Israel Violating US Sanctions on Russia?

[irosie91]

just about anything can "cause cancer"------drinking whiskey has been associated
with cancer of the esophagus. Islamic style circumcision has been associated
with increased risk of penile cancer as compared to jewish style circumcision----
the date actually got compiled in Saudi Arabia.

GERD (gastro esophageal reflux disease-----aka heartburn---that
burning sensation that hits after the second slice of pizza) is associated
with ----BARRETT's esophagus------considered and demonstrated
to be a PRE CANCER condition of the esophagus------
A diet low in fiber------is associated with COLONIC CANCER Lets
us all hope that the Palestinians do not stop eating choumous

I forgot what cell phones do----glioblastoma of the brain?

 

[Sally]

just about anything can "cause cancer"------drinking whiskey has been associated
with cancer of the esophagus. Islamic style circumcision has been associated
with increased risk of penile cancer as compared to jewish style circumcision----
the date actually got compiled in Saudi Arabia.

GERD (gastro esophageal reflux disease-----aka heartburn---that
burning sensation that hits after the second slice of pizza) is associated
with ----BARRETT's esophagus------considered and demonstrated
to be a PRE CANCER condition of the esophagus------
A diet low in fiber------is associated with COLONIC CANCER Lets
us all hope that the Palestinians do not stop eating choumous

I forgot what cell phones do----glioblastoma of the brain?

You will notice that Gaza George and his new chum never brought up the chemical weapons that Assad used on his own people. I guess since Assad wasn't Jewish, he got a pass from these two chimps. Meanwhile, you have to laugh at these two characterters. Here they are on the Middle East forum and only appear to be interested in the Middle East if they can drag the Jews into what is happening. Tens of thousands of people have been killed by other Arabs, but since they can't blame the Jews for this, it is just another ho hum for them.

 

[Sally]

"The U.S. Department of Defense claims that no human cancer of any type has been seen as a result of exposure to either natural or depleted uranium.[75]

"Militaries have long had risk-reduction procedures for their troops to follow,[76] and studies are in consistent agreement that veterans who used DU-enhanced munitions have not suffered, so far, from an increased risk of cancer (see the Gulf War and Balkans sections below).

"The effects of DU on civilian populations are, however, a topic of intense and ongoing controversy.

"As early as 1997, British Army doctors warned the British MoD (Ministry of Defence) that exposure to depleted uranium increased the risk of developing lung, lymph and brain cancer, and recommended a series of safety precautions.[77]

"According to a report issued summarizing the advice of the doctors, 'Inhalation of insoluble uranium dioxide dust will lead to accumulation in the lungs with very slow clearance—if any. … Although chemical toxicity is low, there may be localised radiation damage of the lung leading to cancer.'

"The report warns that 'All personnel … should be aware that uranium dust inhalation carries a long-term risk … [the dust] has been shown to increase the risks of developing lung, lymph and brain cancers.'"[77]

Depleted uranium - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

I really hope that uranium didn't get dropped on to the Palestinians. That's got to be a war crime if many of the Palestinians get cancer. I BELIEVE THE BRITISH DOCTORS THAT SAID URANIUM CAN CAUSE LUNG CANCER AND BLOOD AND BRAIN CANCER. THAT'S PROBABLY WHY NETANYAHU DROPPED IT ON THEM. TO GET THEM SICK, THEN DIE FROM IT. That's his plan. To free up water resources. Less resistance to his IDF army. That's a war crime.

What do you make of Abbas?

"He's a longtime Israeli collaborator. He performs enforcer services. He conspires against his own people.

"He's a Palestinian Judas. He belongs in prison, not high office.

"He's well rewarded. He's hugely corrupt.

"He amassed an huge fortune. He did so the old-fashioned way. Betrayal pays well. Palestinian suffering continues.

"Abbas shares blame with Israel. He collaborates with the enemy. He's done so for decades. A previous article said he knew about Operation Cast Lead in advance.

"He supported it. He asked Israel to crush Hamas. What did he know and when about Operation Protective Edge?

"Why didn't he forthrightly denounce it? Why didn't he immediately sign the Rome Statute?

Is the PA obstructing a probe of Israel latest war crimes in Gaza?

Abbas Blocks Israeli War Crimes Investigation

Gaza George, you are still not fooling any rational viewers. Do you actually believe that they think you are about the Palestinian Arabs when there are so many other Arabs who have been killed in other places in the Middle East and many more are suffering greatly, and not a word has been typed about them by you. One would think that you could at least fake it and type a few things now and then about what is happening to the suffering people in at least Syria and Iraq.

 

[Forester]

"


.

What do you make of Abbas?

"He's a longtime Israeli collaborator. He performs enforcer services. He conspires against his own people.

"He's a Palestinian Judas. He belongs in prison, not high office.

"He's well rewarded. He's hugely corrupt.

"He amassed an huge fortune. He did so the old-fashioned way. Betrayal pays well. Palestinian suffering continues.

"Abbas shares blame with Israel. He collaborates with the enemy. He's done so for decades. A previous article said he knew about Operation Cast Lead in advance.

"He supported it. He asked Israel to crush Hamas. What did he know and when about Operation Protective Edge?

"Why didn't he forthrightly denounce it? Why didn't he immediately sign the Rome Statute?

