Left wing union irony: Collective greed vs Individual greed

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    Seeing this attempted revolution in Wisconsin, I can't help but note the irony.

    Last fall, the left was in an outrage that President Obama dared continue a tax cut for the rich. They wanted each rich individual to pay just a little bit more into the government, after all, "They can afford it".

    But rich people, of course, pay a lot already, and do not want to pay more to a failed government. Left wingers called this "greed".

    NOW we have left wing unions worldwide in revolt, right now in Wisconsin. The state of WI has a budget crisis. They can't sustain the union deals. Money simply IS NOT THERE.

    But the union members won't budge. They wont accept paying half of what everyone else pay's for their insurance (12% average vs 6% the unions are being asked to pay). They demand this bill not be passed. They refuse to accept being asked to "give a little more".

    The difference is rich people are being told "We are not going to TAKE more from you than we already are".
    The union members are being told "We're no longer gonna GIVE you quite as much."

    The similarity? Both are showing greed. The unions refuse to accept "accepting a little bit less" in the hopes of not having to layoff anyone. They're greed is too much to accept a little less, even if it means thousands will be fired as a result.

    This greed they are showing is no different than the greed rich people show when they say they don't want any more taken from them.

    Greed is greed folks. There aren't heirarchies of greed.

    These union members aren't starving. I've seen them. Many are fat. ALL obviously can afford to take a day off from work, and burn the gas to drive down there (HEY aren't they contributing to global warming by driving there for no necessary cause?)

    Anyway, just thought I'd point out a very interesting irony in the unions showing the same collective greed that the rich people they scolded showed as individuals. But the key difference is:

    - Union greed could result in many losing their jobs (cutting jobs to make budget even)
    - Rich people greed likely PREVENTED many from losing their jobs (employees who would've been laid off due to higher taxes on employer).
     
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    They be asshole.
     
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    I bet 99% of those union members in WI, back in November, were whining that rich people should have to "give a little more" for the collective cause of the country.f

    Yet, when they, as individuals, are also asked to make a very small sacrifice in the name of the greater good (not firing teachers) they refuse to do it.

    Ironic, huh?
     
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    It has always been and will always be a continuing battle between those who actually produce things and those with money.
     
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    You do realize that this gov cut taxes for business at the same time he cut these teachers pay right?

    Then to really insult American workers he tries to strip these workers of rights.


    The first amendment contains freedom of assembily too and you can not take that away from Americans.

    Some how he thought the only workers who deserved these rights are the unions that supported his campaign.
     
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    Um..no.

    This is an attempt to break a public Union. Wisconsin Republicans want to pass laws that make it impossible for Unions to make deals on anything other then salaries.

    "Freemarket" conservatives want to take "Freemarket" bargaining away from Unions.

    And this is the line in the sand.
     
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    People with money don't actually produce things? Srsly?

    I'll tell my dad not to bother working anymore then. After all, those people he employs (and pays exceptionally well, and provides benefits for - even without being told to by some government), and treats like family..... well, they'll all be fine.... after all, the government will pay their mortgages, and bills, and healthcare, and pensions, and everything else that my dad does right now.

    Your stupid whining about 'rich people' is sickening... and based on your own prejudices - not reality.
     
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    It's an attempt to save the state. Which part of 'there is no money' is overly complicated?
     
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    You do realize those businesses employ people, right?

    Why do you hate hard working Americans?
     

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