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Does anyone have any idea what this refers to or what it is supposed to mean?
Yes. That's what I read, too.It means Midcan thinks the study is ignorant made up crap.
Yes. That's what I read, too.
Of course, he doesnt offer anything to back up that opinion.
It doesn't need a study for proof; it only needs a tiny bit of thought. We are the most armed (guns) society probably in the history of the world and yet we have shooting upon shootings, do you need a study to see that? If I am going out in a blaze of glory (in the killer's mind) how rational am I to start with? Do any of these people consider that someone else may be armed and thus go home and become overnight sane, well meaning citizens? So long as guns are worshiped we will have these situations.
And if everyone were armed would that be a good thing? Ever been in a crowded traffic situation with everyone beeping, impatient and slightly nutty - now imagine them armed!
The study sets out to find something, it finds it, so what, sloppy ideas result in sloppy conclusions.
As I posted, seems 3 studies did follow ups, hoping to find different conclusions, well they must not have been sloppy thinkers, but they still came to the same up with the same conclusions.
The point is, arming people to prevent people from killing each other seems a wee bit absurd. If this theory had even a smidgen of truth, societies where citizens were less armed would need to be shown to be more dangerous. This is a classic horse and cart argument. Remains stupid - and if there are others that call it so glad to hear that.
It doesn't need a study for proof; it only needs a tiny bit of thought. We are the most armed (guns) society probably in the history of the world and yet we have shooting upon shootings, do you need a study to see that? If I am going out in a blaze of glory (in the killer's mind) how rational am I to start with? Do any of these people consider that someone else may be armed and thus go home and become overnight sane, well meaning citizens? So long as guns are worshiped we will have these situations.
And if everyone were armed would that be a good thing? Ever been in a crowded traffic situation with everyone beeping, impatient and slightly nutty - now imagine them armed!
The study sets out to find something, it finds it, so what, sloppy ideas result in sloppy conclusions.
We do not have many actual shootings. We have over 300 million people and at least 200 million weapons in those peoples hands and yet less than 1000 people a year die due to accidental shootings and around 14000 die due to all other shootings. Go ahead brainiac do the math 15000 dead out of either 200 million or 300 million, your choice. THEN check out how many car acidents we have, and how many people DIE in them.
Check out crime rates and how often firearms are used in ALL crimes.
The numbers are insignificant.
15,000 dead people per year and you think thats insignificant?
Well only 3,000 died in the WTC attacks...we probably should have just given OBL a pass, right?
Your a retard, just admit it and we can move on.
Your a retard, just admit it and we can move on.
Dodge what? The fact you think 15000 deaths a year are reason to remove a Constitutional protection but that 50000 deaths a year are just the price of society?
Tell ya what MENSA reject, when you sponsor that bill to remove the right to private ownership and ability to drive I will listen to your claim that private ownership of weapons, a right we are granted in the Constitution, should be restricted as well.
Remind me again how a RIGHT protected in the Constitution should be restricted, should have waiting periods, should be at the whim of local Sheriffs and you need to be 18 or 21 to enjoy it, but any 16 year old can, with the money, go buy any car they want, no questions ask, no waiting period, no sheriffs permission slip.
Further remind me how a felon or a mentally impaired person can go buy a car anytime they want but those same people are denied the right to buy or own firearms, a gain a right protected by the Constitution. Remind how now a wife beater can freely buy own and operate any car he can afford, but if you ever were charged with a family disturbance of any kind your right to firearms is removed and if convicted permanently removed.
G ahead Mensa boy answer those questions.
It's pretty bloody difficult to kill someone with a car, although lots of people do it, with the help of spectacular negligence. But it's bloody easy to kill someone with a firearm. The analogy is flawed.
Now, on numbers. We humans are pretty good at putting things in perspective. 3000 killed in a series of closely linked incidents which occur on the same day isn't the same thing as one or two a day over a year.
There should piss off everyone in this thread.
