Making Education Great Again...

[Unkotare]

Trump and others have not indicated when these past great periods took place. When did America's golden education occur; when did America's golden years of history take place? If we want to replicate these great periods why are these periods of greatness not identified? The premise seems to rely on citizens creating their own periods of greatness, real or imagined?

Let's cut the tap dancing.....are you claiming that the state of education in America has not declined?


Speak up.

The students of 2017 are better suited to face the challenges of today's society than kids from 1950 were

What makes you think so?

A student today has more information available in his pocket than a 1950s student had in a whole library

That wasn't the question.

 

[rightwinger]

Education has evolved, it has not declined

Remember the last time you posted something that was true?

Me neither.

Lets compare today's High School students to say....someone with a masters degree from Columbia University twenty years ago

Today's students must engage in original thought, must clearly define their ideas, must logically define their thought process

Someone who graduated Columbia University twenty years ago only needed to cut and paste the work of others without offering original thoughts or conclusions

Today's student is obviously superior

 

[rightwinger]

Trump and others have not indicated when these past great periods took place. When did America's golden education occur; when did America's golden years of history take place? If we want to replicate these great periods why are these periods of greatness not identified? The premise seems to rely on citizens creating their own periods of greatness, real or imagined?

Let's cut the tap dancing.....are you claiming that the state of education in America has not declined?


Speak up.

The students of 2017 are better suited to face the challenges of today's society than kids from 1950 were

What makes you think so?

A student today has more information available in his pocket than a 1950s student had in a whole library

That wasn't the question.

Wrong

 

[Unkotare]

Let's cut the tap dancing.....are you claiming that the state of education in America has not declined?


Speak up.

The students of 2017 are better suited to face the challenges of today's society than kids from 1950 were

What makes you think so?

A student today has more information available in his pocket than a 1950s student had in a whole library

That wasn't the question.

Wrong

Have fun running away.

 

[rightwinger]

Education has evolved, it has not declined

I learned how to use a slide rule in High School...I was quite proud of myself

Todays students can do advanced programming

 

[rightwinger]

The students of 2017 are better suited to face the challenges of today's society than kids from 1950 were

What makes you think so?

A student today has more information available in his pocket than a 1950s student had in a whole library

That wasn't the question.

Wrong

Have fun running away.

Wrong again

 

[PoliticalChic]

Trump and others have not indicated when these past great periods took place. When did America's golden education occur; when did America's golden years of history take place? If we want to replicate these great periods why are these periods of greatness not identified? The premise seems to rely on citizens creating their own periods of greatness, real or imagined?

Let's cut the tap dancing.....are you claiming that the state of education in America has not declined?


Speak up.

Declined, compared to when?

So sorry I scared you off by asking you to answer a question.

Not the first time, huh?


The conclusion is that the correct answer....which I will provide....indicts the political perspective to which you subscribe.

Of course it's declined....and the decline coincides with the ascendancy of Liberal control of the schools.


This, from 'Education Week'...

"What this story comes down to is that the United States, having led the world in educational attainment for more than a century, thereby enabling it to produce the world's best-educated workforce, has, since the 1970s, made no gains at all in either attainment or quality, while close to 30 other countries, some of them abjectly poor in the 1970s, have managed to outperform us on both quality and quantity of education, many by a country mile.

Even more damning, we appear to have lowered our standards for our college students to the standards we used to demand of our high school students and, at the same time, to have more or less destroyed what was once a first-class vocational and technical education system.

The very high quality of our best public schools and independent schools, of a handful of colleges with strong liberal arts curricula, of a few leading community colleges, and of graduate education in our leading research universities generally has masked the collapse of standards in the great mass of institutions serving our students at all levels."
Why Have American Education Standards Collapsed?




Under Liberal control, the enemy within, education has become merely a suggestion.


This may illustrate the situation:

"The California Federation of Teachers (CFT) passed a resolution at its most recent convention claiming that “the continued unjust incarceration of Mumia Abu-Jamal represents a threat to the civil rights of all people.” Thirty years ago, Abu-Jamal took away Philadelphia policeman Daniel Faulkner’s foremost civil right: his life. How obtuse of the CFT to disregard “the threat to the civil rights of all people” represented by someone capable of gunning down a man tasked with protecting the public.

The pantheon of leftist saints includes the Haymarket Square bombers, responsible for the deaths of eight Chicago cops, Joe Hill, murderer of former police officer John Morrison in Salt Lake City, Huey Newton, murderer of Oakland policeman John Frey, and Leonard Peltier, murderer of FBI agents Jack Coler and Ronald Williams. Notice a pattern?"
Teachers' Mumia Abu-Jamal Resolution Out of Sync Morally and Historically | Human Events

 

[PoliticalChic]

Trump and others have not indicated when these past great periods took place. When did America's golden education occur; when did America's golden years of history take place? If we want to replicate these great periods why are these periods of greatness not identified? The premise seems to rely on citizens creating their own periods of greatness, real or imagined?

