Israeli-Palestinian Confederation?

[toastman]

ok that's a cute idea it merely means that if both Israel and ----those other guys agree to something----they can do it thru this cute little device of a kind of faux parliament

You could think about running, Irosie. They might even make you PM and George your water bearer.

Can you wrap your mind around the idea of Arabs in Gaza and Hebron communicating with a Jew in Tel-Aviv discussing solutions to their dilemma that benefits all of them?

Lets get one think straight. There will NEVER be peace until Hamas DISARMS themselves and recognizes Israel .

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

You could think about running, Irosie. They might even make you PM and George your water bearer.

Can you wrap your mind around the idea of Arabs in Gaza and Hebron communicating with a Jew in Tel-Aviv discussing solutions to their dilemma that benefits all of them?

Lets get one think straight. There will NEVER be peace until Hamas DISARMS themselves and recognizes Israel .

toastman,

HaaHaHaHaHa

You are so funny, playing God here, like that!

It's God's will that will be done, not the will of Zionists or their enablers.

We do not live in a world where Israel is God!

How about Israel disarming, stopping their civilian slaughters of Gentiles, and recognizing Palestine?

Sherri

 

[Hossfly]

Pax Semitica or Israel without Zionism may be an idea whose time has come.

Uri Avnery has been writing about this for decades.
Maybe he's been right all along?

Somebody should have advised Moses of this information.

Do you still believe in Santa Claus too?

"The existence of Moses as well as the veracity of the Exodus story is disputed amongst archaeologists and Egyptologists, with experts in the field of biblical criticism citing logical inconsistencies, new archaeological evidence, historical evidence, and related origin myths in Canaanite culture.[3][4][5]

"Other historians maintain that the biographical details, and Egyptian background, attributed to Moses imply the existence of a historical political and religious leader who was involved in the consolidation of the Hebrew tribes in Canaan towards the end of the Bronze Age."

How many virgins did your "prophet" earn?

Moses - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I believe the Scriptures and I also believe your "Prophet'' was a chicken raper.

 

[P F Tinmore]

From the New York Times:

"An initiative to establish an Israeli-Palestinian confederation and joint parliament was publicized Monday with a full page advertisement in the New York Times, aimed at recruiting 1,500 parliamentary candidates from both sides of the conflict.

"The initiative was launched by Israeli-born lawyer Josef Avesar, a California resident, and has been endorsed by former Israeli foreign minister Shlomo Ben Ami and Palestinian peace activist and National Council member Hanna Siniora .

"Elections for a planned joint Israeli-Palestinian parliament are to be held on December 12, and the Confederation’s website allows Israeli and Palestinians over the age of 21 to submit their candidacy for parliament member or president.

"The parliament is to include 300 members, elected by 300 voting districts encompassing Israel and the Palestinian territories. Candidates must declare online 'under penalty of perjury' that they are residents 'of Israel or Palestine.'

"The joint parliament is not intended to replace the existing Israeli and Palestinian legislatures, organizers explain, but rather help bridge the gap between the sides.

"According to the parliament’s constitution, legislation can only pass with the consent of both sides."

New York Times ad seeks candidates for joint Israeli-Palestinian parliament | The Times of Israel

"According to the parliament’s constitution, legislation can only pass with the consent of both sides."

IOW, they will not accomplish jack shit.

 

[georgephillip]

Somebody should have advised Moses of this information.

Do you still believe in Santa Claus too?

"The existence of Moses as well as the veracity of the Exodus story is disputed amongst archaeologists and Egyptologists, with experts in the field of biblical criticism citing logical inconsistencies, new archaeological evidence, historical evidence, and related origin myths in Canaanite culture.[3][4][5]

"Other historians maintain that the biographical details, and Egyptian background, attributed to Moses imply the existence of a historical political and religious leader who was involved in the consolidation of the Hebrew tribes in Canaan towards the end of the Bronze Age."

How many virgins did your "prophet" earn?

Moses - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I believe the Scriptures and I also believe your "Prophet'' was a chicken raper.

If your definition of "prophet" includes telling truth about power, here's one of my candidates:

"'Anyone who wants to rule men first tries to humiliate them, to trick them out of their rights and their capacity for resistance, until they are as powerless before him as animals,' wrote Elias Canetti in 'Crowds and Power.'

“'He uses them like animals and, even if he does not tell them so, in himself he always knows quite clearly that they mean just as little to him; when he speaks to his intimates he will call them sheep or cattle."

Chris Hedges: The S&M Election - Chris Hedges' Columns - Truthdig

 

[Hossfly]

Do you still believe in Santa Claus too?

