Liberalism is a Mental Disorder

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    I've heard this phrase being uttered on some talk show. It is rather insulting so I won't describe liberalism as that but let me explain my own thoughts of how liberals think.

    A conservative looks at the first amendment as a legal principle that only applies in a court of law while a liberal looks at it as a principle to live by. This is why you hear liberals say things like "I believe in the first amendment" or "this is what I believe <insert political idea in here>". A liberal will apply this 'belief' in their personal life as something to live by and defines them while a conservative sees it as something they they don't have to live by personally and only a legal principle of how the government operates. A conservative doesn't believe that he has to respect the right of someone else to speak freely on a personal level while a liberal does because it is a principle for them to live by so it would be hypocritical for them not to allow someone to speak.

    The question is which one is better? I believe the conservative way of thinking is better because if I am morally obligated to let someone speak then that person has that right in my home, my business, or any other place that a person has control over. I actually lose freedom in this setting because I am obligated to do something that I don't want to and that is to listen to someone that I don't want to listen to.
     
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    this is where you heard it.
     
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    True. I was trying to explain why it seems that way sometimes. When someone believes something on almost religious manor they don't reason things out and become finatical about it. Just look at how creationist attempt to distort reason in order to get the earth was made in six days.

    The best thing I ever heard was that religion without reason is madness.
     
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    A liberal interpretation of the Constitution allows the government power to do things not thought of in 1790.

    A conservative interpretation requires amendments to pass federal laws covering new technologies.

    After all, all powers not given....

    Either way, its a moot point until you get the supreme court to give South Carolina back to the South Carolinans.
     
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    Why is it bad to have as one of your principles that all are free to express themselves, regardless of whether you agree with them?

    You believe its better to be the bigot you describe?
    Wrong. They have no right to violate your home in any way. It is your home, and their presence is not welcome. There is a huge difference between running into your house with a bullhorn and saying what I will to any willing to listen without violating anyone else's privacy or space.

    If you can't see the difference, then you've already proven yourself a retarded piece of fecal waste.
    And? You might not want to walk an extra 200 feet, but I don't want you walking through my house. You might not want to go someplace out of your way for target practice, but we don't want you shooting at cans in the backyard, facing the school across the road.


    You might not always want to listen to the police when they tell you you're too drunk to drive, but we don't want you killing our children.


    Dumbass.
     
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    Gee....even when I try to be nice you can't hold back. I will answer your first question since it had merit.

    Why is it bad to have as one of your principles that all are free to express themselves, regardless of whether you agree with them? Nothing but that right exist whether you believe it is something to live by or not because the only way that right can be taken away from you is by the government itself. When the government has not laws abridging your right to speak then the only way that right can be taken away is when you are in someone's home and they ask you to be silent.
     
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    Powers not given are reserved to the people which gives you more freedom not less because a society of no laws is a society of complete freedom. The more laws you enact the less freedom you have.
     
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    Anger?

    How is laughing at how stupid you are anger?

    And when the hell did I come into power?

    Why was I not informed of this? I've got bills to introduce!
     
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    Remember to wipe the screen after you blither.
     
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    Ok, I'll bite on the level of freedom. Not that I brought it up in this post.

    Yes, the more laws enacted, the less freedom I have to murder, rape, sell this or that narcotic, prostitute myself, drink beer on Sunday, dance, end my life with the aid of a physician, have sex with children, look at porn on public buses, operate pyramid schemes, them type of things.

    Some are bad bad bad, some good, some none of your business if I do it in my own home with other consenting adults.

    I think of Mexico when I think of lawless small government. Is there another place I should be thinking of? Perhaps a superpower I'm forgetting about? MAYBE Australia? New Zealand?

    At the very least I believe in laws and a good number of punishments because folks can't be trusted.
     

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