Israel Keeps Making, Not Taking, More Refugees

[Preacher]

Israel Keeps Making, Not Taking, More Refugees - American Freedom Party

No surprise. That's their goal.

 

[RodISHI]

Gaza has more than it can handle now, better put that blame back where it belongs. Assad and the whackos in that region and our own who let Iraq go back to the dogs too soon.

 

[waltky]

Someone should inform the Pope we've already 'embraced 11 million refugees - with no help from the EU...

The Latest: UN refugee chief disappointed in EU refugee plan
Sep 24,`15 -- The latest developments as European governments struggle to cope with the huge number of people moving across Europe. All times local:

6:15 p.m.

The head of the U.N. refugee agency says he is "disappointed" that a European Union plan to help those pouring into Europe failed to open more legal pathways for them to enter. Antonio Guterres generally welcomed EU plans to relocate 120,000 refugees and boost humanitarian aid for the neighbors of war-torn Syria - the home of most of the refugees who have poured into Greece via Turkey in recent months. Guterres said Thursday that more needs to be done to improve the facilities to take in, help, register and screen people now arriving by boat at an average rate of 5,000 a day. His office called the EU program "limited" compared to current needs and urged a "substantial and rapid increase in legal opportunities for refugees to access the EU."

6:05 p.m.

Hundreds of Syrian refugees who have waited more than a week at the border between Greece and Turkey in hopes of getting into the European Union are being returned to other areas in Turkey. The movement was reported Thursday by Turkey's country's state-run Anadolu Agency. The failure to win admission into the EU is a disappointment for those who had gathered at the Turkish border city of Edirne since Sept. 15 in hopes of avoiding the dangerous sea crossing to Greece. Some refugees had hoped Wednesday's meeting in Brussels would come up with a deal that would allow them into Greece or Bulgaria. Anadolu said the refugees would be returned to the provinces where they registered.

4:15 p.m.

About 500 migrants have been stranded at a Christian Orthodox cemetery in no man's land between Serbia and Croatia. Croatian police on Thursday blocked their entry from Serbia near the Tovarnik border crossing, which has been one of the main entry points for migrants as they seek to continue their hazardous journey toward Western Europe. The influx of mainly Syrians, Iraqis and Afghans has caused tensions between Balkan rivals Serbia and Croatia, with countries criticizing each other over border closures and traffic blockades. Croatia is blaming Serbia for busing migrants to the Croatian border, instead of channeling them further north toward Hungary.

3:25 p.m.

Hungarian troops have started laying down spools of razor wire at a new border - this time, a crossing with Slovenia. Government spokesman Zoltan Kovacs told The Associated Press on Thursday that the razor wire was being installed near a checkpoint between the Hungarian village of Tornyiszentmiklos and Pince, Slovenia. State television showed soldiers in thick protective gloves installing the razor wire across hundreds of meters (yards) on the Slovenian border.

A man wrapped in a blanket walks with a group of migrants towards Hungary, after arriving by train in Botovo, Croatia, Thursday, Sept. 24, 2015. Croatia says it's so overwhelmed that authorities have been shipping the migrants toward Hungary or Slovenia. Most want to travel on to wealthier nations in Western Europe such as Germany or Sweden.

Kovacs called it a precautionary measure. But both Hungary and Slovenia are part of the European Union's Schengen zone of passport-free travel, so, theoretically at least, there's no need for border checks or fences between them. Hungary has already built a 4-meter (13-feet) high fence on its border with Serbia and hopes to finish a similar barrier on the Croatian border shortly. Preparations are also underway to extend the fence along the Romanian border as well. The fence has succeeded in stopping most migrants from entering Hungary from Serbia but over 10,000 entered Hungary from Croatia on Wednesday.

2:55 p.m.

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Embrace immigrants, Pope Francis urges Congress
Sep 24,`15 WASHINGTON (AP) -- Standing before a rapt Congress, Pope Francis issued a ringing call to action on behalf of immigrants Thursday, urging lawmakers to embrace "the stranger in our midst" as he became the first pontiff in history to address a joint meeting at the U.S. Capitol.

Referencing the migration crisis in Europe as well as the United States' own struggle with immigration from Latin America, Francis summoned lawmakers "to respond in a way which is always humane, just and fraternal." "We must not be taken aback by their numbers but rather view them as persons, seeing their faces and listening to their stories, trying to respond as best as we can to their situation," Francis urged.

