Looks like Baghdad imploding

[Crystalclear]

You guys wanted the people there to rule, and once again they are trying. Be careful what you wish for...

ISIS is not "the people".

 

[bianco]

You guys wanted the people there to rule, and once again they are trying. Be careful what you wish for...

ISIS is not "the people".

Seems it will be soon.

 

[Moonglow]

Oblama is back at the White House, he called off the vacation..Now rwer's will have to fall back on other bitches and moans...

 

[NotfooledbyW]

The mission was removing Saddam. Democrats stated that he was a threat and had to be removed.

Saddam was a threat up to December 2002 because the UN inspectors were not allowed in.

Saddam ceased to be a threat when the inspectors returned. Bush failed to recognize that reality and decided on invasion instead of peaceful disarmament. A tragic blunder Bush made - not the Dems.

Team Obama burn people alive.

Documenting tinydancer's obsessions.

 

[irosie91]

You guys wanted the people there to rule, and once again they are trying. Be careful what you wish for...

ISIS is not "the people".

Isis is hundreds of millions of people----in the world----
not hundreds of millions in Iraq------but IN THE WORLD----
hundreds of millions is more than enough-----There were
not hundreds of millions of Nazis in the 1930s and 40s----not even tens of millions. Do not underestimate ISIS-----

 

[NotfooledbyW]

CNN reporting Maliki sending troops to green zone to protect his job. Someone tell the president...

Tell the President what. Maliki doesn't push Obama around like he did to Bush for years. Guess CNN misled you into one more knee jerk armchair general rant.

 

[percysunshine]

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How is that 'Peace Prize' working out?

Gotta love those Oslovians.

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[deltex1]

CNN reporting Maliki sending troops to green zone to protect his job. Someone tell the president...

Tell the President what. Maliki doesn't push Obama around like he did to Bush for years. Guess CNN misled you into one more knee jerk armchair general rant.

Maliki is gone Foo...he took Obabble's manhood with him.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

CNN reporting Maliki sending troops to green zone to protect his job. Someone tell the president...he's at Mcd's in Massatwoshits.

This is how an Iraqi heart surgeon described Iraq's medical infrastructure situation in 2009. That is what Bush left behind in Iraq. Did you complain to Bush about the dire straights the Iraqis faced because of Bush's decision to invade and occupy that country - now here are hearing from right wingers that it was all about some old rusty, unusable artillery shells, US and European made, that were abandoned left overs from the Iraq/Iran wars. Did you object to the Bush administration leaving Iraqis in such poor condition after nearly six years of invasion and occupation?

Occupation, invasion, murder, terrorism, intimidation, and threats would not put an end to the aggravated violence because of the worsening oppression of peoples and unjustified wars that do not create freedoms and democracy. All that the occupation built as a political process which it alleges to be legitimate, has proved that it is a failure, for the Government of Iraq is classified as the most failed in the world, and the most financially and administratively corrupt. Thus, I urge you to work on expelling the occupation out of Iraq as soon as possible and to allow the Iraqi people and international will to achieve genuine national reconciliation between the patriotic forces and the components of the mosaic of our people and its factions so that it is an Iraqi solution with regional and international support and so that it is not a forced solution as a result of force, invasion and threats. Dr. Omar Al – Kubaisy Brussels, Belgium. March 18th, 2009.

