Lindsey Graham: We're Calling in All Officials Who Signed Carter Page FISA Warrant to Testify

/——/ Oh so you’re saying Mueller found conclusive evidence that Trump colluded with Russia and he obstructed Justice? Funny how everyone else missed that.

What?
No. The Russian interference in the campaign, idiot.


OK, one more time: what exactly did the Russians do? where did they do it? which votes were changed because of it? which states, which cities, which precincts? How many votes were affected?

WE KEEP HEARING THAT THE RUSSIANS INTERFERED WITH OUR ELECTION, BUT NOT ONE PERSON ON EITHER SIDE CAN TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID AND HOW IT AFFECTED THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION.
LOL....still willfully blind I see.
Read the report.
/——/ democRATs in Congress read it page by page for 12 hours, and they came up shooting blanks. Bwhahahaha Bwhahahaha

The Democrats in the Congress read it into the permanent record of the United States of America so that Barr and Trump couldn't re-write it later and falsely claim exoneration AGAIN.

There is enough in the Mueller Report to fucking BURY Trump, not to mention the 20 or so offshoot investigations, all those HOM redactions contained in the redacted version. Trump is now stonewalling on his finances which will reveal extensive private ties to Russia, and possibly money laundering and other crimes. He's lost two court cases this week because he has a legal obligation to allow Congressional oversight.

A large part of the reason why Democrats won the House was to provide a better level of Congressional Oversight on the openly illegal behaviour of the Trump Administration. Trump is now refusing to cooperate with Congress on ANYTHING. He refuses to legislate and he refuses to comply with the Consitutionally mandate Congressional oversight requirements. That's not how American governance works.

Despite his lies to the contrary, Trump has NOT been transparent as to his financial ties with foreigners. He has NOT been transparent as to the sources of his income. Trump and has family have, directly or indirectly, accepted large loans from China, Saudi Arabia, and Russian interests to finance their international properties. Trump owns two properties in Scotland. Does this affect his treatment of the British government? These are reasonable lines of enquiry.

Now you have evidence that in the 1980's, when the rich were getting richer, hand over fist, Trump lost $100 million dollars per year on average, over $1 billion in total. That while he was selling a public image of a rich, successful, real estate mogul, he was in fact, being bailed out annually by his father. This is important because, in the 1990's and 2000's, he was at the helm of 6 major business bankruptcies, which his father wasn't around to bail him out of. And now this conman, who has never had a actual successful business venture in his life, is piling debt on the people of the United States by way of the biggest deficits in history, while he and his family are personally benefitting from the tax cuts he signed into law.

Yes, his taxes, and his finances are relevent.
Unfortunately I for you this isn't NAZI Germany.

Imagine how triggered you'd be if Trump asked for the Democrats' personal records.
 
/——/ Oh so you’re saying Mueller found conclusive evidence that Trump colluded with Russia and he obstructed Justice? Funny how everyone else missed that.

What?
No. The Russian interference in the campaign, idiot.


OK, one more time: what exactly did the Russians do? where did they do it? which votes were changed because of it? which states, which cities, which precincts? How many votes were affected?

WE KEEP HEARING THAT THE RUSSIANS INTERFERED WITH OUR ELECTION, BUT NOT ONE PERSON ON EITHER SIDE CAN TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID AND HOW IT AFFECTED THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION.
LOL....still willfully blind I see.
Read the report.
/——/ democRATs in Congress read it page by page for 12 hours, and they came up shooting blanks. Bwhahahaha Bwhahahaha

The Democrats in the Congress read it into the permanent record of the United States of America so that Barr and Trump couldn't re-write it later and falsely claim exoneration AGAIN.

There is enough in the Mueller Report to fucking BURY Trump, not to mention the 20 or so offshoot investigations, all those HOM redactions contained in the redacted version. Trump is now stonewalling on his finances which will reveal extensive private ties to Russia, and possibly money laundering and other crimes. He's lost two court cases this week because he has a legal obligation to allow Congressional oversight.

