What is in my heart is a loathing for people that have a warped perception about the outcomes certain actions should yield. You, for example, seem to be under the misguided perception that simply A job, any job, is supposed to be able to support a family. Well no, it isn't ed. If you believe flipping burgers at mcdonalds or working in a customer service call center, like I do, is going to be enough or should be enought to support a family, you're a fucking moron. Certain skills yield a certain income in the labor market. If what you're doing now isn't enough to support the lifestyle you want or have, YOU need to do something different. Society is under no obligation to bend for you just because you don't want to change or take the extra effort to achieve the lifestyle you want.
Whether you admit it to yourself or not you have a disagreement with employers over their purpose in hiring people. You are working under the premise that your employer's purpose in hiring you is to support you and your lifestyle. NEWSFLASH: Your employer probably doesn't agree with you on that one. His purpose in hiring you is to help him produce something. He pays you based on what the market says the skills you are providing him are worth. What you need to live on is irrelevant to him as it should be. You and a hell of a lot of other people need to stop looking at this problem as 'they' not paying you enough, when the problem really is YOU not DOING enough.
I don't know how old you are Bern but I can remember when the working class needed one income to support a family.
I can remember when a clerk working in department store could support him or herself and didn't have to accept food stamps to feed their families
Americans work longer hours for less purchasing power than ever in my lifetime.
The boomer generation is the most educated generation in history. Additionally they work on average more hours than the WWII generation did.
Yet they are, in relative terms, poorer than their fathter's generation.
With the noteable excpetion of the top tier of the scoio economic class, of course.
They are hands down wealthier than ever.
This trend is now going on over 40 years and it NOT sustainable much longer.
This nation's bandade solutionhas been social welfare programs.
You and I both understand that those solutions won't work in the long run.
But continuing the same policies that created that problem is no solution, either.
There is no policy that did this to people.
Nonsense.
That's the biggest problem I have with you lefties.
The very fact that you think I'm a leftie is really your biggest problem, of course.
You simply refuse to consider that people are the source of their own problems.
On a micro scale that is often true. But to deny that macro-economics is a source of the real problem takea leap of faith that I simply do not have.
What you are implying is that human nature changed over the last fourty years. That's preposeterous on it face. It also denies the obvious reality that macroeconomics effects us ALL, but somewhat differently depending on what we're start out with.
It's not a policy issue. It's a failure to adapt issue.
One's ability to adapt changes over time.
A young man just starting out can adapt to changes far better than a family already committed to a career, and already committed to things like a mortgage.
You talk about these good 'ol days and the way things were.
I give you history to help you understand the way life is changing that is true.
Who promised you things would/should stay that way?
Who promised you the skills back in the good 'ol days that provided a certain standard of living would/should have the same value and provide the same standard of living today? That is stupid to believe ed. Yeah people could make a living off of shoeing horses at one time, too.
If you want to debate a straw man of your own device, you don't need me post, do you?
Address what I write, not the imaginary POVs you are attempting to say I have.