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As an independent, I can say I'd look pretty carefully at that ticket.The centrist, Biden, together (as VP) the reformer Warren, may make for the kind of ticket that true independents (the crucial voting segment that can make a substantial difference in any elections,) may easily embrace.
The one thing that would make me vote third party is if they cram Identity Politics and race-baiting into the campaign, so I'd literally be making a fairly last-minute decision there.
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I fucking hate identity politics as it is simply destructive to our nation. Why use division when the democrats could win on their ideas of building America and strengthening the middle class?
I often wonder about that.Why use division when the democrats could win on their ideas of building America and strengthening the middle class?
You are allowed to think whatever you like, but that ticket lacks energy, it's simply better than Hillary forcing herself on voters.
Loserterianism sucks so much cock that I bet even a bad Candidate could bet you bastards. You see people want infrastructure, science, r&d, education and the safetynet.
Obama won 360 electorals in 2008 and 330 in 2012. Why because the majority of this country wants those things. We don't want a government that does nothing.
You are allowed to think whatever you like, but that ticket lacks energy, it's simply better than Hillary forcing herself on voters.
Perhaps.......However, we cannot overlook the comparison to a GOP cadre of candidates that, with the exception of a Kasich and maybe even a Christie, the rest are borderline certifiable nut cases.
The sobering lesson for those right wingers among us:
First fact....not opinion....is that the republican party MUST always win Texas and Florida to have any......ANY....chance of winning the presidency through the electoral college votes.
Second fact....again, not opinion....is that in the above 2 crucial states for the GOP, the demographics are against their policies (I. e., the huge growth of minority voters.)
Third fact.......the GOP has managed to alienate virtually ALL minorities.
Because of redistricting, the GOP will hold the House majority for a very long time....but both the Senate and oval office may remain in democrats' hands for at least the next decade.
Dems lost 7 million ish voters from 2008 to 2012, Reps grew by a million. Reps closed a pretty big gap, and that was just 3 years ago. I can only base my position on actual voter numbers, you're is opinion.
Dems lost 7 million ish voters from 2008 to 2012, Reps grew by a million. Reps closed a pretty big gap, and that was just 3 years ago. I can only base my position on actual voter numbers, you're is opinion.
Is it really JUST my opinion that minority voters have considerably grown in number in Texas and Florida?
Is it really JUST my opinion that minority voters have strong antipathy for the GOPers' policies?
True, for the Dems.....having the voters and TURNING OUT the voters to the poll is not an easy challenge.
How is Rand a nutcase? You prolly agree with more of his positions than you do Hillary/Biden/Warren all mushed together.
It is not as much Rand's libertarian platform that is "nutty", but it is Rand himself that is the nut case.
Growing minority numbers has been going forever, so... 2012 proves you wrong. It's fact, provable fact... If you like I will pull the numbers for you but you can easily look up the results on the Presidential election for 2008 and 2012, one party for the first time in history lost voters from one election to the next. Outside of when Ross ran.
As an independent, I can say I'd look pretty carefully at that ticket.The centrist, Biden, together (as VP) the reformer Warren, may make for the kind of ticket that true independents (the crucial voting segment that can make a substantial difference in any elections,) may easily embrace.
The one thing that would make me vote third party is if they cram Identity Politics and race-baiting into the campaign, so I'd literally be making a fairly last-minute decision there.
How is Rand a nutcase? You prolly agree with more of his positions than you do Hillary/Biden/Warren all mushed together.
It is not as much Rand's libertarian platform that is "nutty", but it is Rand himself that is the nut case.
Biden/Warren would fire up Democrats BIG time and would have a REAL chance in the general.
Biden/Warren would fire up Democrats BIG time and would have a REAL chance in the general.
mac, even with Hillary/sharpton I seriously doubt the loserterians would get Florida, Ohio, Virgina and Co. Trump won't get more then 25% of the hispanic vote.
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Also,,,What is so wrong with government investing and helping people? WTF
The Current Liberal Submissions For President Include:
1. A failed ex-Sect of State who has been caught jeopardizing national security and lying while staying 1/2 a step ahead of going to jail, having to rely on Obama and his crooked DOJ in order NOT to go to prison
2. An openly admitted Socialist
..and now Biden, the walking / talking gaffe machine, is giving indications that if he decides to run he will ask Elizabeth Warren, the FAKE 'cigar store' Indian, to be his running mate!
It's amazing how Liberals can't find one single genuine, honest candidate to run.
The Current Liberal Submissions For President Include:
1. A failed ex-Sect of State who has been caught jeopardizing national security and lying while staying 1/2 a step ahead of going to jail, having to rely on Obama and his crooked DOJ in order NOT to go to prison
2. An openly admitted Socialist
..and now Biden, the walking / talking gaffe machine, is giving indications that if he decides to run he will ask Elizabeth Warren, the FAKE 'cigar store' Indian, to be his running mate!
It's amazing how Liberals can't find one single genuine, honest candidate to run.
They do have a genuine, honest candidate to run, Bernie Sanders.
They do have a genuine, honest candidate to run, Bernie Sanders.
