Kurds destroy Halabja memorial and set museum into fire.

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    Kurds protest in Halabja Print E-mail
    Thursday, 16 March 2006
    Thousands of Kurdish protesters have attacked a memorial to the 1988 gas attack in the Iraqi town of Halabja and stormed official buildings.

    The demonstration came on the 18th anniversary of the deaths of 5000 local people.

    The protesters destroyed a memorial and set fire to a one-storey museum in protest over the lack of local services.

    Witnesses said shooting broke out after people heckled Kurdish officials making speeches to commemorate the attack which most blame on the forces of Saddam Hussein, the former Iraqi president.

    Three local journalists said they saw several casualties, including at least one person who appeared to have been killed. They said the museum had been burnt down.

    A hospital doctor said one person had been killed and eight wounded when Kurdish security forces opened fire on the protesters as they stormed the museum.

    In parliament

    The violence started as Iraq's Kurdish leaders sat in parliament in Baghdad just before it was due to convene three months after elections.

    The anger in Halabja could be embarrassing for Kurdish leaders who have managed to keep the Kurdish north stable as fighting has ripped apart Iraq.

    Hajem al-Hassani, the outgoing speaker of parliament, called for a moment's silence in the chamber to commemorate the Halabja attack, one of the most potent symbols of Kurdish suffering during Saddam's rule.

    Kurdish politicians have often used Halabja to try to unite the ethnic group, whose fortunes changed after a US-led invasion overthrew Saddam in 2003 and elections which swept them to power along with the country's Shia Muslims.

    http://thekurdistani.com/news/content/view/2011/2/



    Iraqi President's forces martyr Halabja again on its 18th Anniversary Print E-mail
    Thursday, 16 March 2006
    London (TheKurdistani.com) - Forces loyal to the Iraqi President killed a Kurdish female teenager and wounded 11 others on Halabja's 18th anniversary of the chemical attack in 1988.

    On 16th of March 1988, the forces of Saddam Hussein, that time's president of Iraq, bombed the city with chemical weapons killing at least 5000 innocents instantly.

    On 16th of March 2006, ironically, the forces of the current Iraqi President, Jalal Talabani, fired on innocent civilians protesting against the lack of public services in their city killing Kurda Ahmed, 14, and injurying at least 11 others.

    While innocent Kurds were being massacared again by the Iraqi Kurdish leaders forces, the Kurdish President of Iraq, Jalal Talabani, and the Kurdistan president, Massoud Barzani, were embracing the Arab leaders in Baghdad.
    http://thekurdistani.com/news/content/view/2009/2/
     
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    Kurds set fire to Halabja Monument as clashes intensify between protestors and Asaysh Print E-mail
    Thursday, 16 March 2006
    London (TheKurdistani.com) – Angry protestors in the city of Halabja demanding better public services for their city were attacked by the Kurdish police (Asaysh) and this turned the peaceful protest into a riot, reported the online Kurdish website, Peyamner.com.


    Peyamner reports that the Halabja Monument was set on fire by angry protestors. The Halabja Monument was built in 2003 in the outskirt of the city.

    Peyamner reports that protestors set fire to the building because it is built on the outskirt of Halabja, preventing international and foreign visitors to see the worsening status of the city.

    At least six civilians have been wounded in clashes between Asaysh security forces and protestors.

    Protestors were chanting slogas such as “Namanawe am jare, masou’l beta em share” which translates to English as “We don’t want anymore, for officials to come to this city”, in a message to the Kurdish officials which protestors say they only visit Halabja on 16th of March for their own interest and to gain publicity.

    http://thekurdistani.com/news/content/view/2007/2/
     
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    I assume that people don’t do this sort of thing lightly, especially when it is a memorial for massacred Kurds. This must be the result of a deep frustration that is boiling over.
     
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    Things have been pretty quite in the Kurdish area of Iraq lately.

    I wouldn`t be surprised to learn, that the Turk`s weren`t stirring up some trouble, just to keep the area destabilized.

    No love lost between the Turk`s, and the Kurd`s.
     
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    No. There you are wrong. Why should Turks destroy Halabja memorial and graveyard of Halabja where those gased Kurds from Saddam rest?
    I assume you know what history Halabja has?

    What would you think, if Jews would destroy a memorial in Ausschwitz?
    We Turks do not have something to do with this.

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    This memorial was set up 1 year ago with big celebration TAM-TAM. How times change and Kurds destroy it bythemself and burn Memorial-museum down and vandalise Halabja graveyard.


    And the reason for this happening has nothing to do with Turkey.
     
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    Opinions vary......... :)
     
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    No, when you blame someone you have to deliver facts and can not put blameing under "opinions vary".
     
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    First of all canavar, I don`t have to DO anything, land of the free, and all that.

    But, to get back to my original post. I`m curious, why didn`t the Turk`s step in and help the Kurd`s when Saddam`s cousin was killing hundreds of thousands of them?

    If Turkey wants to see itself as a leader in that part of the world, don`t you think it would be to their advantage to not allow ethnic cleansing?

    Turkey made it very clear when the coalition was getting ready to invade Iraq, that they would not allow us to use Turkey for a staging area. Their reason, the REAL reason, was they didn`t was the Kurds to shake off their bonds, and become an independent people.

    There is a history of conflict between the Kurd`s, and the Turkish people, tell me I`m wrong.

    The history of Turkey is long, and colorful, and there is much to be proud of, but don`t try to deny the truth.
     
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    Saddam even invited Turkey to "finish" Kurds in last decades, where Turkey did not agreed to the invitation.


    And of course we did something for Kurds in North-Iraq.

    March 11, 2003
    http://www.cfr.org/publication/5714/turkey_prepares_for_a_refugee_influx_from_iraq.html


    How do you think, Barzani and Talabani toured world capitals before 2003?
    With Iraqi passport? with "Kurdish" passport?
    No. Turkey gave them Turkish diplomat passports so they are able to leave North-Iraq and go to World's capitals.


    Jalal Talabani being interviewed on his PUK-parties homepage.
    http://www.puk.org/web/htm/news/knwsline/nws/interv.htm


    I fyou don't believe i can find other sources too. These were found fastly. I can put more time in finding convenient english sources to all i have said.
     
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    And don't forget 36º parallel called “Provide Comfort” and “Northern Watch” which was established On April 5th 1991 from Incirlik. Without Turkey not allowing this 36º parallel would not have been established in North-Iraq.
     

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