...you get the picture.
     
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    I think it's ridiculous that this man would even be taken to trial. He did what he thought was right to protect himself and his wife who was to arrive home soon. It was a matter of protection and I think he made the right decision. How was he to know that the burglars "didn't" have guns themselves anyway?
     
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    Hardly First degree murder though. First Degree murder has always said that a person must have malicious intent to kill the victim. He was defending himself and his property.

    Whats really at stake here is some socialist DA that wants to make an example of someone by showing that your property doesnt belong to you and that you don't have a right to defend it. To hear some of the people making comments about this case around philly, you'd lose your mind. People saying that he should have run away and allowed them to steal the property. What is that? Its Socialist redistribution without all the paperwork. He called the police. He feared for his life and his wife's. He was well within his rights as a citizen of the US.
     
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    Yea thats the thing. We're thinking after the fact with a cool head and clear vision. If im walking outside, in the rain, and 2 guys are breaking into my shed, my heart is racing and i don't know what to expect. Adrenaline takes over and you just try to survive.

    I hate how he is the suspect and they are the victims though. Such a dumbass liberal prosecution system.
     
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    "Its just another way of taking the guns."

    Amen. Good point. I too believe that this is simply back-door gun control.

    I also believe this is an excellent example of why our justice system is more frequently called a "legal system" these days. Justice is no longer the aim. It is a game fought between government bureaucrats and defense systers. Neither care about justice or the truth. Many district attornies care nothing about the facts. Some have hidden exculpatory evidence because they do not care about guilt or innocence. They only care about their win-lose ratio. Then there are those like Johnny Cockroach. They will obfuscate the truth with elaborate fabrications to save a client they KNOW is guilty. They do not care about guilt or innocence. They are simply vying for another notch on their briefcases.
     

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