B. Kidd
Diamond Member
Some of these 'blaming the victim' gurus may be walking in the unemployed's shoes sometime soon. Maybe then they'll get it!
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It doesn't work that way....a lot of unemployed people would appreciate the job more than someone who is currently working...
It doesn't work that way....a lot of unemployed people would appreciate the job more than someone who is currently working...
You and I don't buy because the seller needs to sell something we don't need. We buy if the product is something we need. The only unemployed people that get hired are the ones needed by the company that's hiring.
I just don't understand, I lost my job in Virginia because the company I worked for shut down, not because I did anything bad or had had issues, this kind of profiling is just as bad as racism, if you want to see if the person had issues I am sure the previous supervisor at the old job would be more than happy to tell you.
Just as bad as racism? Not even close. In fact, its not bad at all. But what is hurting the unemployed is those who are just rideing the long term unemployment gravy train. This causes the employer to shun the long term unemployed. And the fact that when your on unemployment the state does absolutly nothing to verify that you are actually looking for a job other than filing a 5 question report or somethimes a list of places you applied for of which they will never check. There is massive fraud among the unemployed right now and its giving the honest worker a bad name.
Unemployment only lasts so long, mine expired after a year in Virginia although I found a job in 6 months, I still don't feel this is right if employees are all going to take this kind of attitude and discriminate against the unemployed none of these folks are going to find jobs, I have to disagree on this. I guess once you have been unemployed you look at this issue from a different view, you guys are making unemployed people sound like crack addicts on the streets.
Huh? I don't follow you, I don't see the comparison between this issue and people not paying back banks.
The point is that there is a descrimination for everything. And the banks refered to stuff like the accusation of "redlining" in Chicago Where Obama and ACORN sued Citi Bank on the bascis of descrimination for not giving home loans in an area where the property value was droping, violence rate was high, and people had little income. When people want to get something done they use the term "descrimination" to get the political blood flowing. In order to pass a rediculous liberty snatching law there is usually an alegged victem and there is no better way to cry victemhood than the word "descrimination". We have racial descrimination, wealth descrimination, gender descrimination, unemployment descrimination, homosexual descrimination, pre existing disease descrimination, and lets make up a few more shall we? If you refuse to hire a man because of his lack of education or job skill we should call it education/ skill descrimination. If you cant pay for your dvd at the electronics stor we should call it income descrimination. If I wipe my ass with two ply toilet paper lets call it mono ply descrimination. If you want to go after someone or something in order to force an unnatural action you simpily accuse them of some form of descrimination and that will bring cries of outrage and protest and perhaps something in the realm of a law will get done. I'm tired of the overuse of the word descrimination. Look how your article laments that unemployment descrimination is perfectly legal as if some crime had occured. Its just another way to suggest outlawing a good business descision in order to artificially give someone something that they did not earn and are not entitled to.
Oh, and the fact that I spelled discrimination wrong each and every time in this thread you could say I'm guilty of spelling discrimination.
You might now want to hear it but if a company is not hiring people because they are unemployed it is discrimination, point blank period.
Just as bad as racism? Not even close. In fact, its not bad at all. But what is hurting the unemployed is those who are just rideing the long term unemployment gravy train. This causes the employer to shun the long term unemployed. And the fact that when your on unemployment the state does absolutly nothing to verify that you are actually looking for a job other than filing a 5 question report or somethimes a list of places you applied for of which they will never check. There is massive fraud among the unemployed right now and its giving the honest worker a bad name.
Unemployment only lasts so long, mine expired after a year in Virginia although I found a job in 6 months, I still don't feel this is right if employees are all going to take this kind of attitude and discriminate against the unemployed none of these folks are going to find jobs, I have to disagree on this. I guess once you have been unemployed you look at this issue from a different view, you guys are making unemployed people sound like crack addicts on the streets.
Whenever to make a choice you discreminate. You dont call your better choice discriminating against the bad one but you are descriminating against the perceived bad choice for the perceived good. But when people want the heavy hand of government to impelement laws that benefit them over another they call it discrimination. Its wrong and it is a violation of the natural right to freedom of association. A man doesent create a business so that people can tell him how to run his own business against his will.
The point is that there is a descrimination for everything. And the banks refered to stuff like the accusation of "redlining" in Chicago Where Obama and ACORN sued Citi Bank on the bascis of descrimination for not giving home loans in an area where the property value was droping, violence rate was high, and people had little income. When people want to get something done they use the term "descrimination" to get the political blood flowing. In order to pass a rediculous liberty snatching law there is usually an alegged victem and there is no better way to cry victemhood than the word "descrimination". We have racial descrimination, wealth descrimination, gender descrimination, unemployment descrimination, homosexual descrimination, pre existing disease descrimination, and lets make up a few more shall we? If you refuse to hire a man because of his lack of education or job skill we should call it education/ skill descrimination. If you cant pay for your dvd at the electronics stor we should call it income descrimination. If I wipe my ass with two ply toilet paper lets call it mono ply descrimination. If you want to go after someone or something in order to force an unnatural action you simpily accuse them of some form of descrimination and that will bring cries of outrage and protest and perhaps something in the realm of a law will get done. I'm tired of the overuse of the word descrimination. Look how your article laments that unemployment descrimination is perfectly legal as if some crime had occured. Its just another way to suggest outlawing a good business descision in order to artificially give someone something that they did not earn and are not entitled to.
Oh, and the fact that I spelled discrimination wrong each and every time in this thread you could say I'm guilty of spelling discrimination.
You might now want to hear it but if a company is not hiring people because they are unemployed it is discrimination, point blank period.
