CDZ John Legend, gives thumbs up to close down ICE

[Asclepias]

Let us remember yesterday’s nationwide protest to close down ICE was funded by Socialist friendly, open border groups who are working to destroy and then subjugate America from within. Some of the backers of the Saturday protest were Move/On.org American Civil Liberties Union, The Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, and the National Domestic Workers Alliance, the director of which, Ai-jen Poo, has, for over a year, been calling for Obama to become “Organizer-in-Chief”. It appears the "Organizer-in-Chief" has been working secretly in the background and using the tactics which helped to get him elected.


These “organizers” are very clever at creating an emotional outrage by exploiting children, using them as a weapon, just like the Viet Cong used children to deliver bombs to our troops which then blew both of them up.


And let us not forget these “organizers” have a Fifth Column media and Yellow Journalists in their corner. And they also have Hollywood’s Limousine Socialists like John Legend, trying to convince yesterday's protestors how sympathetic he is towards the millions of illegal entrant children and their plight.

If John Legend and his wife were really as concerned about the “children’s” plight as they say, then why hasn’t he and his squeeze taken a few hundred of these children into their $14 million plus mansion in Beverly Hills? Instead, he attacks ICE for making our inner cities safe, who fearlessly confront some of the most dangerous illegal entrant criminals, many who are MS-13 gang members.

Does John Legend not care about the safety and well-being of American citizens living in our nation’s inner cities?

JWK


American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance the economic needs of millions of poverty stricken, poorly educated, low and unskilled aliens who have invaded America’s borders.

And Americans should care about what "John Legend" says, why?

Because he sings way better than Drumpf.

So do I and most of my family, and-?

You dont sing as well as John Legend though.

Actually I can, and have a broader range. I can go lower and higher than that dude.

 

[johnwk]

. . . fact is, native born citizens are morel likely to commit crimes than immigrants.

We are not talking about "immigrants". We are talking about illegal entrants as distinguished from immigrants. Try to understand the difference.

Oh I fully understand the difference. Learn something

Are undocumented immigrants less likely to commit crime?

What is the ratio of illegal entrants to U.S. citizens?


See DOJ releases data on incarceration rates of illegal immigrants

"The Department of Justice Tuesday released its first set of data on the incarceration rates of undocumented immigrants ordered by President Trump in an effort to build a case for more aggressive enforcement of immigration laws.

Of the 45,493 foreign-born inmates in the federal prison system made up of 188,658 inmates, the Justice Department said 3,939 are U.S. citizens."


Your argument is refuted by the facts!

JWK

 

[DrLove]

What is the ratio of illegal entrants to U.S. citizens?

See DOJ releases data on incarceration rates of illegal immigrants

"The Department of Justice Tuesday released its first set of data on the incarceration rates of undocumented immigrants ordered by President Trump in an effort to build a case for more aggressive enforcement of immigration laws.

Of the 45,493 foreign-born inmates in the federal prison system made up of 188,658 inmates, the Justice Department said 3,939 are U.S. citizens."

Your argument is refuted by the facts!

Give me a fucking break - YOUR argument is refuted by reality.
And your talking point was a failure 6 months ago - Of course Sessions, Miller & Dotard are going to skew actual facts to their advantage as in DuH?
All that is factored into the studies, but you've been duped by your clownish Orange God.

The first study, published by the libertarian Cato Institute in February, examines criminal conviction data for 2015 provided by the Texas Department of Public Safety. It found that native-born residents were much more likely to be convicted of a crime than immigrants in the country legally or illegally.

"As a percentage of their respective populations, there were 56 percent fewer criminal convictions of illegal immigrants than of native-born Americans in Texas in 2015," author Alex Nowrasteh writes. "The criminal conviction rate for legal immigrants was about 85 percent below the native-born rate."

The data shows similar patterns for violent crimes such as homicide and property crimes such as larceny. The study did find that immigrants in the United States illegally were more likely than native-born people to be convicted of "gambling, kidnapping, smuggling, and vagrancy." But as those crimes represented just 0.18 percent of all convictions in Texas that year, they had little effect on overall crime rates.​

Analysis | Two charts demolish the notion that immigrants here illegally commit more crime

 

[johnwk]

What is the ratio of illegal entrants to U.S. citizens?

