I don't know what you think you are demonstrating up there, other than a lack of concern for your fellow Americans.
We have been flooding the AMERICAN labor market with foreigners for decades, generations even. Excuse me, I meant to say, FUCKING FOREIGNERS.
For generations, working class Americans have been paying a heavy price for that, in reduced wages and opportunities.
I'm glad that you have managed to get good help cheap.
But now, it is the turn on the working class to get some attention to their interests. It has been ONE year that we are finally seeing some movement on wages, after generations of stagnation.
Check back with me in 50 years, and I will be open to letting you, as a employer, having your next turn.
IF this were about wages, which you claim are going up without a wall, you've basically acknowledged the substantive part of my argument. So, mission accomplished.
Massive dishonesty there. That we have managed to tighten up the labor market some, without a wall, does not mean that a wall would not help to do so more or maintain gains made.
What you fail to see in all your know it all arrogance when you have admitted you have never studied immigration law nor history is that the demigod you follow inherited his money. He didn't earn it.
He inherited a large amount and grew it. No mean feat. I've seen people inherit and fail to even maintain.
Your silly game of conflating political support with worship, is a sign that you know your argument is weak and needs bolstered by silly games.
He was never a Republican, and he's telling you what you want to hear while he sets you up for the ultimate defeat. MOST of his shit gets defeated in court and the parts where government imposes on your Rights and mine are what is left on the books.
This point would be more credible, if you didn't play games like calling Trump, " demigod".
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Politicians tell you what you want to hear and, like it or not, foreigners come here because they are profitable for big business.
No, foreigners come here because THEY can make money. They are allowed to come here because donors of both parties want the cheap labor, and the dems want the votes.
I don't know why you included the bit about "politicians telling you what you want to hear". Why not fill your posts with observations about water being wet, and ice being cold?
They pay taxes, outwork your sorry ass, complain less, and produce more. For that reason big business will continue to work them unless and until OUR culture changes.
Or until we use our political power to deport their asses and make big business hire Americans or shut down. FUCK THEM.
Americans will have to do what I do. You commit to one another. You do work for the poor and always pay it forward. You will be blessed because your fellow man will then look out for you. I'm not rich, but I have more security than any person on this board. Any American willing to forth the effort, work hard, and display a modicum of loyalty has no legitimate reason to be unemployed or worrying about non-existent "illegals." You watch your fellow American's back, he watches yours and there is no incentive for foreigners to come here.
None of the explains why we should let foreigners flood our labor market, or addresses the fact that doing so hurts the American workers.
1) Again you drone one and on and call me dishonest. You are the pot what calls the kettle black. You have demonstrated your abject stupidity by claiming that I lie and the only thing you put forth is a lie that has been factually REFUTED... making YOU THE DISHONEST ONE
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2) The only person playing games is YOU and nobody is reading your point by point criticism. I won't do it further; I'll simply move forward if you continue this kind of silly shit that NOBODY reads. You said you couldn't read long posts, so don't expect me to
3) Because you will not study the issues and you continue to knowingly lie about me and try to present me as being dishonest when the fact of the matter is that you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground about this subject, you are stuck with a belief in the wall with no supporting evidence AND HISTORY TESTIFYING AGAINST YOU
4) You do not have the constitutional authority to force a business to hire any damn body. That's the point! You don't own the jobs. You didn't stay up at nights and work week-ends and holidays to create the job. You don't know the meaning of the word arrogance because you keep projecting.
Correll, you don't have what it takes to take from me. You've tried to steal from me at every opportunity; you've lied; you've misrepresented the facts; you've never created a damn thing but a little chaos on a discussion board. I worked hard for what I have. You don't have the balls to take it; government cannot, constitutionally, take it from me. So, while you're advocating illegal and unconstitutional actions, I can understand your apathy toward the Second Amendment and your fellow Americans
5) A substantial number of Americans disagree with your position. They willingly do business with foreigners. As time progresses, that majority is growing. I read an unverified figure that 70 percent of Americans were still "white." A good many of them are liberal. Every election cycle, people like you become less influential.
We started to do that massive deportation thing; the optics didn't work and Trump blinked (your dumb ass was sleeping on that one.) With so many of these foreigners having American families, it would appear your idiotic ass would wake up. Deportation on a massive scale won't happen. Separating families over a civil misdemeanor would be shot down in the federal courts as a violation of the 8th Amendment.
6) You aren't going to use force - you lack the foot soldiers among the citizenry to do it and it cannot be done due to that stumbling block called the Constitution. You can incentivize businesses to hire all American staffs, but you can't force them to do it. Laws are not stopping it and never have - never will. See the above link.
1. Walls work. That is why our houses have them.
2. Keeping outsiders OUT, is a function of government. Having an immigration policy or a policy of a tight labor market is not "Forcing" an employer to hire someone.
3. I am aware of the demographics. That the long term looks bad, is not a reason to just give up now.
4. You sure deportations have stopped? Can you support that?
1) Houses are not nations. Let us destroy your house theory yet again. How many times does this make?
If America is a "house" in your analogy, then each room in that house is a state. If each state pays its share of the rent (in this analogy that would be taxes) then who they invite into their room as guests and how they choose to maintain their room is none of your damn business
2) Show me in the Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation or the Constitution where the function of government is to keep outsiders (sic) out
3) I have never advocated or ever thought about giving up. You just don't give a numerically superior number of enemies a reason to attack you. Trump failed to get his signature legislation passed in his first term and Obama got his passed in his first year. Quit being a dumb ass
4) I have never said that deportations stopped. Are you stupid or simply addicted to lying? Really dude, are you that desperate?
Mass deportations and separating families went over like a farting contest in Sunday school. Hell, Rip Van Winkle, where were you?
1. It is my business since they and/or their impact won't stay in those other rooms. Your claim that you have demolished my argument on this before, was self serving nonsense.
2. THe function of government keeping outsiders out, is part of the definition of government, not something specific to our government.
3. If you fear to even try to pursue government policies to serve our interests, for fear of provoking attack, then you are indeed, advocating for giving up. THat is what giving up IS.
4. Your words, old man. "We started to do that massive deportation thing; the optics didn't work and Trump blinked (your dumb ass was sleeping on that one.)...Deportation on a massive scale won't happen." So, support your claim that mass deportations are not happening.