A large part of the reason why Democrats won the House was to provide a better level of Congressional Oversight on the openly illegal behaviour of the Trump Administration. Trump is now refusing to cooperate with Congress on ANYTHING. He refuses to legislate and he refuses to comply with the Consitutionally mandate Congressional oversight requirements. That's not how American governance works.

Despite his lies to the contrary, Trump has NOT been transparent as to his financial ties with foreigners. He has NOT been transparent as to the sources of his income. Trump and has family have, directly or indirectly, accepted large loans from China, Saudi Arabia, and Russian interests to finance their international properties. Trump owns two properties in Scotland. Does this affect his treatment of the British government? These are reasonable lines of enquiry.

Now you have evidence that in the 1980's, when the rich were getting richer, hand over fist, Trump lost $100 million dollars per year on average, over $1 billion in total. That while he was selling a public image of a rich, successful, real estate mogul, he was in fact, being bailed out annually by his father. This is important because, in the 1990's and 2000's, he was at the helm of 6 major business bankruptcies, which his father wasn't around to bail him out of. And now this conman, who has never had a actual successful business venture in his life, is piling debt on the people of the United States by way of the biggest deficits in history, while he and his family are personally benefitting from the tax cuts he signed into law.

Yes, his taxes, and his finances are relevent.

What is with you leftists that think our business people in this country can have no international dealings with other countries? There is nothing wrong with that unless Joe Biden is your father and you became wealthy by him using his political influence.

If Trump was money laundering, the IRS would have found that years ago. And you don't become a multi-billionaire by running unsuccessful companies. Speaking of which.....

Donald Trump filed four bankruptcies in his career of owning or operating over 500 companies. That's one bankruptcy for every 125 he ran, and those bankruptcies happened during bad economic times when many companies were not doing well.
 
Monitoring Page meant they could monitor Trump or anybody else he came in contact with. This wasn't about Carter Page, it was about trying to associate Trump with Russian collusion. But to turn the question back on you: Why would Hillary Clinton and the DNC pay for this opposition research (yes, that's what it's called) if they only cared about Page?

The FISA warrant for Page was neither applied for nor approved while Page was working for the Trump Campaign. It was applied for after he LEFT the campaign.

Enjoy your snipe hunt. Trump was investigated because of the behaviour of his campaign staff in over 100 contacts with Russians. Investigate all you want, there won't be a single conviction for anything come out of this.

I care less about a conviction than I do to see something like this never happens again; a President weaponizing our federal agencies for political purposes.

Until that big eared creep snuck in and turned Washington DC into Chicago DC, the FBI was always the most honorable group of people with the highest standards.

Nothing was weaponized, dope.

How was any of this used against Trump before the election?

By leaking it's contents to the media before the election. Need the wiki link? Just ask.

The FBI and Obama did that?

Who else knew about it at the time?
 
What?
No. The Russian interference in the campaign, idiot.


OK, one more time: what exactly did the Russians do? where did they do it? which votes were changed because of it? which states, which cities, which precincts? How many votes were affected?

WE KEEP HEARING THAT THE RUSSIANS INTERFERED WITH OUR ELECTION, BUT NOT ONE PERSON ON EITHER SIDE CAN TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID AND HOW IT AFFECTED THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION.
LOL....still willfully blind I see.
Read the report.
/——/ democRATs in Congress read it page by page for 12 hours, and they came up shooting blanks. Bwhahahaha Bwhahahaha

The Democrats in the Congress read it into the permanent record of the United States of America so that Barr and Trump couldn't re-write it later and falsely claim exoneration AGAIN.

There is enough in the Mueller Report to fucking BURY Trump, not to mention the 20 or so offshoot investigations, all those HOM redactions contained in the redacted version. Trump is now stonewalling on his finances which will reveal extensive private ties to Russia, and possibly money laundering and other crimes. He's lost two court cases this week because he has a legal obligation to allow Congressional oversight.

