Let the Rationing Begin - Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services

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    Scott Gottlieb: What Doctors and Patients Have to Lose Under ObamaCare - WSJ.com
     
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    Like there hasn't been HC rationing going on all along?

    You don't actually believe this mindless political pablum you're spewing do you?

    Of course there will medical triage decisions to be made.

    There always was, and there probably always will be, too.
     
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    This is the part that really bothers me editec.

    Unlike existing Medicare coverage laws, patients won't have the ability to appeal any of the decisions of this new Medicare Commission
     
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    What do you mean with 'let rationing begin'?

    You have had rationed health care for a century.

    Given the new system increases the number of people who have access to health care, ergo it reduces rationing.

    I live in a country with full and complete universal healthcare - dental included. Triage decisions are made every day, of course, but there is no rationing, and no one complains about there being rationing.
     
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    Shall I change the title to "Let the death panels begin"...? :eek:
     
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    I guess missing the part where the Government now gets to do as they please and the patient has NO RIGHTS slipped right by the apologists head.
     
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    Only if you think a patient being turned away from a hospital because they do not have health insurance, or a client being refused coverage for a pre-existing condition does not constitute a death panel.

    Perhaps your best option would be to try and forget some of the propaganda, take a look at a system like Finland, Sweden, France or Germany offer, and ask ourself why their systems produce better outcomes (longer life span, lower infant mortality etc) and at a lower cost per capita than the US system does.

    Until you can address that point, you don't have a case.
     
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    Still ignoring the part here big brother eliminated the ability to appeal and the ability to sue if a problem occurs. The government imposes those restrictions on private insurance and in the same breath removes them from their own services.
     
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    Don't you just love the argument "well it sucks for some people, so let's make it suck for all"?
     
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    So you think people who now have gained access to health insurance are worse off than they were last week?

    I really don't think that is a very credible argument.
     

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