Let's cut the tap dancing.....are you claiming that the state of education in America has not declined?


Speak up.

Declined, compared to when?

So sorry I scared you off by asking you to answer a question.

Not the first time, huh?


The conclusion is that the correct answer....which I will provide....indicts the political perspective to which you subscribe.

Of course it's declined....and the decline coincides with the ascendancy of Liberal control of the schools.


This, from 'Education Week'...

"What this story comes down to is that the United States, having led the world in educational attainment for more than a century, thereby enabling it to produce the world's best-educated workforce, has, since the 1970s, made no gains at all in either attainment or quality, while close to 30 other countries, some of them abjectly poor in the 1970s, have managed to outperform us on both quality and quantity of education, many by a country mile.

Even more damning, we appear to have lowered our standards for our college students to the standards we used to demand of our high school students and, at the same time, to have more or less destroyed what was once a first-class vocational and technical education system.

The very high quality of our best public schools and independent schools, of a handful of colleges with strong liberal arts curricula, of a few leading community colleges, and of graduate education in our leading research universities generally has masked the collapse of standards in the great mass of institutions serving our students at all levels."
Why Have American Education Standards Collapsed?




Under Liberal control, the enemy within, education has become merely a suggestion.


This may illustrate the situation:

"The California Federation of Teachers (CFT) passed a resolution at its most recent convention claiming that “the continued unjust incarceration of Mumia Abu-Jamal represents a threat to the civil rights of all people.” Thirty years ago, Abu-Jamal took away Philadelphia policeman Daniel Faulkner’s foremost civil right: his life. How obtuse of the CFT to disregard “the threat to the civil rights of all people” represented by someone capable of gunning down a man tasked with protecting the public.

The pantheon of leftist saints includes the Haymarket Square bombers, responsible for the deaths of eight Chicago cops, Joe Hill, murderer of former police officer John Morrison in Salt Lake City, Huey Newton, murderer of Oakland policeman John Frey, and Leonard Peltier, murderer of FBI agents Jack Coler and Ronald Williams. Notice a pattern?"
Teachers' Mumia Abu-Jamal Resolution Out of Sync Morally and Historically | Human Events

The imbecile who attached the 'funny' emoticon to the above post is a lying low-life....but, worse....he sees the destruction of our once great education system as worth no more than a shrug.


Just as he shrugged at the slaughter of 100 million men, women and children by his predecessors...

When I pointed out that his antecedents, the communists, slaughtered 100 million men, women and children.....he sneered at the deaths this way:

"Sure it wasn't 100 billion?"
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FDR Admiration Society



This is the sort of scum that supported Hussein and Bill's wife.

 

[xotoxi]

It seems like this whole thread is attempting to compare American students to Chinese students with regards to math scores.

Why?

 

[Unkotare]

It seems like this whole thread is attempting to compare American students to Chinese students with regards to math scores.

Why?

Why not?

 

[xotoxi]

Even more damning, we appear to have lowered our standards for our college students to the standards we used to demand of our high school students and, at the same time, to have more or less destroyed what was once a first-class vocational and technical education system.

I personally have not noticed this with my kids public elementary education. I think they are learning math and reading/writing at a higher level than I was at the same grade. However, one problem that I noted (and it made K-3 very uninteresting for them) is that they learn no science or social studies/history until 4th grade (or at least very little).

The science in early elementary school was like: "Look at this rock. Write down your observations. Make a drawing of the rock." And then they would go back to math.

 

[xotoxi]

It seems like this whole thread is attempting to compare American students to Chinese students with regards to math scores.

Why?

Why not?

Because.

 

[Unkotare]

It seems like this whole thread is attempting to compare American students to Chinese students with regards to math scores.

Why?

Why not?

Because.

Because why?

 

[rightwinger]

Trump and others have not indicated when these past great periods took place. When did America's golden education occur; when did America's golden years of history take place? If we want to replicate these great periods why are these periods of greatness not identified? The premise seems to rely on citizens creating their own periods of greatness, real or imagined?

Let's cut the tap dancing.....are you claiming that the state of education in America has not declined?


Speak up.

Declined, compared to when?

So sorry I scared you off by asking you to answer a question.

Not the first time, huh?


The conclusion is that the correct answer....which I will provide....indicts the political perspective to which you subscribe.