Is the PA obstructing a probe of Israel latest war crimes in Gaza?

Abbas Blocks Israeli War Crimes Investigation

With friends like Abbas, who needs enemies? I guess the Palestinians are going to have to wait even longer to get any justice, with Abbas stonewalling.
He's pretty old. Maybe somebody effective will step up to help with the Palestinians long suffering plight. They really could use a lucky break right about now.
Maybe after ISIS is defeated the M.E. will calm down, allowing the world to focus on the Palestinians' crisis. I don't want Israel using the Palestinians for target practice anymore.

 

[georgephillip]

"


.

What do you make of Abbas?

"He's a longtime Israeli collaborator. He performs enforcer services. He conspires against his own people.

"He's a Palestinian Judas. He belongs in prison, not high office.

"He's well rewarded. He's hugely corrupt.

"He amassed an huge fortune. He did so the old-fashioned way. Betrayal pays well. Palestinian suffering continues.

"Abbas shares blame with Israel. He collaborates with the enemy. He's done so for decades. A previous article said he knew about Operation Cast Lead in advance.

"He supported it. He asked Israel to crush Hamas. What did he know and when about Operation Protective Edge?

"Why didn't he forthrightly denounce it? Why didn't he immediately sign the Rome Statute?

Is the PA obstructing a probe of Israel latest war crimes in Gaza?

Abbas Blocks Israeli War Crimes Investigation

With friends like Abbas, who needs enemies? I guess the Palestinians are going to have to wait even longer to get any justice, with Abbas stonewalling.
He's pretty old. Maybe somebody effective will step up to help with the Palestinians long suffering plight. They really could use a lucky break right about now.
Maybe after ISIS is defeated the M.E. will calm down, allowing the world to focus on the Palestinians' crisis. I don't want Israel using the Palestinians for target practice anymore.

What if it's not in the "National Interest" of the US for the ME to (ever) calm down? For over four decades the US has been arming, training, and supporting some of the most violent elements of radical Islam they could find. The only way to lower the level of violence in that part of the world begins with cutting off arms sales there; the US is the worlds leading arms seller. Based on history, once IS is subdued the US will have already set up its next proxy threat to "National Security,"

 

[georgephillip]

"The U.S. Department of Defense claims that no human cancer of any type has been seen as a result of exposure to either natural or depleted uranium.[75]

"Militaries have long had risk-reduction procedures for their troops to follow,[76] and studies are in consistent agreement that veterans who used DU-enhanced munitions have not suffered, so far, from an increased risk of cancer (see the Gulf War and Balkans sections below).

"The effects of DU on civilian populations are, however, a topic of intense and ongoing controversy.

"As early as 1997, British Army doctors warned the British MoD (Ministry of Defence) that exposure to depleted uranium increased the risk of developing lung, lymph and brain cancer, and recommended a series of safety precautions.[77]

"According to a report issued summarizing the advice of the doctors, 'Inhalation of insoluble uranium dioxide dust will lead to accumulation in the lungs with very slow clearance—if any. … Although chemical toxicity is low, there may be localised radiation damage of the lung leading to cancer.'

"The report warns that 'All personnel … should be aware that uranium dust inhalation carries a long-term risk … [the dust] has been shown to increase the risks of developing lung, lymph and brain cancers.'"[77]

Depleted uranium - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

I really hope that uranium didn't get dropped on to the Palestinians. That's got to be a war crime if many of the Palestinians get cancer. I BELIEVE THE BRITISH DOCTORS THAT SAID URANIUM CAN CAUSE LUNG CANCER AND BLOOD AND BRAIN CANCER. THAT'S PROBABLY WHY NETANYAHU DROPPED IT ON THEM. TO GET THEM SICK, THEN DIE FROM IT. That's his plan. To free up water resources. Less resistance to his IDF army. That's a war crime.

What do you make of Abbas?

"He's a longtime Israeli collaborator. He performs enforcer services. He conspires against his own people.

"He's a Palestinian Judas. He belongs in prison, not high office.

"He's well rewarded. He's hugely corrupt.

"He amassed an huge fortune. He did so the old-fashioned way. Betrayal pays well. Palestinian suffering continues.

"Abbas shares blame with Israel. He collaborates with the enemy. He's done so for decades. A previous article said he knew about Operation Cast Lead in advance.

"He supported it. He asked Israel to crush Hamas. What did he know and when about Operation Protective Edge?

"Why didn't he forthrightly denounce it? Why didn't he immediately sign the Rome Statute?

Is the PA obstructing a probe of Israel latest war crimes in Gaza?

Abbas Blocks Israeli War Crimes Investigation

Gaza George, you are still not fooling any rational viewers. Do you actually believe that they think you are about the Palestinian Arabs when there are so many other Arabs who have been killed in other places in the Middle East and many more are suffering greatly, and not a word has been typed about them by you. One would think that you could at least fake it and type a few things now and then about what is happening to the suffering people in at least Syria and Iraq.

Read more Marx:

"The tinder of revolt is piling up.

"No person or movement can ignite this tinder. No one knows when the eruption will take place.

"No one knows what form it will take.

"But it is certain that a popular revolt is coming.

"The refusal by the corporate state to address even the minimal grievances of the citizenry, the continued pillaging of the nation and the ecosystem, remind us that, as Karl Marx pointed out, unregulated, unfettered capitalism is a revolutionary force. It commodifies everything. Human beings and the natural world become commodities that are exploited until exhaustion or collapse..."

