Japan was ready to surrender, we didn't need to drop The Bomb

[M14 Shooter]

"Japan was ready to surrender, we didn't need to drop The Bomb"
I hear this a lot, with any number of people and organizations making the case that Japan was ready to give up.
Examples:
japan ewas ready to surrender - Google Search

Two questions for those of you who hold this position:
Why did Japan not surrender prior to 6 August 1945?
Why did Japan announce its surrender on 15 August 1945?

 

[candycorn]

Total nonsense.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Total nonsense.

The position that Japan was ready to surrender? I agree.

 

[Meathead]

Surely the OP has Japan confused with France.

 

[xyz]

Uh, o.k.

Explain why the second bomb was necessary. That is a much better question.

 

[Meathead]

Uh, o.k.

Explain why the second bomb was necessary. That is a much better question.

Easy. Lack of peace overture from Japan. The second bomb broke the "camel's back".

 

[M14 Shooter]

Uh, o.k.
Explain why the second bomb was necessary. That is a much better question.

I don't see your answers to my questions.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Uh, o.k.

Explain why the second bomb was necessary. That is a much better question.

Easy. Lack of peace overture from Japan. The second bomb broke the "camel's back".

Indeed. Japan could have surrendered at any time, but did not.

 

[Moonglow]

The Japanese were not ready to surrender because of the occupation of China..They felt that they had not been totally defeated, and their belief in bushido, gave them the impression that surrender was unacceptable....
They surrender not only because of the atomic bomb, but because Russia had invaded Manchurian when going to war on August 9th, 1945....

 

[M14 Shooter]

The Japanese were not ready to surrender because of the occupation of China..They felt that they had not been totally defeated, and their belief in bushido, gave them the impression that surrender was unacceptable....
They surrender not only because of the atomic bomb, but because Russia had invaded Manchurian when going to war on August 9th, 1945....

While it is true the USSR invaded Manchuria on August 8 and were surely able to take it, if the Japanese were "defeated" and "ready to surrender" prior to August 6th, it was completely and fully the hands of the US/UK and other PTO/CBI allies - that is, neither holding nor losing Manchuria had any effect on their "defeated" status..

 

[GLASNOST]

Uh, o.k.
Explain why the second bomb was necessary. That is a much better question.

I don't see your answers to my questions.

XYZ's question was relevant, yours were just childish.

 

[Moonglow]

The Japanese were not ready to surrender because of the occupation of China..They felt that they had not been totally defeated, and their belief in bushido, gave them the impression that surrender was unacceptable....
They surrender not only because of the atomic bomb, but because Russia had invaded Manchurian when going to war on August 9th, 1945....

While it is true the USSR invaded Manchuria on August 8 and were surely able to take it, if the Japanese were "defeated" and "ready to surrender" prior to August 6th, it was completely and fully the hands of the US/UK and other PTO/CBI allies - that is, neither holding nor losing Manchuria had any effect on their "defeated" status..

There was an attempted coup by the military elites to continue the war to the last man....But it failed and the Emperor made the decision to end the war before Japan was totally destroyed...

 

[Meathead]

Securing the total surrender of Japan to the US without an invasion was a top priority. Truman had an option and he used it and history has vindicated him. Waiting would have additionally factored in Soviet influence and might have led to the partition of Japan as it did Germany. The lives lost were mere pittance compared to other scenarios.

 

[Meathead]

Uh, o.k.
Explain why the second bomb was necessary. That is a much better question.

I don't see your answers to my questions.

XYZ's question was relevant, yours were just childish.

An asshole with your avatar should bring up childishness.

 

[GLASNOST]

Uh, o.k.
Explain why the second bomb was necessary. That is a much better question.

I don't see your answers to my questions.

XYZ's question was relevant, yours were just childish.

An asshole with your avatar should bring up childishness.

Thanks for sharing.

 

[miketx]

"Japan was ready to surrender, we didn't need to drop The Bomb"
I hear this a lot, with any number of people and organizations making the case that Japan was ready to give up.
Examples:
japan ewas ready to surrender - Google Search

Two questions for those of you who hold this position:
Why did Japan not surrender prior to 6 August 1945?
Why did Japan announce its surrender on 15 August 1945?

Total liberal revisionist douche sucking bullshit. Those jap bastards surrendered after they had to, After we nuked their sorry deserving asses.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The Japanese were not ready to surrender because of the occupation of China..They felt that they had not been totally defeated, and their belief in bushido, gave them the impression that surrender was unacceptable....
They surrender not only because of the atomic bomb, but because Russia had invaded Manchurian when going to war on August 9th, 1945....

While it is true the USSR invaded Manchuria on August 8 and were surely able to take it, if the Japanese were "defeated" and "ready to surrender" prior to August 6th, it was completely and fully the hands of the US/UK and other PTO/CBI allies - that is, neither holding nor losing Manchuria had any effect on their "defeated" status..

There was an attempted coup by the military elites to continue the war to the last man....But it failed and the Emperor made the decision to end the war before Japan was totally destroyed...

Correct. The "conversation" in the Japanese government revolved around the use of nuclear weapons; as far as I know, the Soviet invasion of Manchuria was not mentioned.

In essence, the debate in Imperial Japan after the Nagasaki raid was over how fast they could surrender and what terms they could get, if any.

 

[GLASNOST]

A--n--y---w---a---y ...... Japan was working on a bomb of their own, to drop on the US. When Hitler knew the war was lost, he sent his bomb-making surplus to Japan so that they could carry on the fight. But when Adolf took the bullet the acting leader Dörnitz ordered all naval vessels to surrender - this included the shipment that was in the Atlantic on its way to Japan. Surrender they did .... handing everything over to the Americans. This, boys and girls, is how the US was able to drop the bomb earlier than planned. Japan got that shipment from Hitler after all ..... in the form of kaboom!

 

[Syriusly]

The Japanese were not ready to surrender because of the occupation of China..They felt that they had not been totally defeated, and their belief in bushido, gave them the impression that surrender was unacceptable....
They surrender not only because of the atomic bomb, but because Russia had invaded Manchurian when going to war on August 9th, 1945....

While it is true the USSR invaded Manchuria on August 8 and were surely able to take it, if the Japanese were "defeated" and "ready to surrender" prior to August 6th, it was completely and fully the hands of the US/UK and other PTO/CBI allies - that is, neither holding nor losing Manchuria had any effect on their "defeated" status..

There was an attempted coup by the military elites to continue the war to the last man....But it failed and the Emperor made the decision to end the war before Japan was totally destroyed...

Correct. The "conversation" in the Japanese government revolved around the use of nuclear weapons; as far as I know, the Soviet invasion of Manchuria was not mentioned.

In essence, the debate in Imperial Japan after the Nagasaki raid was over how fast they could surrender and what terms they could get, if any.

There was still a debate after Nagasaki- but the Emperor made up his mind- but it was a military government- and elements of the military preferred to fight to the last Japanese. The Emperor saved millions of Japanese lives by pushing for surrender.

Yes there are still those who want to argue about the decision, but the fact is that we do not know for certain what would have happened if we did not drop the bombs- but its likely millions more would have died.

We do know what did happen- which was that Japan surrendered, and is now a powerful and peaceful ally of the United States. And that is a good thing.

 

[Moonglow]

After Nagasaki, the US had no more atomic bombs..A rather dicey position...