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    .Jim DeMint votes to give Federal government controversial new powers.

    .Two days ago I wrote that South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham was backing the creation of broad and controversial new powers for the Federal government.

    Senators Carl Levin (D-MI), John McCain (R-AZ), and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) crafted legislation to allow the US military to arrest US citizens on US soil, suspend their constitutional rights, and detain them indefinitely. The provisions would completely do away with Posse Comitatus. The provisions were inserted into the Defense Spending Bill in section 1031 and 1032.

    As a smokescreen, section 1031 grants the military the power to arrest and detain foreigners on US soil. Then 1032 expands the power to include US citizens. It was apparently hoped that section 1032 would go completely unnoticed.

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    Levin, McCain, and Graham say only legitimate "terrorists" will be arrested and detained by the military. However, that assumes that the current or any future president does not abuse the power.

    Senator Mark Udall (D-CO_ introduced an amendment to strip out the provisions. His amendment was cosponsored by Rand Paul (R-KY), and Jim Webb (D-VA).

    However the Senate voted 60-38 against the amendment. Only two Republicans voted against it.

    So far, the "mainstream" press has given the issue very little coverage. However, a firestorm of anger has erupted on left-wing, right-wing, and libertarian websites. The main backers of the provisions seem to be the Neo-con wing of the Republican party.

    RT, Russia's English language international news network ran a long segment portraying the US as an emerging police state.

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    Bennet (D-CO)

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    Brown (D-OH)

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    Harkin (D-IA)

    Johnson (D-SD)

    Kerry (D-MA)

    Kirk (R-IL)

    Klobuchar (D-MN)

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    Leahy (D-VT)

    Menendez (D-NJ)

    Merkley (D-OR)

    Mikulski (D-MD)

    Murray (D-WA)

    Nelson (D-FL)

    Paul (R-KY)

    Reid (D-NV)

    Rockefeller (D-WV)

    Sanders (I-VT)

    Schumer (D-NY)

    Tester (D-MT)

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    Warner (D-VA)

    Webb (D-VA)

    Wyden (D-OR)

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    Alexander (R-TN)

    Ayotte (R-NH)

    Barrasso (R-WY)

    Blunt (R-MO)

    Boozman (R-AR)

    Brown (R-MA)

    Burr (R-NC)

    Casey (D-PA)

    ​Chambliss (R-GA)

    Coats (R-IN)

    Coburn (R-OK)

    Cochran (R-MS)

    Collins (R-ME)

    Conrad (D-ND)

    Corker (R-TN)

    Cornyn (R-TX)

    Crapo (R-ID)

    DeMint (R-SC)

    Enzi (R-WY)

    Graham (R-SC)

    Grassley (R-IA)

    Hagan (D-NC)

    Hatch (R-UT)

    Heller (R-NV)

    Hoeven (R-ND)

    Hutchison (R-TX)

    Inhofe (R-OK)

    Inouye (D-HI)

    Isakson (R-GA)

    Johanns (R-NE)

    Johnson (R-WI)

    Kohl (D-WI)

    Kyl (R-AZ)

    Landrieu (D-LA)

    Lee (R-UT)

    Levin (D-MI)

    Lieberman (ID-CT)

    Lugar (R-IN)

    Manchin (D-WV)

    McCain (R-AZ)

    McCaskill (D-MO)

    McConnell (R-KY)

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    Nelson (D-NE)

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    Senators Carl Levin (D-MI), John McCain (R-AZ), and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) crafted legislation to allow the US military to arrest US citizens on US soil, suspend their constitutional rights, and detain them indefinitely. The provisions would completely do away with Posse Comitatus. The provisions were inserted into the Defense Spending Bill in section 1031 and 1032.

    As a smokescreen, section 1031 grants the military the power to arrest and detain foreigners on US soil. Then 1032 expands the power to include US citizens. It was apparently hoped that section 1032 would go completely unnoticed.

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    Levin, McCain, and Graham say only legitimate "terrorists" will be arrested and detained by the military. However, that assumes that the current or any future president does not abuse the power.



    OMFG these pieces of fucking shit. I hope Obama can VETO it.
     
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    The terrorists have won.

    The people of the US live in an almost constant state of fear, and this bill is just one of many to pop up showing the ugly monster that lives beneath the veil.
     
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    it appears Jim DeMint and the Republicans did the RIGHT THING thing in rejecting the ACLU's/Udall's (D-CO)/Obama's sleight-of-hand amendment...

    an amendment which would have repealed Section 1032 which actually exempts U.S. citizens....and potentially given the president/congress the power to actually detain U.S. citizens....


     
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    Hurray police state!

    I remember the old conservative rhetoric, "If you don't have anything to hide there's no problem." which was completely ridiculous and wrong.
     
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    Notice how it is THE DEMOCRATS who are doing the pushing for a police state.....and the Republicans who stopped them....

    ....one can't believe every thread title one reads....
     
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    Um... if McCain helped draft the legislation, why would he vote against it?
     
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    good question...:lol:

    there is the original legislation.....

    and the amendment which failed.....McCain voted against the sneaky amendment....

    tricky stuff...the ACLU is VERY tricky....
     
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