Karl Marx view of outsourcing

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    Can someone please tell me, What would a marxist thinker, think about the outsourcing of jobs that going on right now?

    Im trying to an essay and i have no clue on this subject.

    thanks in advance
     
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    Moving this to the general usa section. I think you'll get more responses there.

    Welcome to the board, kristen. :)
     
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    thanks alot :)


    do you know the awnser?
     
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    It would depend on where the marxist would consider the boundary of the state to end. The ambitious marxist would look at globalism and internationalization as a way of more effectively and efficiently and equally ditributing resources and production capacties around the globe. Sadly most communists today are not even good ones, so they think business is evil.
     
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    thanks that helps a little bit, ill try to expand on that.....
    what else do you think lol
     
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    Knowing what I know about Communism/Marxism, most of them would be extremely upset that workers were being exploited by companies in the first place, and that the solution would be to a) not allow private companies to exist, and b) have people work in state-run businesses that didn't export jobs. The net effect, of course, has been seen in countries like the former USSR and/or the former Warsaw Pact.
     
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    Gosh. It's so weird to be asked. I'm usually foisting my ideas on people like a bad, alcoholic, mormon, vacuum cleaner salesman!

    Anyway. Focus on the concept of one world government. Who wants it. I think everyone wants it. I think it's inevitable. I don't know exactly what form it will take, but I know that to be successful, it must have certain characteristics, it must legislate to the individual, not groups, it must have a clearly defined list of inaliable personal liberties, and property rights. It must repect the role of free trade and capitalism as humankinds most successful resource coordination and all purpose need satisfaction system, and have a clear set of corporate law on the books.

    Liberals want one world government, but only if it will be along their socialist models of reality. Income redistribution, engineering society according to fanciful notions of fairness, etc.

    The nuclear age is not conducive to a lot of disparate states with separate military infrastructures.

    Now. If you discuss this with most people, they will call you a fascist and send you to a site: www.pnac.org. GO check it out. Know what you're getting into. these are the people finally facing the awesome task of evolving the planet to it's next higher state.

    And when they call you crazy, look them in the eye and say, with a chill "You're either with us, or against us." And then laugh maniacally.
     
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    Yes. kristen. start with what gopjeff has said. This is conventional. what I was writing was a little bit mad and provocative, but still stuff to think about.


    I think there is some kind of thought in communist crap somewhere that fully developed world capitalism is just a precursor stage to effective communism.
     
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    In order for the true proletariat revolt against the capitalist burgeois to take place, there must first exist a fully overarching global capitalist market structure.

    A globally integrated free market system must first exist to create a small group of massive corporate conglomerations that have internationally consolidated most if not all power, including all economic, democratic, and military sources.

    Further this consolidation of power must advance technologically far enough to lead to a manufacturing base that is largely automated.

    At this point the capitalists at the head of the corporations are no longer neccessary, a proletariat revolt ensues, and the scientists and technicians responsible for the creation, innovation, and maintenace of the automated instruments of manufacture can rule, under a fully democratic referendum style of government, with the intent of fairly distributing the fruits of those technological advances to everyone equally.

    So whether a modern day Marxist realizes it or not, the cosolidation of international corporations is precisely what Marx predicted. Earlier forms of 'communism' extinct or extant are aberrations.
     
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    I'd not quite looked at it that way Zhukov, now my brain hurts but I will ponder that a bit...
     

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