LIBERALS, You were there with me under Bush where have you gone now?

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    Seriously where have all the liberal minded american's dissapeared to?

    I remember when bush was president you guys were right there with me complaining about the patriot act, bush's atrocious spending without paying for it, and the general lack of responsibility to the people the administration projected.

    Things haven't changed under obama, the government is still doing the same crap you guys were protesting and complaining about with me when bush was president.

    Where are you all now?

    Why are you silent?

    Why do you refuse to speak out anymore?
     
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    Because they are fucking hypocrites obviously.
     
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    I complained about starting a war with Iraq (I supported Afghanistan)
    I complained about the US engaging in torture
    I complained about the horrific response to Katrina
    I complained about the collapsed economy
    I complained about the reduction in environmental protections

    No...its not the same
     
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    What are you talking about? Plenty of Liberals including myself are unhappy about those things the Obama Administration is doing. I, myself, have a good list of things I disagree with this Administration on.
     
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    Then stand up and speak out with those of us who feel the same instead of taking every possible opportunity to denegrate and dismiss our concerns when we bring them up.
     
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    I have already answered this, I disagreed with Afghanistan and much more, but the differences are great as well. Obama is not progressive nor liberal enough for me, but he does represent small change in the right direction.
     
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    Who's we? Sorry Pilgrim, if you are referring to the tea party movement then I can not simply stand up and speak up with them. They are a movement that wasn't around during the Bush Administration, and has a majority of people who have no problem with the Bush Administration as 57% of the people in a recent poll have a favorable view of Bush.

    Until they prove themselves that they are not just a arm of the GOP, I will not even give them credit on the basis of being a legitimate movement that wants real change instead of just a turn to the far right.

    As for Obama, I supported candidate Obama more than President Obama because candidate Obama was more of a actual Liberal. President Obama is left leaning on his best days.
     
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    Spending to save lives is better than spending to kill.
     
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    USA PATRIOT Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    The first act reauthorized all but two of the provisions of Title II that would have expired. Two sections were changed to sunset on December 31, 2009: section 206 — the roving wiretap provision — and section 215, which allowed access to business records under FISA. Section 215 was amended further regardless so as to give greater judicial oversight and review. Such orders were also restricted to be authorized by only the FBI Director, the FBI Deputy Director, or the Executive Assistant Director for National Security, and minimization procedures were specified to limit the dissemination and collection of such information. Section 215 also had a "gag" provision, which was changed to allow the defendant to contact their Attorney.[169] However, the change also meant that the defendant was also made to tell the FBI who they were disclosing the order to — this requirement was removed by the USA PATRIOT Act Additional Reauthorizing Amendments Act.[170]

    The patriot act we now have it not the same law as the one under Bush.


    How many times do you have to be told this?
     
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    Dissent is the highest for of Patri ....SHUT THE FUCK UP OBAMA IS PRESIDENT NOW!
     

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