A large part of the reason why Democrats won the House was to provide a better level of Congressional Oversight on the openly illegal behaviour of the Trump Administration. Trump is now refusing to cooperate with Congress on ANYTHING. He refuses to legislate and he refuses to comply with the Consitutionally mandate Congressional oversight requirements. That's not how American governance works.

Despite his lies to the contrary, Trump has NOT been transparent as to his financial ties with foreigners. He has NOT been transparent as to the sources of his income. Trump and has family have, directly or indirectly, accepted large loans from China, Saudi Arabia, and Russian interests to finance their international properties. Trump owns two properties in Scotland. Does this affect his treatment of the British government? These are reasonable lines of enquiry.

Now you have evidence that in the 1980's, when the rich were getting richer, hand over fist, Trump lost $100 million dollars per year on average, over $1 billion in total. That while he was selling a public image of a rich, successful, real estate mogul, he was in fact, being bailed out annually by his father. This is important because, in the 1990's and 2000's, he was at the helm of 6 major business bankruptcies, which his father wasn't around to bail him out of. And now this conman, who has never had a actual successful business venture in his life, is piling debt on the people of the United States by way of the biggest deficits in history, while he and his family are personally benefitting from the tax cuts he signed into law.

Yes, his taxes, and his finances are relevent.

What is with you leftists that think our business people in this country can have no international dealings with other countries? There is nothing wrong with that unless Joe Biden is your father and you became wealthy by him using his political influence.

If Trump was money laundering, the IRS would have found that years ago. And you don't become a multi-billionaire by running unsuccessful companies. Speaking of which.....

Donald Trump filed four bankruptcies in his career of owning or operating over 500 companies. That's one bankruptcy for every 125 he ran, and those bankruptcies happened during bad economic times when many companies were not doing well.

No other President has been an international businessman owning foreign property or being financed by foreign banks in the history of the Republic. Ethics laws requiring his personal assets to either be sold or placed in a "blind trust" have been trampled by this President. He is both involved and active in his businesses while being President of the United States.

Furthermore, his corporation continues to develop properties in Indonesia and India, as well as owning resorts in Scotland, Ireland, and two in Dubai. Shortly after his election, the Chinese government loaned the Indonesia project $500 million. His hotels in Chicago and New York, continue to lose money, and all of his American golf courses are doing poorly except the three east coast clubs where he spents his weekends, and has doubled initiation fees, all while billing the American public for rooms, meals and golf carts for the Secret Service and staffers who follow him.

Yeah, his finances are MORE than relevant.
 
OK, one more time: what exactly did the Russians do? where did they do it? which votes were changed because of it? which states, which cities, which precincts? How many votes were affected?

WE KEEP HEARING THAT THE RUSSIANS INTERFERED WITH OUR ELECTION, BUT NOT ONE PERSON ON EITHER SIDE CAN TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID AND HOW IT AFFECTED THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION.
LOL....still willfully blind I see.
Read the report.
/——/ democRATs in Congress read it page by page for 12 hours, and they came up shooting blanks. Bwhahahaha Bwhahahaha

The Democrats in the Congress read it into the permanent record of the United States of America so that Barr and Trump couldn't re-write it later and falsely claim exoneration AGAIN.

There is enough in the Mueller Report to fucking BURY Trump, not to mention the 20 or so offshoot investigations, all those HOM redactions contained in the redacted version. Trump is now stonewalling on his finances which will reveal extensive private ties to Russia, and possibly money laundering and other crimes. He's lost two court cases this week because he has a legal obligation to allow Congressional oversight.

A large part of the reason why Democrats won the House was to provide a better level of Congressional Oversight on the openly illegal behaviour of the Trump Administration. Trump is now refusing to cooperate with Congress on ANYTHING. He refuses to legislate and he refuses to comply with the Consitutionally mandate Congressional oversight requirements. That's not how American governance works.

Despite his lies to the contrary, Trump has NOT been transparent as to his financial ties with foreigners. He has NOT been transparent as to the sources of his income. Trump and has family have, directly or indirectly, accepted large loans from China, Saudi Arabia, and Russian interests to finance their international properties. Trump owns two properties in Scotland. Does this affect his treatment of the British government? These are reasonable lines of enquiry.