He was welcomed enthusiastically to a House chamber packed with Supreme Court justices, Cabinet officials, and lawmakers of both parties, uniting the bickering factions as all stood to cheer his arrival. The sergeant at arms intoned "Mr. Speaker, the pope of the Holy See," and Francis made his way up the center aisle in his white robes, moving slowly as lawmakers applauded, some inclining their heads in bows.

Pope Francis, flanked by Vice President Joe Biden and House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio, waves to the crowd on Capitol Hill in Washington, Thursday, Sept. 24, 2015, as they stand on the Speaker's Balcony on Capitol Hill, after the pope addressed a joint meeting of Congress inside.

After the speech, he appeared on a Capitol balcony and briefly addressed a cheering crowd of thousands below on the lawn and the Mall beyond. "Buenos dias," he called out, and the crowd thundered its response. Francis asked the crowd to pray for him, as he always does. Speaking in Spanish, he added a line to acknowledge that not everyone there was a believer. "If among you there are some who don't believe or who cannot pray, I ask that you send good wishes my way," he said, to tumultuous applause. "God bless America!" he concluded, as he had in the House chamber.

From the Capitol where he challenged Washington's elites Francis traveled to comfort some of the city's neediest. He spoke to homeless people at St. Patrick Parish and pressed into a crowd at Catholic Charities, where people surrounded him and took selfies after he offered a blessing before their lunch. He called on the faithful to solve homelessness, declaring: "Let me be clear: There can be no social or moral justification, no justification whatsoever, for lack of housing."

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[RoccoR]

Odium, et al,

I read this article three times and am still confused as to the TITLE and its implication.

Israel Keeps Making, Not Taking, More Refugees - American Freedom Party

No surprise. That's their goal.

(QUESTIONs)

• First, how is Israel "making" (creating more) refugees?
• What requires Israel to accept Arab refugees?
• What does "occupying the Golan Heights since 1967" have to do with "making refugees?"
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(COMMENT)

The last major conflict between Israel and any Arab League nation involving the Arab-Palestinians was more than four decades ago (1973). The Israelis have not created the conditions to generate or cause more refugees in that span of time.

The current refugee crisis adversely impacting Europe stems largely from the Muslim Regional Conflicts in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria. These displaced Muslims, generated by the threat of the return of the Taliban in Afghanistan, the spread of DAESH (ISIS) across Iraq, and the Arab Spring in Syria, (while not the only pressures causing the movement) are major contributing factors behind the movement. Now two of the major questions stimulating the discussion (by no means the only questions) behind these refugee sources are:

• What do these refugee movements have in common?
• Why are these refugee movements not migrating towards Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Turkey, United Arab Emirate, Sudan, Egypt, Dubai, Bahrain?
• Is there an intention to overwhelm Europe; making Europe subsidize the radical Islamic activity in these various trouble spots?
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I noticed that the implication of the Original Post (#1) was that it is somehow the fault of Israel, and that the Jewish National Home should do more for these Muslim refugees than the Arab League has done or even considers doing.

• Are these refugees being pushed in the direction of Europe?
• Do the refugees see the potential for a better life in Europe, as opposed to other Muslim countries?
• Is there some attempt to change the demographics in Europe from non-Muslim to a predominately Muslim character?
• Is it that the Arab League nations see no advantage to taking care of their own. That acceptance of refugees of an associate culture would be harmful in some way?
• Or, is it something else all together?
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I'm not sure why the OP focuses on Israel and not the State of Palestine, or its associated allies in the Arab League. But I think, before we suggest that it is somehow the fault of Israel, that we examine the questions much more closely. As we know, just as the Arabs of the territory formerly under the Mandate where somewhat xenophobic towards the Jewish Immigrants, there might be some underlying cause that gives the effect of the refugees swapping Europe.

PS: How does the concept of the "Right of Return" apply to these refugees? Should they be forced to return? Should there be some compensation awarded to them? Should the UN start writing resolutions on the refugees behalf just as they did for the Hostile Arab Palestinians? Is DAESH (ISIS) a lawful resistance movement in the same way as HAMAS?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Israel Keeps Making, Not Taking, More Refugees - American Freedom Party

No surprise. That's their goal.

Why should Israel take in Syrian Arab refugees, when their brother-Arab countries won't take them?

 

[Daniyel]

Israel Keeps Making, Not Taking, More Refugees - American Freedom Party

No surprise. That's their goal.

Why should Israel take in Syrian Arab refugees, when their brother-Arab countries won't take them?

Moreover I'd like to ask you, what exactly do you define refugees? (I know you didn't came up with the article but you supports it so kindly explain it us)