Liberals: More concerned with income redistribution than advancing humanity.

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by acludem
Unless black and white are two different shades of the same color, I'm afraid that description does not match the differences between socialism and communism.

Actually, they are. It is called the visible light spectrum. Your local library may have a textbook or two you can look into.

Socialism only applies to the idea of government ownership of business and of some limited income redistribution. Communism however mandates absolute government ownership of all business and all property as well as absolute income redistribution.

As illustrated by me, and now you, they are exact replicas except one is on sterroids. -and the exact normal result of the former is the latter.

If we keep going here, you are going to inadvertently lecture America on how you and others like you turn America from a Constitutional republic into a Communist regime utilizing the Communist Manifesto and landing into play our current socialist regieme.

To say that socialism and communism are the same shows two things, first your massive lack of understanding of governmental and economic systems,

Dude, you show me how a socialist OR communist form of government inspires growth, morals, ethics, charity, or personal growth, and I will be all ears. Until you can, look up "compassionate capitalism". That is what we were started out with, and that is the only best viable economic system possible.

and second that you must think a chicken and a turkey are the same things because they're both birds and taste good with mashed potatoes.

Not really, I am a beef guy. Beef has more aminos which are more proper for muscle growth and hormone balance in male humans. Birds may have a smaller fat content in some cases, but they often have fewer true muscle building and endochrine necessities.

Do we need to open another thread for you on that one too?

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by NewGuy
I am a firm believer that you can understand ANYTHING if given a proper model.

In that respect, I am not a shooting star, but one of many grains of sand on a beach.

Thanks for the compliment, though!

Yes people don't believe me when I tell them the heights they can rise to after forsaking ego.

 

[eric]

Windows 2000? Better than the other 2, but is still a poor choice for any real serious activity because it is still a false sense of security and STILL requires frequent reboots due to poor asset management even though it was better than the other 2

Take a good hard look at Z/os, hard to find a better OS !

 

[Bullypulpit]

...The liberals have no more idea of what they are trying to liberate than conservatives have of what they are trying to conserve.

 

[Avatar4321]

Originally posted by Bullypulpit
...The liberals have no more idea of what they are trying to liberate than conservatives have of what they are trying to conserve.

Right. We know exactly what we Conservatives are trying to Conserve.

We are trying to conserve the Constitution.

We are trying to Conserve our Freedom

We are trying to conserve our culture and morality

we are trying to conserve our right to practice our religion.

We are trying to conserve our families.

We are trying to conserve the right to teach our children the values we want to.

Liberals. seek the opposite.

They wish to liberate us from laws, and the Constitution. Create Anarchy.

They wish to liberate us from morality to their "New Morality" which is just another name for the old immorality.

They wish to liberate us from responsibility force others to labor for that which they want.

Bully we know exactly what conservatives and liberals stand for. Which is why we are opposing liberalism and supporting conservatism.

 

[MtnBiker]

Originally posted by Avatar4321

Bully we know exactly what conservatives and liberals stand for. Which is why we are opposing liberalism and supporting conservatism.

Nice

 

[Bullypulpit]

Originally posted by Avatar4321
Right. We know exactly what we Conservatives are trying to Conserve.

We are trying to conserve the Constitution.

We are trying to Conserve our Freedom

We are trying to conserve our culture and morality

we are trying to conserve our right to practice our religion.

We are trying to conserve our families.

We are trying to conserve the right to teach our children the values we want to.

Do the ends justify the means? If you want a better world, you do not achieve it by sacrificing the rights and freedoms of others...Which both liberals and conservatives seem intent on doing.

 

[DKSuddeth]

Originally posted by Avatar4321
Right. We know exactly what we Conservatives are trying to Conserve.

We are trying to conserve the Constitution.

We are trying to Conserve our Freedom

We are trying to conserve our culture and morality

we are trying to conserve our right to practice our religion.

We are trying to conserve our families.

We are trying to conserve the right to teach our children the values we want to.

Liberals. seek the opposite.

They wish to liberate us from laws, and the Constitution. Create Anarchy.

They wish to liberate us from morality to their "New Morality" which is just another name for the old immorality.

They wish to liberate us from responsibility force others to labor for that which they want.