"The corporate state—a system described by the political philosopher Sheldon Wolin as 'inverted totalitarianism'—is incapable of a rational response to the crisis.

"A rational response, especially after your uprising in Madison and the Occupy movement, would at a minimum include a moratorium on all foreclosures and bank repossessions, a forgiveness of student debt, universal health care for all and a massive jobs program, especially targeted at those under the age of 25.

"But the corporate state, by mounting a coordinated federal effort led by Barack Obama to shut down the Occupy encampments, illustrated that the only language it will speak is the language of force.

Chris Hedges Sacrificing the Vulnerable From Gaza to America - Chris Hedges -Truthdig

 

[Sally]

"The U.S. Department of Defense claims that no human cancer of any type has been seen as a result of exposure to either natural or depleted uranium.[75]

"Militaries have long had risk-reduction procedures for their troops to follow,[76] and studies are in consistent agreement that veterans who used DU-enhanced munitions have not suffered, so far, from an increased risk of cancer (see the Gulf War and Balkans sections below).

"The effects of DU on civilian populations are, however, a topic of intense and ongoing controversy.

"As early as 1997, British Army doctors warned the British MoD (Ministry of Defence) that exposure to depleted uranium increased the risk of developing lung, lymph and brain cancer, and recommended a series of safety precautions.[77]

"According to a report issued summarizing the advice of the doctors, 'Inhalation of insoluble uranium dioxide dust will lead to accumulation in the lungs with very slow clearance—if any. … Although chemical toxicity is low, there may be localised radiation damage of the lung leading to cancer.'

"The report warns that 'All personnel … should be aware that uranium dust inhalation carries a long-term risk … [the dust] has been shown to increase the risks of developing lung, lymph and brain cancers.'"[77]

Depleted uranium - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

I really hope that uranium didn't get dropped on to the Palestinians. That's got to be a war crime if many of the Palestinians get cancer. I BELIEVE THE BRITISH DOCTORS THAT SAID URANIUM CAN CAUSE LUNG CANCER AND BLOOD AND BRAIN CANCER. THAT'S PROBABLY WHY NETANYAHU DROPPED IT ON THEM. TO GET THEM SICK, THEN DIE FROM IT. That's his plan. To free up water resources. Less resistance to his IDF army. That's a war crime.

What do you make of Abbas?

"He's a longtime Israeli collaborator. He performs enforcer services. He conspires against his own people.

"He's a Palestinian Judas. He belongs in prison, not high office.

"He's well rewarded. He's hugely corrupt.

"He amassed an huge fortune. He did so the old-fashioned way. Betrayal pays well. Palestinian suffering continues.

"Abbas shares blame with Israel. He collaborates with the enemy. He's done so for decades. A previous article said he knew about Operation Cast Lead in advance.

"He supported it. He asked Israel to crush Hamas. What did he know and when about Operation Protective Edge?

"Why didn't he forthrightly denounce it? Why didn't he immediately sign the Rome Statute?

Is the PA obstructing a probe of Israel latest war crimes in Gaza?

Abbas Blocks Israeli War Crimes Investigation

Gaza George, you are still not fooling any rational viewers. Do you actually believe that they think you are about the Palestinian Arabs when there are so many other Arabs who have been killed in other places in the Middle East and many more are suffering greatly, and not a word has been typed about them by you. One would think that you could at least fake it and type a few things now and then about what is happening to the suffering people in at least Syria and Iraq.

Read more Marx:

"The tinder of revolt is piling up.

"No person or movement can ignite this tinder. No one knows when the eruption will take place.

"No one knows what form it will take.

"But it is certain that a popular revolt is coming.

"The refusal by the corporate state to address even the minimal grievances of the citizenry, the continued pillaging of the nation and the ecosystem, remind us that, as Karl Marx pointed out, unregulated, unfettered capitalism is a revolutionary force. It commodifies everything. Human beings and the natural world become commodities that are exploited until exhaustion or collapse..."

"The corporate state—a system described by the political philosopher Sheldon Wolin as 'inverted totalitarianism'—is incapable of a rational response to the crisis.

"A rational response, especially after your uprising in Madison and the Occupy movement, would at a minimum include a moratorium on all foreclosures and bank repossessions, a forgiveness of student debt, universal health care for all and a massive jobs program, especially targeted at those under the age of 25.

"But the corporate state, by mounting a coordinated federal effort led by Barack Obama to shut down the Occupy encampments, illustrated that the only language it will speak is the language of force.

Chris Hedges Sacrificing the Vulnerable From Gaza to America - Chris Hedges -Truthdig

What a hoot Gaza George is!!! We know he is not really concerned about the Arabs since he never mentions the horrible things which happened and are still happening to them in the rest of the Middle East. You can post all you want to about Chris Hedges. If you weren't so lazy in your younger years, you wouldn't be pulling up this article now.

