Make 25% Standard Tip Rate....

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    When is a tip not a tip? VERY good question. It would seem that waiters in San Francisco want a raise. They are pushing for a 25% mandatory tip to be placed on your restaurant bill. It will no longer be a reward for good service... but a given, an automatic gratuity.

    Understand, they already make $9.92/hour as minimum wage. Restaurants are tacking on a health care surcharge at about 2% of the bill. As it stands... waiters only have to report 15% to the IRS, even if they make more then that.

    Think about that. One table, one check of $50, they will make $12.50 in a tip. Are they wroth $22.42/hour?

    Now increase the number of tables to 4. Is a waiter worth $59.92 per hour?





    Would you pay a mandatory 25% tip in a restaurant?





    San Francisco Restaurant Workers Want To Make 25% Standard Tip Rate « CBS San Francisco

    General Services Agency : Minimum Wage Ordinance (MWO)
    In San Francisco, Health Care Shows Up on Restaurant Bills - Health Blog - WSJ
     
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    A lot os upscale restaurants charge the tip upfront. but you get better service.
     
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    I frequent quite a few up scale restaurants in SF... and have never been charged a set gratuity on a table less then 8. And even then its only 18% At up scale restaurants... i EXPECT a better level of service. However most waitstaff in this city are not worth a 5% tip as far as i am concerned.

    A tip is something you give for good service rendered. A tip is voluntary.
     
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    ^^ This. If it were made mandatory I'd never eat out again. We usually tip 15% for good service, more if better than average and less for crappy service. We've never left nothing but have left chump change when treated like chumps.
     
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    Yes 15% generally when its charged upfront. I generally tip 20% when the level of service is good. This is a service industry. As such, the customer can only determine level of satisfaction. I always thought the idea was to WORK for the tip!

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    I ate out once when I was in SF. It was a placxe on the water but that is about all i remember. I think it was a seafood place...I had a lot of drinks.
     
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    For good service we leave at a minimum 25% .... We are known for leaving 50%+ That is becasue we want to...and reward good service. We never leave nothing... for bad service we leave $5. ... and that is them making $15/hour...of which they are NOT worth.
     
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    If I lived there, I would never eat out again, at least in town.

    If I travel there, I will not eat out.
     
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    yeah but when you have pretentious clientele who is going to squabble over a few bucks.
     
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    "Would you pay a mandatory 25% tip in a restaurant?"

    NO!!!!!!! I would not pay a mandated gratuity. I will tip my 15% for fair service and 20% for good service. I expect a 15% added gratuity for party's 8 and over, because this takes up a lot of time and space and often the one server is left little. Cheapskates.

    I have found that servers give better service when they don't know how much they will be receiving. If they know in advance, many will just know that the big bucks will be forthcoming and their service could become lax. Free money makes one work less, not more. It becomes an entitlement and we have seen how THAT negates incentive and puts ppl to work....LMAO***
     
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