Now you have evidence that in the 1980's, when the rich were getting richer, hand over fist, Trump lost $100 million dollars per year on average, over $1 billion in total. That while he was selling a public image of a rich, successful, real estate mogul, he was in fact, being bailed out annually by his father. This is important because, in the 1990's and 2000's, he was at the helm of 6 major business bankruptcies, which his father wasn't around to bail him out of. And now this conman, who has never had a actual successful business venture in his life, is piling debt on the people of the United States by way of the biggest deficits in history, while he and his family are personally benefitting from the tax cuts he signed into law.

Yes, his taxes, and his finances are relevent.

What is with you leftists that think our business people in this country can have no international dealings with other countries? There is nothing wrong with that unless Joe Biden is your father and you became wealthy by him using his political influence.

If Trump was money laundering, the IRS would have found that years ago. And you don't become a multi-billionaire by running unsuccessful companies. Speaking of which.....

Donald Trump filed four bankruptcies in his career of owning or operating over 500 companies. That's one bankruptcy for every 125 he ran, and those bankruptcies happened during bad economic times when many companies were not doing well.

No other President has been an international businessman owning foreign property or being financed by foreign banks in the history of the Republic. Ethics laws requiring his personal assets to either be sold or placed in a "blind trust" have been trampled by this President. He is both involved and active in his businesses while being President of the United States.

Furthermore, his corporation continues to develop properties in Indonesia and India, as well as owning resorts in Scotland, Ireland, and two in Dubai. Shortly after his election, the Chinese government loaned the Indonesia project $500 million. His hotels in Chicago and New York, continue to lose money, and all of his American golf courses are doing poorly except the three east coast clubs where he spents his weekends, and has doubled initiation fees, all while billing the American public for rooms, meals and golf carts for the Secret Service and staffers who follow him.

Yeah, his finances are MORE than relevant.

You can't put real estate in a blind trust. He gave his businesses to his son who has been running them since Trump took office. And yes, his businesses are doing just fine. Trump is too busy to run his past businesses and be a successful President as he's been since taking leadership.

You have no room to criticize our President when his opponent was still selling speeches for 200K to 500K; some of them in foreign countries, and don't tell me it's because Hillary gives great speeches. She couldn't pack a high school basketball court when she was running for President. It was never what she had to say that interested those who paid her.
 
Lindsey Graham wants to ensure that we have rules that you just can’t open up a counterintelligence investigation on a presidential candidate without having a good reason.

So Russian interference in the election in an effort to aid the Trump campaign is not a good reason?


It might be but it never happened. There was, however, a major Russian interference and collusion in an effort to help the hillary campaign.

If Mueller's charter was to investigate Russian influence why didnt he even look at the obvious influence with the hillary campaign?

next question: why would Putin prefer Trump who he could not control over Hillary who he had tons of data to use to blackmail her into doing whatever he wanted?

If Russia did have anything to do with it, they were merely trying to screw up the election no matter who won. If Hillary was the clear underdog in the race, they would have tried to help her.


Agree, and if anything they succeeded in getting us screaming at each other over nothing.

Rush Limbaugh did the same thing when Hillary ran against DumBama. He told people to vote for Hillary. Again, he's far from any Hillary fan, and openly admitted he just wanted to help screw up the election.
Operation Chaos! I remember it well, El Rushbo practically dragged Hillary through the final round of primaries.
 
So Russian interference in the election in an effort to aid the Trump campaign is not a good reason?
/——/ As we learned, that never happened.
/——/ As we learned, that never happened.

As evidenced by the entire first half of the Mueller report. :cuckoo:
/——/ Oh so you’re saying Mueller found conclusive evidence that Trump colluded with Russia and he obstructed Justice? Funny how everyone else missed that.

What?
No. The Russian interference in the campaign, idiot.


OK, one more time: what exactly did the Russians do? where did they do it? which votes were changed because of it? which states, which cities, which precincts? How many votes were affected?