Strange (well it really isn't that strange) that Gaza George always is moaning about Capitalism when those who were living under Cummunism are happy to be free of that. There are probably those still living in Communist countries who would be willing to take Commie Gaza George's place here in America if they only had a chance. So many people are coming to this country, with many more hoping that some day they too will be able to attain their dream of living in America, but Commie Gaza George apparently can't stand to live here seeing that people who pushed themselves earned a good living and don't depend on the American taxpayer to help them get by in their later years. Since Gaza George doesn't live that far from Koreatown, he should take a nice walk down there and ask some of the North Koreans living there are they happy to be living under capitalism in the U.S. or would they prefer to be back in North Korea living under communism.

 

[irosie91]

SALLY help me out------if the US has sanctions on Russia-----how is ISRAEL
"violating" them??. Don't different countries do their own sanctions?

 

[Sally]

SALLY help me out------if the US has sanctions on Russia-----how is ISRAEL
"violating" them??. Don't different countries do their own sanctions?

I would think so since we have sanctions on Iran, bu yet other counries like India are working with Iran. One thing we have to remember is that 100 countries could be having dealings with Russia and Gaza George would not say a peep. It is only when his favorite scapegoats, the Jews, are involved, then he gets on his high horse. We also have to remember that Gaza George was trying to blame the Ukraine conflict on the Jews.

 

[irosie91]

SALLY help me out------if the US has sanctions on Russia-----how is ISRAEL
"violating" them??. Don't different countries do their own sanctions?

I would think so since we have sanctions on Iran, bu yet other counries like India are working with Iran. One thing we have to remember is that 100 countries could be having dealings with Russia and Gaza George would not say a peep. It is only when his favorite scapegoats, the Jews, are involved, then he gets on his high horse. We also have to remember that Gaza George was trying to blame the Ukraine conflict on the Jews.

Maybe Georgie is a closet COSSACK. Cossacks are very angry Ukrainians.
According to news on TV right now------the US is trying to get lots of countries
to SIGN up ---against Isis. ------since Isis is really a Zionist plot------maybe
Georgie will sign up

 

[georgephillip]

SALLY help me out------if the US has sanctions on Russia-----how is ISRAEL
"violating" them??. Don't different countries do their own sanctions?

"Actually, even before this assault on Gaza, there's been a steep decline in Israeli exports, especially to Europe. Some Israeli economists try to say, well, this is just because of the economic crisis inside Europe; it has nothing to do with political issues. But now we're seeing entire sectors of the Israeli economy that are suffering directly.

"So the sector that has probably suffered the most is the tourism sector. The tourism sector, they're not saying, we're being boycotted by people because of political opinions; they're saying people are afraid to go because of the war, and that's why we see so many cancellations and so many losses.

"But I think the agricultural sector, that's where we really see the impact very wide and very deep, because a lot of Israeli companies--there is an Israeli fruit company that produces fruit juice, and they were in negotiations with some European companies in Sweden, France, and Belgium to sell their juice in Europe, and these companies initially told them, you know, if you--just give us proof that you don't source your fruit from the occupied territory, that it doesn't come from the West Bank.

"But then they changed their tune and said, you know what? We don't want any kind of product that says 'Made in Israel'.

"That's obviously because of the boycott movement.

"And what these farmers do, what these agricultural companies do then is they try to seek, very desperately, other markets, because with agriculture you can't keep the goods forever. They're perishable goods. So their growing market now is Russia.

"Russia is under international sanctions because of the crisis in Ukraine, and there are Russian companies that are willing to buy these goods from Israel. But they're paying less. The prices are lower."

Ready for that big FLUSH?

Israeli Agribusiness Demanding Relief From Government as BDS Intensifies

 

[Sally]

SALLY help me out------if the US has sanctions on Russia-----how is ISRAEL
"violating" them??. Don't different countries do their own sanctions?

"Actually, even before this assault on Gaza, there's been a steep decline in Israeli exports, especially to Europe. Some Israeli economists try to say, well, this is just because of the economic crisis inside Europe; it has nothing to do with political issues. But now we're seeing entire sectors of the Israeli economy that are suffering directly.

"So the sector that has probably suffered the most is the tourism sector. The tourism sector, they're not saying, we're being boycotted by people because of political opinions; they're saying people are afraid to go because of the war, and that's why we see so many cancellations and so many losses.

"But I think the agricultural sector, that's where we really see the impact very wide and very deep, because a lot of Israeli companies--there is an Israeli fruit company that produces fruit juice, and they were in negotiations with some European companies in Sweden, France, and Belgium to sell their juice in Europe, and these companies initially told them, you know, if you--just give us proof that you don't source your fruit from the occupied territory, that it doesn't come from the West Bank.

"But then they changed their tune and said, you know what? We don't want any kind of product that says 'Made in Israel'.

"That's obviously because of the boycott movement.

"And what these farmers do, what these agricultural companies do then is they try to seek, very desperately, other markets, because with agriculture you can't keep the goods forever. They're perishable goods. So their growing market now is Russia.

"Russia is under international sanctions because of the crisis in Ukraine, and there are Russian companies that are willing to buy these goods from Israel. But they're paying less. The prices are lower."

Ready for that big FLUSH?

Israeli Agribusiness Demanding Relief From Government as BDS Intensifies

So who's the big mouth talking, Gaza George, not that I really listened to him? You can Google about this site and there is another site where someone says: The moderator of a page named 'the real news channel' that spruiks socialist dribble with no fact based substance. Meanwhile, one of the few Jews that you like says that the BDS movement is likely to fail.
Chomsky BDS Tactics Likely to Fail HonestReporting

If only you could afford a car, you would be able to drive to different Middle East markets and see the Muslim women put Israeli products in their shopping carts. Do you think they didn't get word of the boycott yet?