Bully we know exactly what conservatives and liberals stand for. Which is why we are opposing liberalism and supporting conservatism.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by Bullypulpit
Do the ends justify the means? If you want a better world, you do not achieve it by sacrificing the rights and freedoms of others...Which both liberals and conservatives seem intent on doing.

Liberals know nothing of freedom. To them, freedom is evil because free people do not always succeed to the same level, for VARIOUS reasons. For some reason, an arbitrary and unnatural equality has been placed at the apex of the liberal hierarchy of moral good. Instead of encouraging the less successful to emulate the succesful, libs teach them to hate and envy the succesful, giving power to the lying politicians who prey on this negative emotion to institute their power grabbing citadel of totalitarian lies. Individual rights mean nothing to libs. they only care about consolidating irrational mobs into one larger irrational mob, sewing racial and class division for their own power. They sicken me.

 

[insein]

Originally posted by NewGuy
You do realize that is like saying there is a difference between windows Millenium and windows 98, right? You do realize there are operating systems like windows 2000, right?

The reality is 98 and millenium are both crap, full of holes, and waste your time and money, and secure everything falsely through obscurity.

The reality is this is socialism and communism as well. -2 different shades of the same color that inevitably slide into one another. They ALSO waste your time and money and falsely claim to provide security.

Windows 2000? Better than the other 2, but is still a poor choice for any real serious activity because it is still a false sense of security and STILL requires frequent reboots due to poor asset management even though it was better than the other 2. This is identical to your "social democracy".

Is there anything else about socialism and its failings you would like to know?

excellent assesment.

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by Bullypulpit
...The liberals have no more idea of what they are trying to liberate than conservatives have of what they are trying to conserve.

Bullypulpit, having no claim to any opinion due to moral and political relativity training, has no idea how to have a claim on forming an opinion on politics or morals regarding liberation or conservation.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by NewGuy
Bullypulpit, having no claim to any opinion due to moral and political relativity training, has no idea how to have a claim on forming an opinion on politics or morals regarding liberation or conservation.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

 

[Merlin1047]

"Um, you do realize there's a difference between socialism and communism right? You do realize that many countries in Europe are what we call Social democracies, I hope? This means that while they have some government owned businesses, universal health care, and strict environmental laws, they still have a largely capitalist economy and free elections. I find it disconcerting that so many conservatives do not understand that you can't use the words socialism and communism interchangeably. "

Could I take a quick poll here?

I'd like to know if I'm the only one who REALLY enjoys being lectured on the painfully obvious by a wet-behind-the-ears preppie with a superiority complex.

Yes, we know the difference. It just doesn't make any difference.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by Merlin1047
"Um, you do realize there's a difference between socialism and communism right? You do realize that many countries in Europe are what we call Social democracies, I hope? This means that while they have some government owned businesses, universal health care, and strict environmental laws, they still have a largely capitalist economy and free elections. I find it disconcerting that so many conservatives do not understand that you can't use the words socialism and communism interchangeably. "

Could I take a quick poll here?

I'd like to know if I'm the only one who REALLY enjoys being lectured on the painfully obvious by a wet-behind-the-ears preppie with a superiority complex.

Yes, we know the difference. It just doesn't make any difference.

You are not alone. I don't enjoy it either. And you're right, they're both equally idiotic, so it doesn't matter.

 

[acludem]

I'm hardly a "wet behind the ears preppie" actually I'm more of a nerd.

I posted that note because there are some posters here who do not understand that there is a significant difference between socialism and communism. I don't disagree, however, that they're both basically idiotic.

acludem

 

[rtwngAvngr]

It's akin to the difference between shit and shit with peanuts and corn.

 

[NewGuy]

:rotflmao:

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by rtwngAvngr
It's akin to the difference between shit and shit with peanuts and corn.

Speaking of which: "Guts" By Chuck Puluhniuk

http://www.usmessageboard.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5181

 

[Hobbit]

I could have gone my entire life whithout having read that, and I would have been just fine, but noooooo, you just had to.

 

[NewGuy]

Well, I thought it was rather boring. I have read stuff like that a long time ago, but it WAS shocking to see it posted here.

I guess I have been desensitized to just about anything in print.