"The existence of Moses as well as the veracity of the Exodus story is disputed amongst archaeologists and Egyptologists, with experts in the field of biblical criticism citing logical inconsistencies, new archaeological evidence, historical evidence, and related origin myths in Canaanite culture.[3][4][5]

"Other historians maintain that the biographical details, and Egyptian background, attributed to Moses imply the existence of a historical political and religious leader who was involved in the consolidation of the Hebrew tribes in Canaan towards the end of the Bronze Age."

How many virgins did your "prophet" earn?

Moses - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I believe the Scriptures and I also believe your "Prophet'' was a chicken raper.

If your definition of "prophet" includes telling truth about power, here's one of my candidates:

"'Anyone who wants to rule men first tries to humiliate them, to trick them out of their rights and their capacity for resistance, until they are as powerless before him as animals,' wrote Elias Canetti in 'Crowds and Power.'

“'He uses them like animals and, even if he does not tell them so, in himself he always knows quite clearly that they mean just as little to him; when he speaks to his intimates he will call them sheep or cattle."

Chris Hedges: The S&M Election - Chris Hedges' Columns - Truthdig

WTF are you blathering about now?

 

[georgephillip]

From the New York Times:

"An initiative to establish an Israeli-Palestinian confederation and joint parliament was publicized Monday with a full page advertisement in the New York Times, aimed at recruiting 1,500 parliamentary candidates from both sides of the conflict.

"The initiative was launched by Israeli-born lawyer Josef Avesar, a California resident, and has been endorsed by former Israeli foreign minister Shlomo Ben Ami and Palestinian peace activist and National Council member Hanna Siniora .

"Elections for a planned joint Israeli-Palestinian parliament are to be held on December 12, and the Confederation’s website allows Israeli and Palestinians over the age of 21 to submit their candidacy for parliament member or president.

"The parliament is to include 300 members, elected by 300 voting districts encompassing Israel and the Palestinian territories. Candidates must declare online 'under penalty of perjury' that they are residents 'of Israel or Palestine.'

"The joint parliament is not intended to replace the existing Israeli and Palestinian legislatures, organizers explain, but rather help bridge the gap between the sides.

"According to the parliament’s constitution, legislation can only pass with the consent of both sides."

New York Times ad seeks candidates for joint Israeli-Palestinian parliament | The Times of Israel

"According to the parliament’s constitution, legislation can only pass with the consent of both sides."

IOW, they will not accomplish jack shit.

In the short term, you are probably right.
However, something has to break the two-state/one-state (false) dichotomy...
From the Israeli Palestinian Confederation Constitution:

"We believe that the creation of a confederation is consistent with the aspirations of the peoples of Palestine and Israel. The Israeli Palestinian Confederation does not intend to supersede or supplant the Palestinian or Israeli governments, nor to abrogate or undermine any agreements between those governments.

"We believe that the principles stated above will be achieved through the facilities of a mutual confederation, dedicated to fair representation of both the Israeli and the Palestinian peoples, and dedicated to achieving consensus through confederation principles."

Obviously, nothing will change in Palestine, the Pentagon, or on Wall Street as long as millions of US voters continue "choosing" between Democrat OR Republican in the voting booth.

Israeli Palestinian Confederation - Constitution

 

[georgephillip]

I believe the Scriptures and I also believe your "Prophet'' was a chicken raper.

If your definition of "prophet" includes telling truth about power, here's one of my candidates:

"'Anyone who wants to rule men first tries to humiliate them, to trick them out of their rights and their capacity for resistance, until they are as powerless before him as animals,' wrote Elias Canetti in 'Crowds and Power.'

“'He uses them like animals and, even if he does not tell them so, in himself he always knows quite clearly that they mean just as little to him; when he speaks to his intimates he will call them sheep or cattle."

Chris Hedges: The S&M Election - Chris Hedges' Columns - Truthdig

WTF are you blathering about now?

Equality...something foreign to most US conservatives.

"Our masters rely on our labor to make them wealthy, on our children for cannon fodder in war and on our collective chants for adulation. They would otherwise happily slip us rat poison. When they retreat into their inner sanctums, which they keep hidden from public view, they speak in the cold words of manipulation, power and privilege, words that expose their visions of themselves as entitled and beyond the reach of morality or law."

Chris Hedges: The S&M Election - Chris Hedges' Columns - Truthdig

 

[irosie91]

note sherri claims jews are enagaged in programs of "MURDERING GENTILES" gee----sherri claims to be a "christian" ie from a creed responsible for genocide in the scores of millions and supports the islamic genocides of hindus and christians and jews and zoroastrians in the HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS----- she has no evidence that jews ever engaged in any genocide at all------yet JESUS TOLD HER TO SPIT OUT SOME SHIT ABOUT 'its jews doing the killing" Well---of course the sherris of the world claim jews also created the bubonic plague---and earth quakes--etc etc-----jesus told her what else did jesus tell you, sherri?