 

[georgephillip]

SALLY help me out------if the US has sanctions on Russia-----how is ISRAEL
"violating" them??. Don't different countries do their own sanctions?

"Actually, even before this assault on Gaza, there's been a steep decline in Israeli exports, especially to Europe. Some Israeli economists try to say, well, this is just because of the economic crisis inside Europe; it has nothing to do with political issues. But now we're seeing entire sectors of the Israeli economy that are suffering directly.

"So the sector that has probably suffered the most is the tourism sector. The tourism sector, they're not saying, we're being boycotted by people because of political opinions; they're saying people are afraid to go because of the war, and that's why we see so many cancellations and so many losses.

"But I think the agricultural sector, that's where we really see the impact very wide and very deep, because a lot of Israeli companies--there is an Israeli fruit company that produces fruit juice, and they were in negotiations with some European companies in Sweden, France, and Belgium to sell their juice in Europe, and these companies initially told them, you know, if you--just give us proof that you don't source your fruit from the occupied territory, that it doesn't come from the West Bank.

"But then they changed their tune and said, you know what? We don't want any kind of product that says 'Made in Israel'.

"That's obviously because of the boycott movement.

"And what these farmers do, what these agricultural companies do then is they try to seek, very desperately, other markets, because with agriculture you can't keep the goods forever. They're perishable goods. So their growing market now is Russia.

"Russia is under international sanctions because of the crisis in Ukraine, and there are Russian companies that are willing to buy these goods from Israel. But they're paying less. The prices are lower."

Ready for that big FLUSH?

Israeli Agribusiness Demanding Relief From Government as BDS Intensifies

So who's the big mouth talking, Gaza George, not that I really listened to him? You can Google about this site and there is another site where someone says: The moderator of a page named 'the real news channel' that spruiks socialist dribble with no fact based substance. Meanwhile, one of the few Jews that you like says that the BDS movement is likely to fail.
Chomsky BDS Tactics Likely to Fail HonestReporting

If only you could afford a car, you would be able to drive to different Middle East markets and see the Muslim women put Israeli products in their shopping carts. Do you think they didn't get word of the boycott yet?

"Chomsky also invoked an argument against BDS that has been used by anti-BDS activists for years – why focus on Israel alone?

"But while anti-BDS activists are usually referring to Iran or Syria, Chomsky cites the U.S. as his example."

“'If we boycott Tel Aviv University because Israel violates human rights at home, then why not boycott Harvard because of far greater violations by the United States?' he wrote.

Chomsky BDS Tactics Likely to Fail HonestReporting

 

[irosie91]

SALLY help me out------if the US has sanctions on Russia-----how is ISRAEL
"violating" them??. Don't different countries do their own sanctions?

"Actually, even before this assault on Gaza, there's been a steep decline in Israeli exports, especially to Europe. Some Israeli economists try to say, well, this is just because of the economic crisis inside Europe; it has nothing to do with political issues. But now we're seeing entire sectors of the Israeli economy that are suffering directly.


ACTUALLY,, Georgie----your "answer" has nothing to do with my question----
which is "how can Israel violate a US SANCTION ON RUSSIA"???

It might interest you to know------since it is a fact that RELATES to Israel
and economic sanctions. Israel has been under economic boycott
since 1950 by virtually all muslim countries--------most countries do not
cooperate. BDS ----functionally---nothing new. It is the modern
answer to starvation siege-----the older form used by the ummah to
murder millions-----------it does not work. In fact the economic boycott
of Iraq----way back in the 1980s did not kill anyone either

 

[georgephillip]

SALLY help me out------if the US has sanctions on Russia-----how is ISRAEL
"violating" them??. Don't different countries do their own sanctions?

"Actually, even before this assault on Gaza, there's been a steep decline in Israeli exports, especially to Europe. Some Israeli economists try to say, well, this is just because of the economic crisis inside Europe; it has nothing to do with political issues. But now we're seeing entire sectors of the Israeli economy that are suffering directly.


ACTUALLY,, Georgie----your "answer" has nothing to do with my question----
which is "how can Israel violate a US SANCTION ON RUSSIA"???

It might interest you to know------since it is a fact that RELATES to Israel
and economic sanctions. Israel has been under economic boycott
since 1950 by virtually all muslim countries--------most countries do not
cooperate. BDS ----functionally---nothing new. It is the modern
answer to starvation siege-----the older form used by the ummah to
murder millions-----------it does not work. In fact the economic boycott
of Iraq----way back in the 1980s did not kill anyone either

How did it work against racists in South Africa?

 

[Sally]

SALLY help me out------if the US has sanctions on Russia-----how is ISRAEL
"violating" them??. Don't different countries do their own sanctions?

"Actually, even before this assault on Gaza, there's been a steep decline in Israeli exports, especially to Europe. Some Israeli economists try to say, well, this is just because of the economic crisis inside Europe; it has nothing to do with political issues. But now we're seeing entire sectors of the Israeli economy that are suffering directly.


ACTUALLY,, Georgie----your "answer" has nothing to do with my question----
which is "how can Israel violate a US SANCTION ON RUSSIA"???