WE KEEP HEARING THAT THE RUSSIANS INTERFERED WITH OUR ELECTION, BUT NOT ONE PERSON ON EITHER SIDE CAN TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID AND HOW IT AFFECTED THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION.
So Russian interference in the election in an effort to aid the Trump campaign is not a good reason?
/——/ As we learned, that never happened.
/——/ As we learned, that never happened.

As evidenced by the entire first half of the Mueller report. :cuckoo:
/——/ Oh so you’re saying Mueller found conclusive evidence that Trump colluded with Russia and he obstructed Justice? Funny how everyone else missed that.

What?
No. The Russian interference in the campaign, idiot.


OK, one more time: what exactly did the Russians do? where did they do it? which votes were changed because of it? which states, which cities, which precincts? How many votes were affected?

WE KEEP HEARING THAT THE RUSSIANS INTERFERED WITH OUR ELECTION, BUT NOT ONE PERSON ON EITHER SIDE CAN TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID AND HOW IT AFFECTED THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION.
So Russian interference in the election in an effort to aid the Trump campaign is not a good reason?
/——/ As we learned, that never happened.
/——/ As we learned, that never happened.

As evidenced by the entire first half of the Mueller report. :cuckoo:
/——/ Oh so you’re saying Mueller found conclusive evidence that Trump colluded with Russia and he obstructed Justice? Funny how everyone else missed that.

What?
No. The Russian interference in the campaign, idiot.


OK, one more time: what exactly did the Russians do? where did they do it? which votes were changed because of it? which states, which cities, which precincts? How many votes were affected?

WE KEEP HEARING THAT THE RUSSIANS INTERFERED WITH OUR ELECTION, BUT NOT ONE PERSON ON EITHER SIDE CAN TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID AND HOW IT AFFECTED THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION.
Barr wants to know exactly how it was "determined" that Putin made the decision to attack our election, because so far it appears we only have that lying son of a bitch Brennan's "word" for it.

When Barr demands this information from the CIA, what do you think the CIA will produce? There is speculation that they will refuse to produce it, which is why Trump has ordered them to fully and completely comply with Barr's requests for evidence production.
 
Lindsey Graham wants to ensure that we have rules that you just can’t open up a counterintelligence investigation on a presidential candidate without having a good reason.

So Russian interference in the election in an effort to aid the Trump campaign is not a good reason?
To Spy on US domestic political opponents? So if the Intelligence Community determines that China is trying to help Biden, you are fine with the Trump Administration obtaining FISA warrants against the Biden campaign and attempts to place spies in the Biden election organization?
 
Lindsey Graham wants to ensure that we have rules that you just can’t open up a counterintelligence investigation on a presidential candidate without having a good reason.

So Russian interference in the election in an effort to aid the Trump campaign is not a good reason?


It might be but it never happened. There was, however, a major Russian interference and collusion in an effort to help the hillary campaign.

If Mueller's charter was to investigate Russian influence why didnt he even look at the obvious influence with the hillary campaign?

next question: why would Putin prefer Trump who he could not control over Hillary who he had tons of data to use to blackmail her into doing whatever he wanted?

I understand that Trump can't be the victim you want him to be without you minimizing the actions of the Russians but damn, dude, it did happen. The Mueller report outlines the timeline of the operation and the Russian players by name.
To suggest otherwise is just dumb.
Would you support the Trump Administration spying on Biden if they decided that they suspected China was trying to influence the election on Biden's behalf?

After months of stonewalling, the FBI dumped 412 pages of documents related to the Carter Page FISA surveillance warrants — the applications, the certifications, and the warrants themselves. Now that we can see it all in black and white it is crystal clear that the Steele dossier, an unverified Clinton-campaign product, was the driving force behind the Trump–Russia investigation.

Based on the dossier, the FBI told the FISA court it believed that Carter Page, who had been identified by the Trump campaign as an adviser, was coordinating with the Russian government in an espionage conspiracy to influence the 2016 election.