 

[SAYIT]

From the New York Times:

"An initiative to establish an Israeli-Palestinian confederation and joint parliament was publicized Monday with a full page advertisement in the New York Times, aimed at recruiting 1,500 parliamentary candidates from both sides of the conflict.

"The initiative was launched by Israeli-born lawyer Josef Avesar, a California resident, and has been endorsed by former Israeli foreign minister Shlomo Ben Ami and Palestinian peace activist and National Council member Hanna Siniora .

"Elections for a planned joint Israeli-Palestinian parliament are to be held on December 12, and the Confederation’s website allows Israeli and Palestinians over the age of 21 to submit their candidacy for parliament member or president.

"The parliament is to include 300 members, elected by 300 voting districts encompassing Israel and the Palestinian territories. Candidates must declare online 'under penalty of perjury' that they are residents 'of Israel or Palestine.'

"The joint parliament is not intended to replace the existing Israeli and Palestinian legislatures, organizers explain, but rather help bridge the gap between the sides.

"According to the parliament’s constitution, legislation can only pass with the consent of both sides."

New York Times ad seeks candidates for joint Israeli-Palestinian parliament | The Times of Israel

"According to the parliament’s constitution, legislation can only pass with the consent of both sides."

IOW, they will not accomplish jack shit.

Probably, yet it is an attempt to "bridge the gap" which, naturally, annoys the piss out of you.
You will notice it was an Israeli who proposed it.

 

[SAYIT]

If your definition of "prophet" includes telling truth about power, here's one of my candidates:

"'Anyone who wants to rule men first tries to humiliate them, to trick them out of their rights and their capacity for resistance, until they are as powerless before him as animals,' wrote Elias Canetti in 'Crowds and Power.'

“'He uses them like animals and, even if he does not tell them so, in himself he always knows quite clearly that they mean just as little to him; when he speaks to his intimates he will call them sheep or cattle."

Chris Hedges: The S&M Election - Chris Hedges' Columns - Truthdig

WTF are you blathering about now?

Equality...something foreign to most US conservatives.

"Our masters rely on our labor to make them wealthy...]"

Chris Hedges: The S&M Election - Chris Hedges' Columns - Truthdig

Typical childish nonsense from one who identifies himself as a "socialist" in contrast to what he sees as "ruthless totalitarian capitalism." Not surprised you would quote him.

 

[eots]

JUST WHEN IT COULD NOT GET ANY MORE DELUDED OUR 45 TH PRESIDENT HAS SOME NEWS FOR YOU

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9XK9mwFZks]New Jerusalem Upon This Land - YouTube[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

From the New York Times:

"An initiative to establish an Israeli-Palestinian confederation and joint parliament was publicized Monday with a full page advertisement in the New York Times, aimed at recruiting 1,500 parliamentary candidates from both sides of the conflict.

"The initiative was launched by Israeli-born lawyer Josef Avesar, a California resident, and has been endorsed by former Israeli foreign minister Shlomo Ben Ami and Palestinian peace activist and National Council member Hanna Siniora .

"Elections for a planned joint Israeli-Palestinian parliament are to be held on December 12, and the Confederation’s website allows Israeli and Palestinians over the age of 21 to submit their candidacy for parliament member or president.

"The parliament is to include 300 members, elected by 300 voting districts encompassing Israel and the Palestinian territories. Candidates must declare online 'under penalty of perjury' that they are residents 'of Israel or Palestine.'

"The joint parliament is not intended to replace the existing Israeli and Palestinian legislatures, organizers explain, but rather help bridge the gap between the sides.

"According to the parliament’s constitution, legislation can only pass with the consent of both sides."

New York Times ad seeks candidates for joint Israeli-Palestinian parliament | The Times of Israel

"According to the parliament’s constitution, legislation can only pass with the consent of both sides."

IOW, they will not accomplish jack shit.

Probably, yet it is an attempt to "bridge the gap" which, naturally, annoys the piss out of you.
You will notice it was an Israeli who proposed it.

Bridging the gap, so to speak, is not the problem. On the person to person level there is a lot in common between the Israeli people and the Palestinian people.

The problem is with Israeli policy. Nobody can change that but Israel.

 

[SAYIT]

IOW, they will not accomplish jack shit.

Probably, yet it is an attempt to "bridge the gap" which, naturally, annoys the piss out of you.
You will notice it was an Israeli who proposed it.