See DOJ releases data on incarceration rates of illegal immigrants

"The Department of Justice Tuesday released its first set of data on the incarceration rates of undocumented immigrants ordered by President Trump in an effort to build a case for more aggressive enforcement of immigration laws.

Of the 45,493 foreign-born inmates in the federal prison system made up of 188,658 inmates, the Justice Department said 3,939 are U.S. citizens."

Your argument is refuted by the facts!

Give me a fucking break - YOUR argument is refuted by reality.

Your "reality" is outdated [2015 and under the Obama Administration], in addition to being speculative and peddled by an organization driven by a nitwit libertarian philosophy of open borders and that illegal immigration is a net benefit to the United States.

You really need to do better my friend.

JWK




If we can make 51 percent of America’s population dependent upon the federal government for its subsistence, we can then bribe them for their vote, keep ourselves in power and keep the remaining portion of America’s productive population enslaved to pay the bills ____ Our Socialist Fifth Column open border leaders’ long term strategy

 

[blackhawk]

This because having an open borders policy and the problems that come with it have no impact on the lives of people like John Legend for them it's just the trendy cause of the moment to get behind.

 

[MarathonMike]

I know when I want opinions on what to do about government policy, I always turn to an entertainer. BTW what does Ozzie Ozbourne think about this issue? I'd sure like his input.

 

[DrLove]

Your "reality" is outdated [2015 and under the Obama Administration], in addition to being speculative and peddled by an organization driven by a nitwit libertarian philosophy of open borders and that illegal immigration is a net benefit to the United States.

You really need to do better my friend.

JWK

Appreciate the concession - We all F up from time to time

 

[task0778]

Am I correct in assuming that those who would close down ICE want no alternative but to have open borders?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Probably because John Legend isnt concerned with what you think he should do to show that he cares about the children. Its the responsibility of the POTUS not John Legend to make sure these kids are properly and humanely treated.

It was reported yesterday that Trump's "task force" reunited precisely 6 kids with their parents ALL OF LAST WEEK.
At that rate, he'll have all 2,100 reunited by the year 2024 - So much "winning"

6 children in 6 days, thousands left: Inside the family reunifications - CNNPolitics

At least Obama made some good money selling those kids

 

[CrusaderFrank]

. . . fact is, native born citizens are morel likely to commit crimes than immigrants.

We are not talking about "immigrants". We are talking about illegal entrants as distinguished from immigrants. Try to understand the difference.


In any event see The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave


"Police commanders may not want to discuss, much less respond to, the illegal-alien crisis, but its magnitude for law enforcement is startling. Some examples:

• In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens."


JWK

American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance the economic needs of millions of poverty stricken, poorly educated, low and unskilled aliens who have invaded America’s borders.

Drumps policies automatically make people criminals or illegal.

They're here illegally.

Lol.

 

[Asclepias]

Am I correct in assuming that those who would close down ICE want no alternative but to have open borders?

I would say you were listening to the ringleader of the rubes too much. No one said close down ICE without an alternative and ICE is different from border patrol. ICE was created by the homeland security act.

 

[Asclepias]

. . . fact is, native born citizens are morel likely to commit crimes than immigrants.

We are not talking about "immigrants". We are talking about illegal entrants as distinguished from immigrants. Try to understand the difference.


In any event see The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave


"Police commanders may not want to discuss, much less respond to, the illegal-alien crisis, but its magnitude for law enforcement is startling. Some examples:

• In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens."


JWK

American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance the economic needs of millions of poverty stricken, poorly educated, low and unskilled aliens who have invaded America’s borders.

Drumps policies automatically make people criminals or illegal.

They're here illegally.

Lol.

Only a rube doesnt know that if you are seeking asylum you are not here illegally.

 

[hjmick]

Well, if John Legend says so...

 

[task0778]

Am I correct in assuming that those who would close down ICE want no alternative but to have open borders?

I would say you were listening to the ringleader of the rubes too much. No one said close down ICE without an alternative and ICE is different from border patrol. ICE was created by the homeland security act.

