Los Angeles Cross Removal

Discussion in 'Religion and Ethics' started by brneyedgrl80, Jun 8, 2004.

  1. brneyedgrl80
    Offline

    brneyedgrl80 Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2004
    Messages:
    558
    Thanks Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Phoenix-it's-dry-heat-Arizona
    Ratings:
    +3
    I know many of you do not agree with this decision. I was watching Bill O'Reilley *spelling* and they happened to be discussing this issue. Here is a link where you can support keeping the cross.

    http://www.thomasmore.org/news.html?NewsID=217
     
  2. proud_savagette
    Online

    proud_savagette Guest

    Ratings:
    +0
    thanks, much appreciated. that decision made me so furious.
     
  3. brneyedgrl80
    Offline

    brneyedgrl80 Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2004
    Messages:
    558
    Thanks Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Phoenix-it's-dry-heat-Arizona
    Ratings:
    +3
    Ya, I don't really agree with it either more from a historical stand point on my part. That's why I posted this link, for anyone that's interested.
     
  4. acludem
    Offline

    acludem VIP Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2003
    Messages:
    1,500
    Thanks Received:
    49
    Trophy Points:
    71
    Location:
    Missouri
    Ratings:
    +69
    I'm an ACLU member, but on this particular occassion, I differ with the southern California branch. Los Angeles, as many other California cities, was originally a Spanish Catholic mission. The cross does symbolize that history. However, I also think this issue is being blown out of proportion by people on the right.

    acludem
     
  5. proud_savagette
    Online

    proud_savagette Guest

    Ratings:
    +0
    would you expand on that?
     
  6. brneyedgrl80
    Offline

    brneyedgrl80 Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2004
    Messages:
    558
    Thanks Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Phoenix-it's-dry-heat-Arizona
    Ratings:
    +3
    I'm an ACLU member as well and I don't agree with this. The only thing I find funny about the situation was Bill O'Reilley saying that the ACLU was trying to hold Christians down. The cross in this instance symbolizes the Spaniards and their missions who happened to practice Catholicism. Granted for most people, they consider Catholicism a form of Christianity (as do Catholics), but there are Christians out there who believe otherwise.
     
  7. proud_savagette
    Online

    proud_savagette Guest

    Ratings:
    +0
    be that as it may, it is still a symbol of Christianity, as it symbolizes belief in Christ and that He died on the cross. Therefore, the fact that it is to be taken down does upset all Christians.
     
  8. Annie
    Offline

    Annie Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2003
    Messages:
    50,847
    Thanks Received:
    4,644
    Trophy Points:
    1,790
    Ratings:
    +4,770
    I think it also upset some atheists, as it was an obvious historical symbol for the city.
     
  9. proud_savagette
    Online

    proud_savagette Guest

    Ratings:
    +0
    point taken
     
  10. brneyedgrl80
    Offline

    brneyedgrl80 Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2004
    Messages:
    558
    Thanks Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Phoenix-it's-dry-heat-Arizona
    Ratings:
    +3
    No, I understand where you are coming from savagette. I just think it's funny that nobody on the Bill O'Reilley show never mentioned Catholicism and what Catholics felt. That's all. Like I said, Catholicism is a form of Christianity so the removal of the cross would definitely offend Christians as it is a Christian symbol.

    Kathianne, I'm one of the atheists that doesn't approve of this. :D

    On a side note, savagette, I was wondering something. Is your name in any way tied to Michael Savage? Just wondering. ;)
     

Share This Page