Of course it's declined....and the decline coincides with the ascendancy of Liberal control of the schools.


This, from 'Education Week'...

"What this story comes down to is that the United States, having led the world in educational attainment for more than a century, thereby enabling it to produce the world's best-educated workforce, has, since the 1970s, made no gains at all in either attainment or quality, while close to 30 other countries, some of them abjectly poor in the 1970s, have managed to outperform us on both quality and quantity of education, many by a country mile.

Even more damning, we appear to have lowered our standards for our college students to the standards we used to demand of our high school students and, at the same time, to have more or less destroyed what was once a first-class vocational and technical education system.

The very high quality of our best public schools and independent schools, of a handful of colleges with strong liberal arts curricula, of a few leading community colleges, and of graduate education in our leading research universities generally has masked the collapse of standards in the great mass of institutions serving our students at all levels."
Why Have American Education Standards Collapsed?




Under Liberal control, the enemy within, education has become merely a suggestion.


This may illustrate the situation:

"The California Federation of Teachers (CFT) passed a resolution at its most recent convention claiming that “the continued unjust incarceration of Mumia Abu-Jamal represents a threat to the civil rights of all people.” Thirty years ago, Abu-Jamal took away Philadelphia policeman Daniel Faulkner’s foremost civil right: his life. How obtuse of the CFT to disregard “the threat to the civil rights of all people” represented by someone capable of gunning down a man tasked with protecting the public.

The pantheon of leftist saints includes the Haymarket Square bombers, responsible for the deaths of eight Chicago cops, Joe Hill, murderer of former police officer John Morrison in Salt Lake City, Huey Newton, murderer of Oakland policeman John Frey, and Leonard Peltier, murderer of FBI agents Jack Coler and Ronald Williams. Notice a pattern?"
Teachers' Mumia Abu-Jamal Resolution Out of Sync Morally and Historically | Human Events

The imbecile who attached the 'funny' emoticon to the above post is a lying low-life....but, worse....he sees the destruction of our once great education system as worth no more than a shrug.


Just as he shrugged at the slaughter of 100 million men, women and children by his predecessors...

When I pointed out that his antecedents, the communists, slaughtered 100 million men, women and children.....he sneered at the deaths this way:

"Sure it wasn't 100 billion?"
FDR Admiration Society
FDR Admiration Society



This is the sort of scum that supported Hussein and Bill's wife.

Sad how a once prestigious Columbia diploma has denigrated to no more than a certificate from Trump University

Wouldn't you agree?

 

[xotoxi]

It seems like this whole thread is attempting to compare American students to Chinese students with regards to math scores.

Why?

Why not?

Because.

Because why?

I think that our student are more well-rounded than Chinese math automatrons that can spout out arithmetic facts and otherwise know nothing.

 

[Unkotare]

It seems like this whole thread is attempting to compare American students to Chinese students with regards to math scores.

Why?

Why not?

Because.

Because why?

I think that our student are more well-rounded than Chinese math automatrons that can spout out arithmetic facts and otherwise know nothing.

What do you base this ignorant statement on?

 

[longknife]

The only way to "make education great again" is to insure that 100% of teachers are actually qualified to teach the classes they are assigned to.

How many teachers in YOUR school district are qualified?

The educated need to know more about the difference between "insure" and "ensure"

Typo. I know the difference.

 

[longknife]

Education has evolved, it has not declined

Remember the last time you posted something that was true?

Me neither.

Lets compare today's High School students to say....someone with a masters degree from Columbia University twenty years ago

Today's students must engage in original thought, must clearly define their ideas, must logically define their thought process

Someone who graduated Columbia University twenty years ago only needed to cut and paste the work of others without offering original thoughts or conclusions

Today's student is obviously superior

And a huge number of youth with HS diplomas can't read at the 5th grade level and their math skills are even worse.

 

[Unkotare]

It seems like this whole thread is attempting to compare American students to Chinese students with regards to math scores.

Why?

Why not?

Because.

Because why?

I think that our student are more well-rounded than Chinese math automatrons that can spout out arithmetic facts and otherwise know nothing.

What do you base this ignorant statement on?

No answer, of course.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Education has evolved, it has not declined

Remember the last time you posted something that was true?

Me neither.

Lets compare today's High School students to say....someone with a masters degree from Columbia University twenty years ago

Today's students must engage in original thought, must clearly define their ideas, must logically define their thought process

Someone who graduated Columbia University twenty years ago only needed to cut and paste the work of others without offering original thoughts or conclusions

Today's student is obviously superior

And a huge number of youth with HS diplomas can't read at the 5th grade level and their math skills are even worse.

But....they have learned how to vote.....