As for the reality on the ground, CDs will be handed out to you which will, in pictures, reflect and document a little of the suffering of the Iraqi people from the terror of bombardment and bombing, the destruction of infrastructure, violence and terror, the killing which has targeted the people and its doctors, its efficient professionals, and its scientists and academics as well as the forced displacement of people inside and outside Iraq; the suffering of women as well as the widows and the orphans and the spread of crime and sickness and epidemics; the spread of commercialization of bad medicines and addictive drugs; the internally displaced refugee camps; their conditions as well as the condition of the detainees in the prisons of the occupation as well as in those of the imposed authority. However, suffice it for me to state that we are in a country that :
1- 70% of its doctors have emigrated.
2- It has lost more than 5,500 of its scientists and academics, killed, imprisoned, or emigrated.
3- 70% of its hospitals have minimum standard performance, below the required standards in the remnants of what is destroyed, raided, or stolen.
4- 90% of medicines in pharmacies is neither analysed nor is it registered or is bad or corrupt and contaminated; it is brought on to the black market across the borders by ghost companies and a country in which thousands of unlicensed pharmacies and drug depots exist, run by people who are not pharmacists.
5- Its hospitals are used as centers for ethnic and sectarian physical liquidation and terror by the militias.
6- The Ministry of Health is part of a sectarian quota division system that specifies the identity of the minister and the directors general and is controlled by the theocratic political parties as well as the religious and sectarian militias. It is an institution in which financial and administrative corruption prevails and according to the Transparency Committee, more than US Dollars 2 Billion have disappeared as a result of phony ghost contracts and bribery. There is no supervisory or monitoring role to be mentioned by the present parliamentarians who are doctors , but on the contrary, their interference may cause a negative effect on the size and the nature of the financial and administrative corruption.
7- Widespread mental illness and drug addiction and the widespread growth of opium poppy plantations and opium for the first time since occupation.
8- Fixing basic medical records and their exchange with insignificant invoices and lists by the occupation authorities.
9- The spread of epidemics and the loss of credibility of all statistics and the lack of statistics of cholera, Measles, Diphtheria and Whooping Cough, and Toxoplasmosis and a worsening situation of Tuberculosis and HIV Aids.
10- Unsafe imported foods.
11- A rise of incidence in cancer and the nature of the registered cases recently and a rise in cases of congenital malformation as due to the aggravated complications as a result of radioactive pollution and the burning down of the forests and trees. Pollution of rivers, as a result of the collapse of the sewage system, particularly in the Middle and the South caused by the use of Depleted Uranium and White Phosphorous as well as Cluster Bombs, and the prevention by the occupation forces of remedial measures and surveys to discover the polluted locations for sterilization and cleansing.
12- The proliferation of landmines in the sites of the old wars, as well as unexploded ordinance, especially in Basra and in the border areas.
13- loss of cooperation and harmony with the humanitarian and voluntary organizations, such as the Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies and others, as well as financial corruption in the Iraqi Red Crescent Society, and the escape outside Iraq, of its President with US protection.
14- Lack of medicines and supplies and, as well as minimal financial allocations, since they did not exceed 4% of the overall budget allocations in the best of cases, and because of rampant corruption.
15- Lack of safe potable water for more than 70% of the population and the continuing lack of electricity as well as the lack of proper sanitation.
16- The highest rates of infant and newborn mortality in the world.

17- In Iraq after the occupation:
More than five million persons displaced.
More than 4 million below poverty level.
Approximately, 2 million widows.
Five million orphans.
Insufficient food for more than eight million.
More than 400,000 detainees and prisoners.
More than 28% of the population is unemployed.

Dr. Omar Al Kubaisy s speech in the European Parliament 18 March 2009

I, an experienced doctor and cardiac specialist, who is experienced in the treatment of heart disease and who has served in his specialty in The State of Iraq for the past 4 decades, stand in your presence and addresses you. I have lived with and through the rule of several successive governments and political regimes which you know. I haven't any particular party or political fealty and affiliation. My people as well as my students and my colleagues in Iraq bare witness to my service in the medical, health and military and civilian medical services fields, professionally as well as academically. I specialized and trained in European hospitals in England, Italy, Ireland, France and here in Belgium, specializing in heart disease during the critical periods of the long war and the chocking embargo. I transferred the most up to date technical skills and research you had achieved in the cardiac field in order to benefit Iraq's patients as well as its doctors at a time when Iraqis suffered from the scourge of a technical, scientific and economic embargo which lasted for 13 years; I also witnessed the invasion of Iraq and when I also saw with my own two eyes, on the 9th and 10th April, 2003, how the invading tanks invaded my cardiac center and burned, looted and plundered the largest center for cardiac surgery in the center of Baghdad in plain sight of the entire world, for it to be left open for further plunder for many days to come under the invader's auspices.
In this center we used to perform 8 open heart surgeries on Iraqi adults and children, daily. European doctors from England, Switzerland, France, Italy, Spain and Germany volunteered their work there as a humanitarian contribution to the center. I recall a telephone call from a colleague from the South of France who had worked in the past with us in the Center, when Baghdad and the area in which the center is situated was undergoing heavy aerial bombardment, during the invasion, begging me to leave the center with the rest of my colleagues in order to escape because the center was a target, as he seemed to believe from the direct satellite pictures. I remember when tears poured down my cheeks whilst watching the Cardiac Center burn and I was screaming at the commanding officer of the group which supervised the operation from the top of a tank, saying to "me stop your tears", we will build you a greater, larger and more up to date Center.

