Islam should not be constitutionally protected

[garion13a5]

Hello,

Islam is not a religion in the truest sense. It is a political, legal and administrative institution with a "God" as its titular head. So consequently, it should not be afforded constitutional protection.

garion13a5

 

[bucs90]

I agree. Would any religion that said child rape or honor murdering would be legal be protected?

You can't just say "it's my religion" and say it's all protected.

Islam's teachings are too fanatic.

 

[Old Rocks]

Well, no one is allowed to break the law here, no matter what their religion say. And, yes, Islam is protected under our Constitution. Just as the religion of people that don't let their children go to doctors is. But if the child dies because of the lack of a doctor, they go to jail for the child abuse resulting in death.

 

[irosie91]

get a grip folks-----no one is suggesting that honor killing be made legal in the USA. HOWEVER for some reason SOME people have concluded that islam should be afforded SPECIAL STATUS that no other ideology seems to have. only some people. Like----one cannot "insult" muhummad (?????) Jesus does not enjoy such a status----nor does ELIJAH and certainly not MARY.----even SIVA does not (or shiva?? I am not sure)

 

[garion13a5]

Well, no one is allowed to break the law here, no matter what their religion say. And, yes, Islam is protected under our Constitution. Just as the religion of people that don't let their children go to doctors is. But if the child dies because of the lack of a doctor, they go to jail for the child abuse resulting in death.

Hello,

I'm not arguing that it is not constitutionally protected because it is too violent. That it is too violent is self-evident. I'm saying it should be excluded as it is a political ideology more than a religion.

garion13a5

 

[Agit8r]

Maybe we should apply this standard to all applicable religions

 

[irosie91]

Well, no one is allowed to break the law here, no matter what their religion say. And, yes, Islam is protected under our Constitution. Just as the religion of people that don't let their children go to doctors is. But if the child dies because of the lack of a doctor, they go to jail for the child abuse resulting in death.

Hello,

I'm not arguing that it is not constitutionally protected because it is too violent. That it is too violent is self-evident. I'm saying it should be excluded as it is a political ideology more than a religion.

garion13a5

well------yes------so is communism but without "god" IN the USA we have accepted the idea that islam is NOT A POLITICAL IDEOLOGY-----in fact----
both Catholicism and Judaism and ---for that matter HINDUISM can be political ideologies. The question is ---is there a form of islam that is NOT a political ideology -------it seems to me that lots of people are INSISTING that there is-----somewhere

 

[Asclepias]

I agree. Would any religion that said child rape or honor murdering would be legal be protected?

You can't just say "it's my religion" and say it's all protected.

Islam's teachings are too fanatic.

The bible says its ok to have sex with children so you would have to ban christianity.

"Age of marriage is puberty according to the Bible:

We have already seen Ezekiel 16 being used as a proof text by a Christian apologist to show the Biblical age of consent is puberty:

…Your breasts were formed and your hair grew, you who were naked and bare. 8 ” ‘Later I passed by, and when I looked at you and saw that you were old enough for love… [taken from Ezekiel 16]"

 

[garion13a5]

get a grip folks-----no one is suggesting that honor killing be made legal in the USA. HOWEVER for some reason SOME people have concluded that islam should be afforded SPECIAL STATUS that no other ideology seems to have. only some people. Like----one cannot "insult" muhummad (?????) Jesus does not enjoy such a status----nor does ELIJAH and certainly not MARY.----even SIVA does not (or shiva?? I am not sure)

Hello,

Fortunately, these religions are no longer as violent as they were in their youth. Islam is by far the most violent faith in the world. Further, it is not just a religion but a political ideology and consequently not protected.

garion13a5

 

[ogibillm]

get a grip folks-----no one is suggesting that honor killing be made legal in the USA. HOWEVER for some reason SOME people have concluded that islam should be afforded SPECIAL STATUS that no other ideology seems to have. only some people. Like----one cannot "insult" muhummad (?????) Jesus does not enjoy such a status----nor does ELIJAH and certainly not MARY.----even SIVA does not (or shiva?? I am not sure)

You're making shit up

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Hello,

Islam is not a religion in the truest sense. It is a political, legal and administrative institution with a "God" as its titular head. So consequently, it should not be afforded constitutional protection.

garion13a5

I disagree. Actually, what the United States protects is your religion, but not the practice of said religion in cases that it breaks the law. It's perfectly fine as is.

 

[garion13a5]

I agree. Would any religion that said child rape or honor murdering would be legal be protected?

You can't just say "it's my religion" and say it's all protected.

Islam's teachings are too fanatic.

The bible says its ok to have sex with children so you would have to ban christianity.