This sensational allegation came from Christopher Steele, the former British spy. The FISA court was not told that the Clinton campaign was behind Steele’s work. Nor did the FBI and Justice Department inform the court that Steele’s allegations had never been verified. To the contrary, each FISA application — the original one in October 2016, and the three renewals at 90-day intervals — is labeled “VERIFIED APPLICATION” (bold caps in original). And each one makes this breathtaking representation:

The FBI has reviewed this verified application for accuracy in accordance with its April 5, 2001 procedures, which include sending a copy of the draft to the appropriate field office(s).
In reality, the applications were never verified for accuracy.

Carter Page FISA Applications: FBI Used Steele Dossier | National Review

Based on the Dossier, nothing more than Hillary purchased dirt that appears to mostly fables, The FBI made serious, traitorous allegations against an American citizen and, derivatively, an American presidential campaign. The Court believed the FBI when they lied and said their information was "verified". Had the FBI not lied to the Court, they would have never been given authroization to spy.

Now here is the key part that you seem to get lost on: When you lie to spy, the spying that results is illegal.
 
/——/ As we learned, that never happened.
/——/ As we learned, that never happened.

As evidenced by the entire first half of the Mueller report. :cuckoo:
/——/ Oh so you’re saying Mueller found conclusive evidence that Trump colluded with Russia and he obstructed Justice? Funny how everyone else missed that.

What?
No. The Russian interference in the campaign, idiot.


OK, one more time: what exactly did the Russians do? where did they do it? which votes were changed because of it? which states, which cities, which precincts? How many votes were affected?

WE KEEP HEARING THAT THE RUSSIANS INTERFERED WITH OUR ELECTION, BUT NOT ONE PERSON ON EITHER SIDE CAN TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID AND HOW IT AFFECTED THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION.
/——/ As we learned, that never happened.
/——/ As we learned, that never happened.

As evidenced by the entire first half of the Mueller report. :cuckoo:
/——/ Oh so you’re saying Mueller found conclusive evidence that Trump colluded with Russia and he obstructed Justice? Funny how everyone else missed that.

What?
No. The Russian interference in the campaign, idiot.


OK, one more time: what exactly did the Russians do? where did they do it? which votes were changed because of it? which states, which cities, which precincts? How many votes were affected?

WE KEEP HEARING THAT THE RUSSIANS INTERFERED WITH OUR ELECTION, BUT NOT ONE PERSON ON EITHER SIDE CAN TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID AND HOW IT AFFECTED THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION.
/——/ As we learned, that never happened.
/——/ As we learned, that never happened.

As evidenced by the entire first half of the Mueller report. :cuckoo:
/——/ Oh so you’re saying Mueller found conclusive evidence that Trump colluded with Russia and he obstructed Justice? Funny how everyone else missed that.

What?
No. The Russian interference in the campaign, idiot.


OK, one more time: what exactly did the Russians do? where did they do it? which votes were changed because of it? which states, which cities, which precincts? How many votes were affected?

WE KEEP HEARING THAT THE RUSSIANS INTERFERED WITH OUR ELECTION, BUT NOT ONE PERSON ON EITHER SIDE CAN TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID AND HOW IT AFFECTED THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION.
Barr wants to know exactly how it was "determined" that Putin made the decision to attack our election, because so far it appears we only have that lying son of a bitch Brennan's "word" for it.

When Barr demands this information from the CIA, what do you think the CIA will produce? There is speculation that they will refuse to produce it, which is why Trump has ordered them to fully and completely comply with Barr's requests for evidence production.
why do we need to know that? we just need to know it factually happened in the US.
 
Lindsey Graham wants to ensure that we have rules that you just can’t open up a counterintelligence investigation on a presidential candidate without having a good reason.

So Russian interference in the election in an effort to aid the Trump campaign is not a good reason?
To Spy on US domestic political opponents? So if the Intelligence Community determines that China is trying to help Biden, you are fine with the Trump Administration obtaining FISA warrants against the Biden campaign and attempts to place spies in the Biden election organization?
It was a DOJ operation.