It might interest you to know------since it is a fact that RELATES to Israel
and economic sanctions. Israel has been under economic boycott
since 1950 by virtually all muslim countries--------most countries do not
cooperate. BDS ----functionally---nothing new. It is the modern
answer to starvation siege-----the older form used by the ummah to
murder millions-----------it does not work. In fact the economic boycott
of Iraq----way back in the 1980s did not kill anyone either

How did it work against racists in South Africa?

I guess Gaza George didn't get the message from those Black South Africans who had visited Israel and who have said that there is no Apartheid in Israel. However, we do know that the subject of "Apartheid in Israel" is a big thing on the NeoNazi/Islamofascist hate sites. Naturally these hate sites never discuss what happens in Muslim countries against those who are non Muslims.

 

[Sally]

SALLY help me out------if the US has sanctions on Russia-----how is ISRAEL
"violating" them??. Don't different countries do their own sanctions?

"Actually, even before this assault on Gaza, there's been a steep decline in Israeli exports, especially to Europe. Some Israeli economists try to say, well, this is just because of the economic crisis inside Europe; it has nothing to do with political issues. But now we're seeing entire sectors of the Israeli economy that are suffering directly.

"So the sector that has probably suffered the most is the tourism sector. The tourism sector, they're not saying, we're being boycotted by people because of political opinions; they're saying people are afraid to go because of the war, and that's why we see so many cancellations and so many losses.

"But I think the agricultural sector, that's where we really see the impact very wide and very deep, because a lot of Israeli companies--there is an Israeli fruit company that produces fruit juice, and they were in negotiations with some European companies in Sweden, France, and Belgium to sell their juice in Europe, and these companies initially told them, you know, if you--just give us proof that you don't source your fruit from the occupied territory, that it doesn't come from the West Bank.

"But then they changed their tune and said, you know what? We don't want any kind of product that says 'Made in Israel'.

"That's obviously because of the boycott movement.

"And what these farmers do, what these agricultural companies do then is they try to seek, very desperately, other markets, because with agriculture you can't keep the goods forever. They're perishable goods. So their growing market now is Russia.

"Russia is under international sanctions because of the crisis in Ukraine, and there are Russian companies that are willing to buy these goods from Israel. But they're paying less. The prices are lower."

Ready for that big FLUSH?

Israeli Agribusiness Demanding Relief From Government as BDS Intensifies

So who's the big mouth talking, Gaza George, not that I really listened to him? You can Google about this site and there is another site where someone says: The moderator of a page named 'the real news channel' that spruiks socialist dribble with no fact based substance. Meanwhile, one of the few Jews that you like says that the BDS movement is likely to fail.
Chomsky BDS Tactics Likely to Fail HonestReporting

If only you could afford a car, you would be able to drive to different Middle East markets and see the Muslim women put Israeli products in their shopping carts. Do you think they didn't get word of the boycott yet?

"Chomsky also invoked an argument against BDS that has been used by anti-BDS activists for years – why focus on Israel alone?

"But while anti-BDS activists are usually referring to Iran or Syria, Chomsky cites the U.S. as his example."

“'If we boycott Tel Aviv University because Israel violates human rights at home, then why not boycott Harvard because of far greater violations by the United States?' he wrote.

Chomsky BDS Tactics Likely to Fail HonestReporting

Well I think most of us know that he is a socialist and that is why you lap up his work even though he is Jewish. Meanwhile, I think the viewers are smart enough to realize that you salivate over this BDS movement and hope that it eventually covers everything coming out of Israel. However, I doubt that any thinking person will give up the medical and technological innovations coming out of Israel no matter how much they might hate the Jews like you do. I certainly wish you could afford a car and a tankful of gas so that you could travel around to the different Middle Eastern markets here in Los Angeles and tell the Muslim women that they shouldn't buy Israeli products. They would probably laugh you right out of the store.

 

[georgephillip]

SALLY help me out------if the US has sanctions on Russia-----how is ISRAEL
"violating" them??. Don't different countries do their own sanctions?

"Actually, even before this assault on Gaza, there's been a steep decline in Israeli exports, especially to Europe. Some Israeli economists try to say, well, this is just because of the economic crisis inside Europe; it has nothing to do with political issues. But now we're seeing entire sectors of the Israeli economy that are suffering directly.


ACTUALLY,, Georgie----your "answer" has nothing to do with my question----
which is "how can Israel violate a US SANCTION ON RUSSIA"???

It might interest you to know------since it is a fact that RELATES to Israel
and economic sanctions. Israel has been under economic boycott
since 1950 by virtually all muslim countries--------most countries do not
cooperate. BDS ----functionally---nothing new. It is the modern
answer to starvation siege-----the older form used by the ummah to
murder millions-----------it does not work. In fact the economic boycott
of Iraq----way back in the 1980s did not kill anyone either

How did it work against racists in South Africa?

I guess Gaza George didn't get the message from those Black South Africans who had visited Israel and who have said that there is no Apartheid in Israel. However, we do know that the subject of "Apartheid in Israel" is a big thing on the NeoNazi/Islamofascist hate sites. Naturally these hate sites never discuss what happens in Muslim countries against those who are non Muslims.