Bridging the gap, so to speak, is not the problem. On the person to person level there is a lot in common between the Israeli people and the Palestinian people.

The problem is with Israeli policy. Nobody can change that but Israel.

No Princess, you are the problem. You care little about the plight of those you pretend to defend and lose it at the very thought of cooperation between the conflicted parties.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Probably, yet it is an attempt to "bridge the gap" which, naturally, annoys the piss out of you.
You will notice it was an Israeli who proposed it.

Bridging the gap, so to speak, is not the problem. On the person to person level there is a lot in common between the Israeli people and the Palestinian people.

The problem is with Israeli policy. Nobody can change that but Israel.

No Princess, you are the problem. You care little about the plight of those you pretend to defend and lose it at the very thought of cooperation between the conflicted parties.

Not really.

Most Israelis are cool.

Most Palestinians are cool.

It is Israel that sucks.

 

[georgephillip]

Uri Avneri -----is a typical israeli phenomenon------in fact a typical jewish phenomenon he engages in mental auto eroticism -----because it makes him feel smart---which would make his mother smile

"Avnery was born in Beckum, Germany as Helmut Ostermann, to a well-established German Jewish family. Avnery and his family emigrated to Palestine in 1933, following Adolf Hitler's rise to power..."

"He joined the Irgun, a Zionist paramilitary group, in 1938[4] but, unlike his comrade-in-arms, Yitzhak Shamir who joined up at roughly the same time, was judged too young to engage in action,[5] and wrote for some of their internal publications..."

"He left the Irgun in 1942[4] after becoming disenchanted with their tactics, stating in a 2003 interview that, 'I didn't like the methods of terror applied by the Irgun at the time', noting he did not back killing people in retaliation for similar acts by the Arabs..."

"Avnery's early political thought was influenced by Canaanism; in 1947 he proposed a union of the countries in the 'Semitic region': Palestine, Transjordan, Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq."

Uri's a prophet.
You're a slut.
Smile where you were mother-fucked last.

Uri Avnery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[georgephillip]

WTF are you blathering about now?

Equality...something foreign to most US conservatives.

"Our masters rely on our labor to make them wealthy...]"

Chris Hedges: The S&M Election - Chris Hedges' Columns - Truthdig

Typical childish nonsense from one who identifies himself as a "socialist" in contrast to what he sees as "ruthless totalitarian capitalism." Not surprised you would quote him.

"The recovery that officially began in mid-2009 hasn’t arrived in most Americans’ paychecks. In 2010, the top 1 percent of U.S. families captured as much as 93 percent of the nation’s income growth, according to a March paper by Emmanuel Saez, a University of California at Berkeley economist who studied Internal Revenue Service data."

Top 1% Got 93% of Income Growth as Rich-Poor Gap Widened in U.S.

I'm not surprised you are still swallowing every Wall Street load.
Do you think it will all get better when Mitt moves in?

 

[georgephillip]

JUST WHEN IT COULD NOT GET ANY MORE DELUDED OUR 45 TH PRESIDENT HAS SOME NEWS FOR YOU

New Jerusalem Upon This Land - YouTube

Mitt the Mormon should get the same treatment Obama received for his religious affiliation.
Maybe Mitt can clear up the False Witness?

"Two groups of witnesses supposedly saw the translation of the Book of Mormon, yet they were all excommunicated after disagreements with Smith. It seems the first group of three witnesses found it too much of a hoax to stay in the church after witnessing this, so a second group needed to be found.

"These eight men signed statements claiming to have seen and handled the golden plates, though it was later revealed that they hadn’t actually done so. In other words, Smith forced them to lie about seeing the plates."

Maybe another rich, gutless, lying Christian draft dodger in the White House is exactly what the US needs right now?

 

[docmauser1]

Can you wrap your mind around the idea of Arabs in Gaza and Hebron communicating with a Jew in Tel-Aviv discussing solutions to their dilemma that benefits all of them?

In memorable words of Basam Tibbi "The dialogue is not proceeding well because of the two-facedness of most Muslim interlocutors on the one hand and the gullibility of well-meaning Western idealists on the other.". Doh.

 

[georgephillip]

Can you wrap your mind around the idea of Arabs in Gaza and Hebron communicating with a Jew in Tel-Aviv discussing solutions to their dilemma that benefits all of them?

In memorable words of Basam Tibbi "The dialogue is not proceeding well because of the two-facedness of most Muslim interlocutors on the one hand and the gullibility of well-meaning Western idealists on the other.". Doh.

Have you been "talking" to Sharon again?
When is that old, lying pig going to die?
Maybe you can catch a ride...