The DOJ also appointed the special counsel.
 
/——/ Oh so you’re saying Mueller found conclusive evidence that Trump colluded with Russia and he obstructed Justice? Funny how everyone else missed that.

What?
No. The Russian interference in the campaign, idiot.


OK, one more time: what exactly did the Russians do? where did they do it? which votes were changed because of it? which states, which cities, which precincts? How many votes were affected?

WE KEEP HEARING THAT THE RUSSIANS INTERFERED WITH OUR ELECTION, BUT NOT ONE PERSON ON EITHER SIDE CAN TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID AND HOW IT AFFECTED THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION.
LOL....still willfully blind I see.
Read the report.
/——/ democRATs in Congress read it page by page for 12 hours, and they came up shooting blanks. Bwhahahaha Bwhahahaha

The Democrats in the Congress read it into the permanent record of the United States of America so that Barr and Trump couldn't re-write it later and falsely claim exoneration AGAIN.

There is enough in the Mueller Report to fucking BURY Trump, not to mention the 20 or so offshoot investigations, all those HOM redactions contained in the redacted version. Trump is now stonewalling on his finances which will reveal extensive private ties to Russia, and possibly money laundering and other crimes. He's lost two court cases this week because he has a legal obligation to allow Congressional oversight.

A large part of the reason why Democrats won the House was to provide a better level of Congressional Oversight on the openly illegal behaviour of the Trump Administration. Trump is now refusing to cooperate with Congress on ANYTHING. He refuses to legislate and he refuses to comply with the Consitutionally mandate Congressional oversight requirements. That's not how American governance works.

Despite his lies to the contrary, Trump has NOT been transparent as to his financial ties with foreigners. He has NOT been transparent as to the sources of his income. Trump and has family have, directly or indirectly, accepted large loans from China, Saudi Arabia, and Russian interests to finance their international properties. Trump owns two properties in Scotland. Does this affect his treatment of the British government? These are reasonable lines of enquiry.

Now you have evidence that in the 1980's, when the rich were getting richer, hand over fist, Trump lost $100 million dollars per year on average, over $1 billion in total. That while he was selling a public image of a rich, successful, real estate mogul, he was in fact, being bailed out annually by his father. This is important because, in the 1990's and 2000's, he was at the helm of 6 major business bankruptcies, which his father wasn't around to bail him out of. And now this conman, who has never had a actual successful business venture in his life, is piling debt on the people of the United States by way of the biggest deficits in history, while he and his family are personally benefitting from the tax cuts he signed into law.

Yes, his taxes, and his finances are relevent.
The longer the rebuttal the more emotion and flailing. Do note the lack of profanity and name calling which is quite rare even if substance is still absent
 
As evidenced by the entire first half of the Mueller report. :cuckoo:
/——/ Oh so you’re saying Mueller found conclusive evidence that Trump colluded with Russia and he obstructed Justice? Funny how everyone else missed that.

What?
No. The Russian interference in the campaign, idiot.


OK, one more time: what exactly did the Russians do? where did they do it? which votes were changed because of it? which states, which cities, which precincts? How many votes were affected?

WE KEEP HEARING THAT THE RUSSIANS INTERFERED WITH OUR ELECTION, BUT NOT ONE PERSON ON EITHER SIDE CAN TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID AND HOW IT AFFECTED THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION.
As evidenced by the entire first half of the Mueller report. :cuckoo:
/——/ Oh so you’re saying Mueller found conclusive evidence that Trump colluded with Russia and he obstructed Justice? Funny how everyone else missed that.

What?
No. The Russian interference in the campaign, idiot.


OK, one more time: what exactly did the Russians do? where did they do it? which votes were changed because of it? which states, which cities, which precincts? How many votes were affected?

WE KEEP HEARING THAT THE RUSSIANS INTERFERED WITH OUR ELECTION, BUT NOT ONE PERSON ON EITHER SIDE CAN TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID AND HOW IT AFFECTED THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION.
As evidenced by the entire first half of the Mueller report. :cuckoo:
/——/ Oh so you’re saying Mueller found conclusive evidence that Trump colluded with Russia and he obstructed Justice? Funny how everyone else missed that.