And their alternative to ICE is what?

 

[Asclepias]

Am I correct in assuming that those who would close down ICE want no alternative but to have open borders?

I would say you were listening to the ringleader of the rubes too much. No one said close down ICE without an alternative and ICE is different from border patrol. ICE was created by the homeland security act.

And their alternative to ICE is what?

Why do you ask? Thats for the politicians to come up with after this failed implementation.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

. . . fact is, native born citizens are morel likely to commit crimes than immigrants.

We are not talking about "immigrants". We are talking about illegal entrants as distinguished from immigrants. Try to understand the difference.


In any event see The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave


"Police commanders may not want to discuss, much less respond to, the illegal-alien crisis, but its magnitude for law enforcement is startling. Some examples:

• In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens."


JWK

American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance the economic needs of millions of poverty stricken, poorly educated, low and unskilled aliens who have invaded America’s borders.

Drumps policies automatically make people criminals or illegal.

They're here illegally.

Lol.

Only a rube doesnt know that if you are seeking asylum you are not here illegally.

They're ALL seeking asylum? Are you sure?

It's going to be interesting to see how many of these kids don't genetically match either parent.

"I come seeking asylum and thought I'd sell this little girl to Barack's friends to pay my way up here. Donde esta la bibliotecha?"

 

[Asclepias]

. . . fact is, native born citizens are morel likely to commit crimes than immigrants.

We are not talking about "immigrants". We are talking about illegal entrants as distinguished from immigrants. Try to understand the difference.


In any event see The Illegal-Alien Crime Wave


"Police commanders may not want to discuss, much less respond to, the illegal-alien crisis, but its magnitude for law enforcement is startling. Some examples:

• In Los Angeles, 95 percent of all outstanding warrants for homicide (which total 1,200 to 1,500) target illegal aliens. Up to two-thirds of all fugitive felony warrants (17,000) are for illegal aliens."


JWK

American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance the economic needs of millions of poverty stricken, poorly educated, low and unskilled aliens who have invaded America’s borders.

Drumps policies automatically make people criminals or illegal.

They're here illegally.

Lol.

Only a rube doesnt know that if you are seeking asylum you are not here illegally.

They're ALL seeking asylum? Are you sure?

It's going to be interesting to see how many of these kids don't genetically match either parent.

"I come seeking asylum and thought I'd sell this little girl to Barack's friends to pay my way up here. Donde esta la bibliotecha?"

Not really the point. You claimed they were here illegally and 1000s of them are seeking asylum.

 

[ptbw forever]

Probably because John Legend isnt concerned with what you think he should do to show that he cares about the children. Its the responsibility of the POTUS not John Legend to make sure these kids are properly and humanely treated.

It was reported yesterday that Trump's "task force" reunited precisely 6 kids with their parents ALL OF LAST WEEK.
At that rate, he'll have all 2,100 reunited by the year 2024 - So much "winning"

6 children in 6 days, thousands left: Inside the family reunifications - CNNPolitics

You idiots claimed Trump could fix this with his pen, and now that his pen has done very little, you still want to pretend you have a leg to stand on?

When will you retards learn to shut up about matters you have no idea about?

 

[task0778]

Am I correct in assuming that those who would close down ICE want no alternative but to have open borders?

I would say you were listening to the ringleader of the rubes too much. No one said close down ICE without an alternative and ICE is different from border patrol. ICE was created by the homeland security act.

And their alternative to ICE is what?

Why do you ask? Thats for the politicians to come up with after this failed implementation.

I ask because I think it's irresponsible to call for the abolishment of an agency without forethought into how it's functions will be managed in the future.

 

[Asclepias]

Am I correct in assuming that those who would close down ICE want no alternative but to have open borders?

I would say you were listening to the ringleader of the rubes too much. No one said close down ICE without an alternative and ICE is different from border patrol. ICE was created by the homeland security act.

And their alternative to ICE is what?

Why do you ask? Thats for the politicians to come up with after this failed implementation.

I ask because I think it's irresponsible to call for the abolishment of an agency without forethought into how it's functions will be managed in the future.

That patently ridiculous. Protests are not planning committees. Thats the work of the politicians people put in office.