"'Apartheid' isn't just a term of insult; it's a word with a very specific legal meaning, as defined by the International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid, adopted by the U.N. General Assembly in 1973 and ratified by most United Nations member states (Israel and the United States are exceptions, to their shame).

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"According to Article II of that convention, the term applies to acts 'committed for the purpose of establishing and maintaining domination by one racial group of persons over any other racial group of persons and systematically oppressing them.'

"Denying those others the right to life and liberty, subjecting them to arbitrary arrest, expropriating their property, depriving them of the right to leave and return to their country or the right to freedom of movement and of residence, creating separate reserves and ghettos for the members of different racial groups, preventing mixed marriages — these are all examples of the crime of apartheid specifically..."

Your people are really NOT that special, $al, you're just GREEDY.

Does the term apartheid fit Israel Of course it does. - LA Times

 

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What do you make of Abbas?

"He's a longtime Israeli collaborator. He performs enforcer services. He conspires against his own people.

"He's a Palestinian Judas. He belongs in prison, not high office.

"He's well rewarded. He's hugely corrupt.

"He amassed an huge fortune. He did so the old-fashioned way. Betrayal pays well. Palestinian suffering continues.

"Abbas shares blame with Israel. He collaborates with the enemy. He's done so for decades. A previous article said he knew about Operation Cast Lead in advance.

"He supported it. He asked Israel to crush Hamas. What did he know and when about Operation Protective Edge?

"Why didn't he forthrightly denounce it? Why didn't he immediately sign the Rome Statute?

Is the PA obstructing a probe of Israel latest war crimes in Gaza?

Abbas Blocks Israeli War Crimes Investigation

With friends like Abbas, who needs enemies? I guess the Palestinians are going to have to wait even longer to get any justice, with Abbas stonewalling.
He's pretty old. Maybe somebody effective will step up to help with the Palestinians long suffering plight. They really could use a lucky break right about now.
Maybe after ISIS is defeated the M.E. will calm down, allowing the world to focus on the Palestinians' crisis. I don't want Israel using the Palestinians for target practice anymore.

What if it's not in the "National Interest" of the US for the ME to (ever) calm down? For over four decades the US has been arming, training, and supporting some of the most violent elements of radical Islam they could find. The only way to lower the level of violence in that part of the world begins with cutting off arms sales there; the US is the worlds leading arms seller. Based on history, once IS is subdued the US will have already set up its next proxy threat to "National Security,"

It took me awhile to get back to you.
You know, capitalism might be good for some countries but maybe
not every country. If the ME wants to embrace it or reject it
then they should have that choice instead of getting capitalism
shoved down their throat by the U.S. and the west. If they want
to barter for goods, that's perfectly acceptable and fine.
Whatever they wish to do.
If they don't want modern houses or cars or a modern way of
life that is certainly THEIR choice. I say let them do what
they wish and leave them alone. They know what's best.

If they want to grow poppies or weed in Afghanistan, hey, more
power to them. They can also just let their land sit there
without cultivating it. It's THEIR land and THEY can do what
they want with it. The U.S. has no business destroying crops in
Afghanistan or anywhere else.

America is screwing up the ME big time. The corrupt politicians
and lobbyists, like you said, and the corrupt greed of the
Military Industry are driving the whole mess.
How to stop it? Spread the word on the web. The traditional
ways of writing Congress. Boycott arms companies. Boycott
corporations invested in the ME. Vote for Representatives that
are anti-war.

Personally I don't get it. Why does the U.S. care and interfere
so much in the ME?
Israel for one. Israel wants the U.S. to kill all Muslims so
Israel doesn't have to. Israel wants to exterminate them and
steal their land and especially their water. Apparently the
Israelis need to use huge quantities of water for their
swimming pools and lawns while only giving Palestinians BELOW
THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF DAILY WATER FOR SURVIVAL FOR A HUMAN.

Yeah. Unbelievable. Israelis get 400 liters per person per day
(106 gallons) but the Palestinians only get 10 liters per
person per day (2.5 gallons). That's not enough water for
drinking, cooking, flushing or bathing. Very obvious.

Another reason used to be "the oil". But, now with the glut of
oil discovered in U.S. we don't need the ME oil. So that's no
excuse. (The neo-cons might still use it for an excuse though).

Thirdly, I believe the U.S. wants the ME to be stable so
Americans can travel around the world for sightseeing like they
own the damn place. They want to visit the pyramids, etc. at
THEIR (the Americans) convenience. It's selfish. Makes them feel powerful (?). I just don't get it.

I guess the American companies want to make $$ in the ME so
they put in a factory/business over there and when things start
going crazy, they freak out and have their cronies in
Washington start beating the war drums. For the ME. Like that's
going to help.

Terrorism. Yeah we supposedly had the terrorists under control
then Maliki screwed over the Sunnis which caused them to hook
up with ISIS. And the Iraqis handed over all our tanks and
weapons we gave them to the terrorists. Now we have well-
equipped terrorists wreaking havoc. Cue the war neo-cons!

So basically America is screwing around in the ME for the worst
reasons imaginable. And it's costing the ME people, especially
the Arabs, their lives.

The U.S. should never send any weapon at all to the ME or
anywhere in the world. Not even a damn flashlight. And NEVER
LEAVE YOUR BEST EQUIPMENT LIKE ABRAMS TANKS in the ME or anywhere else. They need to be brought back to the U.S.
Otherwise it promotes wars. In a tinder box.