What?
No. The Russian interference in the campaign, idiot.


OK, one more time: what exactly did the Russians do? where did they do it? which votes were changed because of it? which states, which cities, which precincts? How many votes were affected?

WE KEEP HEARING THAT THE RUSSIANS INTERFERED WITH OUR ELECTION, BUT NOT ONE PERSON ON EITHER SIDE CAN TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID AND HOW IT AFFECTED THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION.
Barr wants to know exactly how it was "determined" that Putin made the decision to attack our election, because so far it appears we only have that lying son of a bitch Brennan's "word" for it.

When Barr demands this information from the CIA, what do you think the CIA will produce? There is speculation that they will refuse to produce it, which is why Trump has ordered them to fully and completely comply with Barr's requests for evidence production.
why do we need to know that? we just need to know it factually happened in the US.
Why are you so concerned about transparency?
 
Lindsey Graham wants to ensure that we have rules that you just can’t open up a counterintelligence investigation on a presidential candidate without having a good reason.

So Russian interference in the election in an effort to aid the Trump campaign is not a good reason?
To Spy on US domestic political opponents? So if the Intelligence Community determines that China is trying to help Biden, you are fine with the Trump Administration obtaining FISA warrants against the Biden campaign and attempts to place spies in the Biden election organization?
It was a DOJ operation.

The DOJ also appointed the special counsel.
So what? If Brennan and Crapper had no involvement then they should have no issue with disclosure.
 
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The FISA warrant for Page was neither applied for nor approved while Page was working for the Trump Campaign. It was applied for after he LEFT the campaign.

Enjoy your snipe hunt. Trump was investigated because of the behaviour of his campaign staff in over 100 contacts with Russians. Investigate all you want, there won't be a single conviction for anything come out of this.

I care less about a conviction than I do to see something like this never happens again; a President weaponizing our federal agencies for political purposes.

Until that big eared creep snuck in and turned Washington DC into Chicago DC, the FBI was always the most honorable group of people with the highest standards.

Nothing was weaponized, dope.

How was any of this used against Trump before the election?

By leaking it's contents to the media before the election. Need the wiki link? Just ask.

The FBI and Obama did that?

Who else knew about it at the time?
LOL....
So you admit you have no idea. Good job.
 
Lindsey Graham wants to ensure that we have rules that you just can’t open up a counterintelligence investigation on a presidential candidate without having a good reason.

So Russian interference in the election in an effort to aid the Trump campaign is not a good reason?
To Spy on US domestic political opponents? So if the Intelligence Community determines that China is trying to help Biden, you are fine with the Trump Administration obtaining FISA warrants against the Biden campaign and attempts to place spies in the Biden election organization?
It was a DOJ operation.

The DOJ also appointed the special counsel.
So what? If Brennan and Crapper had no involvement then they should have no issue with disclosure.
LOL...
It wasTrump's own apointee and his own administration that appointed Mueller and oversaw his investigation, dope.
 
As evidenced by the entire first half of the Mueller report. :cuckoo:
/——/ Oh so you’re saying Mueller found conclusive evidence that Trump colluded with Russia and he obstructed Justice? Funny how everyone else missed that.

What?
No. The Russian interference in the campaign, idiot.


OK, one more time: what exactly did the Russians do? where did they do it? which votes were changed because of it? which states, which cities, which precincts? How many votes were affected?

WE KEEP HEARING THAT THE RUSSIANS INTERFERED WITH OUR ELECTION, BUT NOT ONE PERSON ON EITHER SIDE CAN TELL US EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID AND HOW IT AFFECTED THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION.
LOL....still willfully blind I see.
Read the report.
/——/ democRATs in Congress read it page by page for 12 hours, and they came up shooting blanks. Bwhahahaha Bwhahahaha

What do you believe they thought they were"shooting", fool?
 

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