Following the U.S. invasion in 2003, 78 percent of Iraq’s health professionals in Baghdad alone had fled by 2007. Before the invasion, Iraq had approximately 34,000 physicians; by 2006, 18,000 remained. Those doctors who stayed were forced to work in difficult conditions: More than 80 percent of physicians at Iraq’s emergency hospitals report being assaulted. Many have paid the highest costs: by 2006, 2,000 Iraqi doctors had been killed.
Once renowned for its top-notch health care, Iraq has seen its health system steadily collapse. Already hobbled by sanctions before the invasion, 12 percent of all Iraqi hospitals were destroyed, 7 percent were looted, a third of family planning centers were destroyed and leading public health laboratories in Basra and Baghdad were also destroyed after the fall of Iraq. In the facilities that have survived, 65 percent of the remaining equipment is considered useless. Patients needing advanced care have to leave the country.

A grim prognosis for Syrian and Iraqi hospitals Al Jazeera America

And Deltex got excited to hopefully see Baghdad 'IMPLODE' under Obama. Deltex's 'implosion' did not happen under Obama. Let's talk about Bush's 'implosion' that resulted from one President's deliberate and stupid decision to send ground troops in.

 

[Moonglow]

CNN reporting Maliki sending troops to green zone to protect his job. Someone tell the president...

Tell the President what. Maliki doesn't push Obama around like he did to Bush for years. Guess CNN misled you into one more knee jerk armchair general rant.

Maliki is gone Foo...he took Obabble's manhood with him.

I see you're crying over the loss of such a divine piece of manhood...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

CNN reporting Maliki sending troops to green zone to protect his job. Someone tell the president...

Tell the President what. Maliki doesn't push Obama around like he did to Bush for years. Guess CNN misled you into one more knee jerk armchair general rant.

Obama turned Iraq over to his Jihadist friends in ISIS

 

[NotfooledbyW]

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Obama turned Iraq over to his Jihadist friends in ISIS

Obama was first world leader to bomb IS terrorists in Iraq and Syria, so you don't make sense at all.

And IS terrorists do not control much of Iraq. And where the do it is predominately in Sunni areas.

But if you truly are upset about a world leader turning Iraq over to terrorists you need to rethink what GW Bush did. Sunni terrorists such as al Qaeda had an enemy in control of Baghdad until 2003. Al Qaeda would have been dealt with quite brutally if they tried to terrorize Sunni parts of Iraq as IS terrorists have done this past summer.

What Bush did was put a Shiite run government in place that proved incompetent to hold ground in Sunni areas.

Obama had warned Maliki that he had to recognize Sunni disenchantment with his Shiite government but Maliki would not change.

Maliki is gone and the new Defense Minister in the new government is a Sunni from Mosul and former officer in Saddam's military.

IS wont take over Iraq ever. That is more Obama hater's nuttiness.

 

[jwoodie]

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Obama turned Iraq over to his Jihadist friends in ISIS

Obama was first world leader to bomb IS terrorists in Iraq and Syria, so you don't make sense at all.

And IS terrorists do not control much of Iraq. And where the do it is predominately in Sunni areas.

But if you truly are upset about a world leader turning Iraq over to terrorists you need to rethink what GW Bush did. Sunni terrorists such as al Qaeda had an enemy in control of Baghdad until 2003. Al Qaeda would have been dealt with quite brutally if they tried to terrorize Sunni parts of Iraq as IS terrorists have done this past summer.

What Bush did was put a Shiite run government in place that proved incompetent to hold ground in Sunni areas.

Obama had warned Maliki that he had to recognize Sunni disenchantment with his Shiite government but Maliki would not change.

Maliki is gone and the new Defense Minister in the new government is a Sunni from Mosul and former officer in Saddam's military.

IS wont take over Iraq ever. That is more Obama hater's nuttiness.

If Obama is doing so well, why do you have to keep blaming Bush?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

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Obama turned Iraq over to his Jihadist friends in ISIS

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Obama was first world leader to bomb IS terrorists in Iraq and Syria, so you don't make sense at all. <> And IS terrorists do not control much of Iraq. And where they do it is predominately in Sunni areas. <> But if you truly are upset about a world leader turning Iraq over to terrorists you need to rethink what GW Bush did. Sunni terrorists such as al Qaeda had an enemy in control of Baghdad until 2003. Al Qaeda would have been dealt with quite brutally if they tried to terrorize Sunni parts of Iraq as IS terrorists have done this past summer. <> What Bush did was put a Shiite run government in place that proved incompetent to hold ground in Sunni areas. <> Obama had warned Maliki that he had to recognize Sunni disenchantment with his Shiite government but Maliki would not change. <> Maliki is gone and the new Defense Minister in the new government is a Sunni from Mosul and former officer in Saddam's military. <> IS wont take over Iraq ever. That is more Obama hater's nuttiness.