Let them make their own damn countries and maps and elect their
own leaders or just run around with no laws. Or Sharia law. So
what? Deal with it.
Damn politicians in Washington need to just stop bitching about
the rest of the World and just shut up and deal with their own
problems.
LEAVE THE MIDDLE EAST ALONE! (Except Palestine. The Israelis
need to be held accountable for their atrocities including land theft and mass murder).[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

 

[georgephillip]

SALLY help me out------if the US has sanctions on Russia-----how is ISRAEL
"violating" them??. Don't different countries do their own sanctions?

"Actually, even before this assault on Gaza, there's been a steep decline in Israeli exports, especially to Europe. Some Israeli economists try to say, well, this is just because of the economic crisis inside Europe; it has nothing to do with political issues. But now we're seeing entire sectors of the Israeli economy that are suffering directly.

"So the sector that has probably suffered the most is the tourism sector. The tourism sector, they're not saying, we're being boycotted by people because of political opinions; they're saying people are afraid to go because of the war, and that's why we see so many cancellations and so many losses.

"But I think the agricultural sector, that's where we really see the impact very wide and very deep, because a lot of Israeli companies--there is an Israeli fruit company that produces fruit juice, and they were in negotiations with some European companies in Sweden, France, and Belgium to sell their juice in Europe, and these companies initially told them, you know, if you--just give us proof that you don't source your fruit from the occupied territory, that it doesn't come from the West Bank.

"But then they changed their tune and said, you know what? We don't want any kind of product that says 'Made in Israel'.

"That's obviously because of the boycott movement.

"And what these farmers do, what these agricultural companies do then is they try to seek, very desperately, other markets, because with agriculture you can't keep the goods forever. They're perishable goods. So their growing market now is Russia.

"Russia is under international sanctions because of the crisis in Ukraine, and there are Russian companies that are willing to buy these goods from Israel. But they're paying less. The prices are lower."

Ready for that big FLUSH?

Israeli Agribusiness Demanding Relief From Government as BDS Intensifies

So who's the big mouth talking, Gaza George, not that I really listened to him? You can Google about this site and there is another site where someone says: The moderator of a page named 'the real news channel' that spruiks socialist dribble with no fact based substance. Meanwhile, one of the few Jews that you like says that the BDS movement is likely to fail.
Chomsky BDS Tactics Likely to Fail HonestReporting

If only you could afford a car, you would be able to drive to different Middle East markets and see the Muslim women put Israeli products in their shopping carts. Do you think they didn't get word of the boycott yet?

"Chomsky also invoked an argument against BDS that has been used by anti-BDS activists for years – why focus on Israel alone?

"But while anti-BDS activists are usually referring to Iran or Syria, Chomsky cites the U.S. as his example."

“'If we boycott Tel Aviv University because Israel violates human rights at home, then why not boycott Harvard because of far greater violations by the United States?' he wrote.

Chomsky BDS Tactics Likely to Fail HonestReporting

Well I think most of us know that he is a socialist and that is why you lap up his work even though he is Jewish. Meanwhile, I think the viewers are smart enough to realize that you salivate over this BDS movement and hope that it eventually covers everything coming out of Israel. However, I doubt that any thinking person will give up the medical and technological innovations coming out of Israel no matter how much they might hate the Jews like you do. I certainly wish you could afford a car and a tankful of gas so that you could travel around to the different Middle Eastern markets here in Los Angeles and tell the Muslim women that they shouldn't buy Israeli products. They would probably laugh you right out of the store.

Your racist state is collapsing, Ha$bara $al, why aren't you there helping?

"So Israel is in a crisis of standard of living, which has accumulated over many years now. And, in fact, a lot of Israelis are protesting and have protested very vigorously against the drop in income or the stagnating income while cost of living is going up so sharply. And, in fact, this has altered the Israeli political situation.

"So now there are big political parties in the parliament and in the government who have made promises to try to improve the situation.

"And what's amazing is how the entire public debate in Israel has seemed to forgotten this debate, the economic debate that existed merely days before the war against Gaza started.

"And in that debate, there was a very heated argument between the Ministry of Finance and the Ministry of Defense about cutting the defense budget. Israel is spending more on defense as a proportion of its total public expenses than any country in the world, or at least any developed country.

"And this has taken a very heavy burden on the population.

"There has been an attempt to try to cut down the cost of the military. And the army has threatened that they're going to not be able to provide Israelis with enough security. They basically tried to scare the public about various menaces.

"And when it seemed that the Ministry of Finance is maybe going to win, that's exactly when the conflict erupted, first with this operation Brother's Keeper, in which Israel invaded the West Bank. Netanyahu, Prime Minister Netanyahu, wanted to blame Hamas for this escalation.

"So he diverted the aggression towards Gaza. That's actually what started this 50 day onslaught on Gaza known as Protective Edge.

"And now all of this debate has been forgotten.

"Everybody forgets that this all started with the attempt of the Ministry of Defense to protect their own budgets.

"And the situation now is that the debates that we see in the news are not about whether the defense budget can be cut or how much can it be cut, but how much is it going to be increased.

Israel Facing Major Economic Consequences for 50 Day War on Gaza

Your people murder hundreds of children to protect the funding of their war machine; aren't you one proud