Just another short video to show the irony and absurdity of "zero emission" EV busses and equipment

[iamwhatiseem]

Yuo just can't make this stuff up........

 

[Crick]

Yuo just can't make this stuff up........

So, those electric buses, the ones charged from food oil powered generators... how much CO2 do they produce when they are coasting? Decelerating? Stopped? And how do you think the efficiency of those generators, running constantly at their engine's optimum RPM, compare to the diesel those busses could have been powered by, idling, accelerating, decelerating?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

So, those electric buses, the ones charged from food oil powered generators... how much CO2 do they produce when they are coasting? Decelerating? Stopped? And how do you think the efficiency of those generators, running constantly at their engine's optimum RPM, compare to the diesel those busses could have been powered by, idling, accelerating, decelerating?

Food Oil?
The video clearly shows two of the generators are Diesel powered.
And then there are the long line of EV charging stations hooked up to the power grid... that is 80% fossil fuel generated or higher depending on location.

 

[Crick]

Food Oil?
The video clearly shows two of the generators are Diesel powered.

The video pointed out that the first generator they looked at was powered by used food oil. However, the oil being used has no bearing on the points I made. A generator is far more efficient way to get energy out of fossil fuel than an engine in a vehicle and EV drives are far more energy efficient than ICE drives.

And then there are the long line of EV charging stations hooked up to the power grid... that is 80% fossil fuel generated or higher depending on location.

The amount of fossil fuel powering the grid is going down each and every day.

 

[petro]

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[iamwhatiseem]

The video pointed out that the first generator they looked at was powered by used food oil. However, the oil being used has no bearing on the points I made. A generator is far more efficient way to get energy out of fossil fuel than an engine in a vehicle and EV drives are far more energy efficient than ICE drives.

The amount of fossil fuel powering the grid is going down each and every day.

Not it isn't... it is increasing with electrical demand.
Energy consumption, in the United States, continues to soar and shows no sign whatsoever of decreasing. Yes, the market share of fossil fuels is S L O W L Y declining - the rate of use, however, is still increasing.
A LOT.

 

[Crick]

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You need to sort out business failures from technology failures.

 

[Crick]

Not it isn't... it is increasing with electrical demand.
Energy consumption, in the United States, continues to soar and shows no sign whatsoever of decreasing. Yes, the market share of fossil fuels is S L O W L Y declining - the rate of use, however, is still increasing.
A LOT.

As you just stated, the market share of fossil fuels is declining. The percent of energy coming out of our outlets that originated from fossil fuels is declining. Thanks for the validation.

 

[petro]

You need to sort out business failures from technology failures.

The article stated that there were many technical issues with the busses.
Bet you didn't read a word of it.

 

[petro]

Exerpt for the inept...
Leigh McCabe, a heavy duty mechanic and transit union representative, says the electric buses have needed replacement transmissions and electric drivetrain motors.
In a court filing last month, the city's U.S. lawyers wrote that Edmonton's electric buses have failed to meet contract qualifications with respect to range, battery life, reliability and durability.

The document says the range of the electric buses is shorter than Proterra stated — "an issue that is exacerbated in Edmonton's cold winters" — and there have been problems with the software that controls the vehicles

McCabe told CBC News that only 16 of the 60 buses were able to go on the roads that morning; the rest needed repairs.

 

[Blues Man]

The video pointed out that the first generator they looked at was powered by used food oil. However, the oil being used has no bearing on the points I made. A generator is far more efficient way to get energy out of fossil fuel than an engine in a vehicle and EV drives are far more energy efficient than ICE drives.

The amount of fossil fuel powering the grid is going down each and every day.

Which is why hybrid vehicle make far more sense that all electric.

Have a small ICE run the generator that charges the battery like the Nissan e Power cars

 

[Oddball]

"Zero emissions" = "l suck at math"

 

[Oddball]

Which is why hybrid vehicle make far more sense that all electric.

Have a small ICE run the generator that charged the battery like the Nissan e Power cars

Even better: have a small ICE engine directly run the electric motor and vehicle accessories, like locomotives.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

As you just stated, the market share of fossil fuels is declining. The percent of energy coming out of our outlets that originated from fossil fuels is declining. Thanks for the validation.

You are either willing to lie, or just that ignorant.

Let's say you have two markets - Apples, and oranges.
For the past 5 years, oranges have been gaining market share. But the sale of both have risen faster than that market share.
So let's say in year one 5,000 apples were sold.
By year 5, despite oranges have been making very slow gains in market share, the demand for fruit overall has resulted in 7,000 apples being sold.
Can you understand that? Or do you need it explained more using words with 4 letters or less?

Fossil fuel use is still increasing.

 

[Blues Man]

Even better: have a small ICE engine directly run the electric motor and vehicle accessories, like locomotives.

With the e power the ICE won't have to be constantly running saving fuel and money

 

[Oddball]

With the e power the ICE won't have to be constantly running saving fuel and money

A 200CC motor idling doesn't burn that much fuel in the first place, and still has a role in running the vehicle peripherals.

 

[Blues Man]

A 200CC motor idling doesn't burn that much fuel in the first place, and still has a role in running the vehicle peripherals.

Over the lifetime of a car it adds up

 

[Crick]

With the e power the ICE won't have to be constantly running saving fuel and money

To be fair, ICE vehicles these days shut themselves down when the vehicle is stopped. It's not as effective as an EV in that regard and there's certainly no regenerative braking, but newer ICE cars don't idle as much.