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    His words will be downplayed as "part of an illegitimate governement", when in all actuality his words speak volumes. I guess it didn't take them too long to learn the truth about the UN.
     
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    Some very condeming words in this article, addressed to the UN:

    "The UN as an organisation failed to help rescue the Iraqi people from a murderous tyranny of 35 years," he [Hoshyar Zebari, Iraq's foreign minister] said.
    More Zebari: "Settling scores with the United States-led coalition should not be at the cost of helping to bring stability to the Iraqi people. Squabbling over political differences takes a back seat to the daily struggle for security, jobs, basic freedoms and all the rights the UN is chartered to uphold."

    And what did Annan say? Not much more than, 'Let's all just get along now.'
     
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    big red truck!!!!
     
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    Oh, he [Annan] said much more than that (and I'm paraphrasing now):

    - 22 UN people dead is so many and so wrong as to pull their entire representation out of the country (Iraq)

    - there are significant risks to his personnel in the country (Iraq)

    - he has to weigh the risks to the task required of him.

    So, as the secretary of the UN he has to decide what risk is too great for his people, he has to assess with the information at hand said risks and he has to make some pretty hard decisions.

    Sounds to me like he is facing the same thing that Pres. Bush faced when deciding what to do about Iraq. Only Annan, unlike our President, knows that no matter what he decides other people and other countries are going to bear all the burden.

    Please don't get me started on how unfit Annan is to make decisions that affect the world. It's funny, but those that support the guy are so upset that President Bush doesn't have the background needed to lead our country despite being a Yale graduate, a member of the National Guard, owning and running several business and being governor of a large state. Yet those same people accept Annan's competence. What the heck makes him appropriate to tell us what to do??? As far as I'm concerned he is a nothing man from a nothing country as the head of a nothing organization that wouldn't exist if it weren't for the money and might of the US. I have no repsect for the UN nor him.
     
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    oh moi. too much. i guess the UN is only respectable when their causes chime in with US interest? the US whoring of the UN is totally obvious to anyone with an objective perspective. if the UN is so meaningless and to blame for so much, why does it still exist?

    you even went there with bush's resume'! have you ever seen bush's report card? how about the success of his businesses? this guy doesn't know shit from idealism, and he worries more about what's for dinner and memorizing speeches than he ever has been about making (his own) decisions. :laugh: please tell me you weren't being serious.
     
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    Two things :

    First off:

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    Ok spill my friend, tell me exactly w/proof, how GWB failed in business.

    Oh by the way you do realize he is the president of the USA, and there are many people wealthier than he is, how did he beat them all ?
     
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    12 years of UN resolutions against saddams Iraq and what did they yield? nada! saddam and co thumbing their nose at the UN and the rest of the world. well, guess what, he was warned, by his inaction he got his ass kicked. The UN at one time was a powerful collection of countrys to reakon with. now the UN is little more than a highschool debate and its time has pasted. Annan knows this but doesnt know what to do . In other words, he does NOT have the balls to take a stand on anything. you are a funny lil man spillman...you make me laugh:laugh:
     
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    The US whoring of the UN? Forgive me, but in whoring both parties are guilty unless you didn't realize that. I'd be more ashamed if I were the UN at that comment. And, secondly, if the UN didn't use the US so much I bet they'd have NO power at all. Truth is that all their power derives from the US's ability to back it up. Who gives more money and aid and military assistance to those people put on the UN's sh__ list?????

    But, no, I wasn't kidding. I don't believe that the UN has the authority over me. I recognize one law. The law of the country to whom I have pledged my allegience- The United States of America.
     
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    It seems to me that the UN is getting more and more less important. UN = LON? now i know it was way before my time, but what happened to that organization?
     

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