If I want to masterbate with my left hand instead of my right it is discrimination. You might not want to hear it but if a man is masterbating with his left instead of his right hand it is descrimination, point blank perioud. We should pass a law to give equal oppertunity for each hand huh?
You know what? If a business hires a highly educated and highly skilled man over a guy with no HS diploma and no job experience or skills he must be discriminating against the low skilled man huh? He should be forced to hire an equal number of low skilled employees for the same job and pay as the high skilled ones huh?
Unemployment only lasts so long, mine expired after a year in Virginia although I found a job in 6 months, I still don't feel this is right if employees are all going to take this kind of attitude and discriminate against the unemployed none of these folks are going to find jobs, I have to disagree on this. I guess once you have been unemployed you look at this issue from a different view, you guys are making unemployed people sound like crack addicts on the streets.
Whenever to make a choice you discreminate. You dont call your better choice discriminating against the bad one but you are descriminating against the perceived bad choice for the perceived good. But when people want the heavy hand of government to impelement laws that benefit them over another they call it discrimination. Its wrong and it is a violation of the natural right to freedom of association. A man doesent create a business so that people can tell him how to run his own business against his will.
With that kind of attitude how are unemployed people supposed to find work? should we round them all up against a wall and machine gun them to death so we won't have to deal with their issues?
Whenever to make a choice you discreminate. You dont call your better choice discriminating against the bad one but you are descriminating against the perceived bad choice for the perceived good. But when people want the heavy hand of government to impelement laws that benefit them over another they call it discrimination. Its wrong and it is a violation of the natural right to freedom of association. A man doesent create a business so that people can tell him how to run his own business against his will.
With that kind of attitude how are unemployed people supposed to find work? should we round them all up against a wall and machine gun them to death so we won't have to deal with their issues?
The way you find work is the way unemployed have always found work
You need to work your way back up the employment ladder. It may mean taking less pay. It may mean working in an unrelated field. It may mean temporary or part time work.
Once the economy picks up, your old skills will be needed again
With that kind of attitude how are unemployed people supposed to find work? should we round them all up against a wall and machine gun them to death so we won't have to deal with their issues?
The way you find work is the way unemployed have always found work
You need to work your way back up the employment ladder. It may mean taking less pay. It may mean working in an unrelated field. It may mean temporary or part time work.
Once the economy picks up, your old skills will be needed again
Well I guess I was lucky, I was able to find a job that paid me the same salary as my old one, guess most people are not as fortunate.
I just don't understand, I lost my job in Virginia because the company I worked for shut down, not because I did anything bad or had had issues, this kind of profiling is just as bad as racism, if you want to see if the person had issues I am sure the previous supervisor at the old job would be more than happy to tell you.
Just as bad as racism? Not even close. In fact, its not bad at all. But what is hurting the unemployed is those who are just rideing the long term unemployment gravy train. This causes the employer to shun the long term unemployed. And the fact that when your on unemployment the state does absolutly nothing to verify that you are actually looking for a job other than filing a 5 question report or somethimes a list of places you applied for of which they will never check. There is massive fraud among the unemployed right now and its giving the honest worker a bad name.
Unemployment only lasts so long, mine expired after a year in Virginia although I found a job in 6 months, I still don't feel this is right if employees are all going to take this kind of attitude and discriminate against the unemployed none of these folks are going to find jobs, I have to disagree on this. I guess once you have been unemployed you look at this issue from a different view, you guys are making unemployed people sound like crack addicts on the streets.
You might now want to hear it but if a company is not hiring people because they are unemployed it is discrimination, point blank period.
If I want to masterbate with my left hand instead of my right it is discrimination. You might not want to hear it but if a man is masterbating with his left instead of his right hand it is descrimination, point blank perioud. We should pass a law to give equal oppertunity for each hand huh?
You know what? If a business hires a highly educated and highly skilled man over a guy with no HS diploma and no job experience or skills he must be discriminating against the low skilled man huh? He should be forced to hire an equal number of low skilled employees for the same job and pay as the high skilled ones huh?
Come now you know thats not the same thing, the issue is unemployed people not getting hired because they are unemployed, I am not saying we need to put people in positions they are not qualified to work in.
Unemployment only lasts so long, mine expired after a year in Virginia although I found a job in 6 months, I still don't feel this is right if employees are all going to take this kind of attitude and discriminate against the unemployed none of these folks are going to find jobs, I have to disagree on this. I guess once you have been unemployed you look at this issue from a different view, you guys are making unemployed people sound like crack addicts on the streets.
Whenever to make a choice you discreminate. You dont call your better choice discriminating against the bad one but you are descriminating against the perceived bad choice for the perceived good. But when people want the heavy hand of government to impelement laws that benefit them over another they call it discrimination. Its wrong and it is a violation of the natural right to freedom of association. A man doesent create a business so that people can tell him how to run his own business against his will.
With that kind of attitude how are unemployed people supposed to find work? should we round them all up against a wall and machine gun them to death so we won't have to deal with their issues?
Whenever to make a choice you discreminate. You dont call your better choice discriminating against the bad one but you are descriminating against the perceived bad choice for the perceived good. But when people want the heavy hand of government to impelement laws that benefit them over another they call it discrimination. Its wrong and it is a violation of the natural right to freedom of association. A man doesent create a business so that people can tell him how to run his own business against his will.
With that kind of attitude how are unemployed people supposed to find work? should we round them all up against a wall and machine gun them to death so we won't have to deal with their issues?
No we should do absolutly nothing about it. IT IS NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE A JOB! And no government should make the determination that you are qualified for the job and thus must force the employer to hire you on the grounds of unemployment discrimination. Your not a victem of anything other than your own choices and chance circumstances. Welcome to reality.