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If Obama is doing so well, why do you have to keep blaming Bush?

Since when is stating the facts about what happened and the uncontested historical record, 'blaming' somebody. If you dispute anything I've written in post 052, it would be interesting to see what is on your mind if anything is there at all. Your crying about 'blame Bush' in no way refutes what I have presented as an argument for why Obama has been doing the right thing with respect to Iraq and specifically with respect to Maliki. You can't 'blame' Obama for Maliki being PM of Iraq and doing such a terrible job. Maliki gained power under the nose of the Bush White House. I'm not blaming Bush for Maliki's divisive governance over the past seven years. I am pointing out that it was Obama's policy that Iraq would be better off if hey got rid of him in a peaceful and democratic way. And they did.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Looks like Baghdad is NOT imploding in a major setback for the US political right just before the midterm elections. The righties here had so hoped to see Baghdad fall by now to IS terrorists for their selfish political agenda they can't even talk about Iraq anymore at all.

 

[dilloduck]

Looks like Baghdad is NOT imploding in a major setback for the US political right just before the midterm elections. The righties here had so hoped to see Baghdad fall by now to IS terrorists for their selfish political agenda they can't even talk about Iraq anymore at all.

If Baghdad had imploded the media wouldn't report on it anyway.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

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If Baghdad had imploded the media wouldn't report on it anyway.

But you have Fox News and Limbaugh & all the rest of that hate talk radio machine to get the message out that you prayers were answers. I headed on hate talk radio driving home that more aid and comfort is coming the IS terrorists way from hater leaders like Senator Ted Cruz. It seems Senator Cruz has become a propaganda mouthpiece for the IS terrorists now. He has gone public declaring some
recent attacks in the US and Canada as IS terrorists inspired. That gives IS terrorist credit for attacks in North
America. In sure the IS terrorists recruiters are appreciating that propaganda support.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

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Obama turned Iraq over to his Jihadist friends in ISIS

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Obama was first world leader to bomb IS terrorists in Iraq and Syria, so you don't make sense at all. <> And IS terrorists do not control much of Iraq. And where they do it is predominately in Sunni areas. <> But if you truly are upset about a world leader turning Iraq over to terrorists you need to rethink what GW Bush did. Sunni terrorists such as al Qaeda had an enemy in control of Baghdad until 2003. Al Qaeda would have been dealt with quite brutally if they tried to terrorize Sunni parts of Iraq as IS terrorists have done this past summer. <> What Bush did was put a Shiite run government in place that proved incompetent to hold ground in Sunni areas. <> Obama had warned Maliki that he had to recognize Sunni disenchantment with his Shiite government but Maliki would not change. <> Maliki is gone and the new Defense Minister in the new government is a Sunni from Mosul and former officer in Saddam's military. <> IS wont take over Iraq ever. That is more Obama hater's nuttiness.

JW053 10016173 regarding NF 10008755, CF 10000989, NF 9676108, DT 9603587

If Obama is doing so well, why do you have to keep blaming Bush?

Since when is stating the facts about what happened and the uncontested historical record, 'blaming' somebody. If you dispute anything I've written in post 052, it would be interesting to see what is on your mind if anything is there at all. Your crying about 'blame Bush' in no way refutes what I have presented as an argument for why Obama has been doing the right thing with respect to Iraq and specifically with respect to Maliki. You can't 'blame' Obama for Maliki being PM of Iraq and doing such a terrible job. Maliki gained power under the nose of the Bush White House. I'm not blaming Bush for Maliki's divisive governance over the past seven years. I am pointing out that it was Obama's policy that Iraq would be better off if hey got rid of him in a peaceful and democratic way. And they did.

Val Jarrett said she was holding off having her ISIS troops capture Baghdad until after the November Shellacking. She has the 5 commanders Obama released taking full operational command

 

[dilloduck]

I'm sure they appreciated the weapons drop even more.

 

[Roadrunner]

Obama still taking victory laps for Iraq?

Dubya still claiming "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"?

God ANOTHER idiot that thinks Bush put that sign up.

How fuckin' stupid can you be?

Don't answer, I've seen enough already.