"Age of marriage is puberty according to the Bible:

We have already seen Ezekiel 16 being used as a proof text by a Christian apologist to show the Biblical age of consent is puberty:

…Your breasts were formed and your hair grew, you who were naked and bare. 8 ” ‘Later I passed by, and when I looked at you and saw that you were old enough for love… [taken from Ezekiel 16]"

Hello,

I think we can agree that all religions have some pretty awful parts. The problem is Mohammad was the 'last' prophet and supposedly the standard by which men were judged. So any Muslim who follows his example today is following God's wishes. This is problematic as Mohammed was a 7th century warlord who had a 6 year old bride. All across the Muslim world today, child brides are accepted in law because an Islamic state cannot say Mohammed was wrong. This religion cannot grow up and join humanity in the 21st century. It will forever be stuck in the 6th.

garion13a5

 

[garion13a5]

Well, no one is allowed to break the law here, no matter what their religion say. And, yes, Islam is protected under our Constitution. Just as the religion of people that don't let their children go to doctors is. But if the child dies because of the lack of a doctor, they go to jail for the child abuse resulting in death.

Hello,

Islam is protected now but the Supreme Court can rectify this. This monstrosity need not continue.

garion13a5

 

[Asclepias]

I agree. Would any religion that said child rape or honor murdering would be legal be protected?

You can't just say "it's my religion" and say it's all protected.

Islam's teachings are too fanatic.

The bible says its ok to have sex with children so you would have to ban christianity.

"Age of marriage is puberty according to the Bible:

We have already seen Ezekiel 16 being used as a proof text by a Christian apologist to show the Biblical age of consent is puberty:

…Your breasts were formed and your hair grew, you who were naked and bare. 8 ” ‘Later I passed by, and when I looked at you and saw that you were old enough for love… [taken from Ezekiel 16]"

Hello,

I think we can agree that all religions have some pretty awful parts. The problem is Mohammad was the 'last' prophet and supposedly the standard by which men were judged. So any Muslim who follows his example today is following God's wishes. This is problematic as Mohammed was a 7th century warlord who had a 6 year old bride. All across the Muslim world today, child brides are accepted in law because an Islamic state cannot say Mohammed was wrong. This religion cannot grow up and join humanity in the 21st century. It will forever be stuck in the 6th.

garion13a5

Youre assuming that Muslims dont have the common sense some christians display by not stoning people to death anymore. I cant tolerate that sort of biased thinking.

 

[irosie91]

I agree. Would any religion that said child rape or honor murdering would be legal be protected?

You can't just say "it's my religion" and say it's all protected.

Islam's teachings are too fanatic.

The bible says its ok to have sex with children so you would have to ban christianity.

"Age of marriage is puberty according to the Bible:

We have already seen Ezekiel 16 being used as a proof text by a Christian apologist to show the Biblical age of consent is puberty:

…Your breasts were formed and your hair grew, you who were naked and bare. 8 ” ‘Later I passed by, and when I looked at you and saw that you were old enough for love… [taken from Ezekiel 16]"

What do you call PUBERTY? ------and what is your point? Did Ezekiel write LAW? -----as I recall he seems to have had mushroom galvanized visions? Age of consent in jewish law for girls is 12 1/2 for boys 13

 

[Asclepias]

I agree. Would any religion that said child rape or honor murdering would be legal be protected?

You can't just say "it's my religion" and say it's all protected.

Islam's teachings are too fanatic.

The bible says its ok to have sex with children so you would have to ban christianity.

"Age of marriage is puberty according to the Bible:

We have already seen Ezekiel 16 being used as a proof text by a Christian apologist to show the Biblical age of consent is puberty:

…Your breasts were formed and your hair grew, you who were naked and bare. 8 ” ‘Later I passed by, and when I looked at you and saw that you were old enough for love… [taken from Ezekiel 16]"

What do you call PUBERTY? ------and what is your point? Did Ezekiel write LAW? -----as I recall he seems to have had mushroom galvanized visions? Age of consent in jewish law for girls is 12 1/2 for boys 13

Thats considered child rape.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Islam should not be constitutionally protected"

Bigotry, ignorance, and stupidity all in one post.

And your moronic thread premise fails because of that pesky First Amendment.

What a shame.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Well, no one is allowed to break the law here, no matter what their religion say. And, yes, Islam is protected under our Constitution. Just as the religion of people that don't let their children go to doctors is. But if the child dies because of the lack of a doctor, they go to jail for the child abuse resulting in death.

Hello,

I'm not arguing that it is not constitutionally protected because it is too violent. That it is too violent is self-evident. I'm saying it should be excluded as it is a political ideology more than a religion.

garion13a5

And your ‘argument’ is ignorant, moronic bigotry.

 

[irosie91]

I agree. Would any religion that said child rape or honor murdering would be legal be protected?

You can't just say "it's my religion" and say it's all protected.

Islam's teachings are too fanatic.

The bible says its ok to have sex with children so you would have to ban christianity.

"Age of marriage is puberty according to the Bible:

We have already seen Ezekiel 16 being used as a proof text by a Christian apologist to show the Biblical age of consent is puberty:

…Your breasts were formed and your hair grew, you who were naked and bare. 8 ” ‘Later I passed by, and when I looked at you and saw that you were old enough for love… [taken from Ezekiel 16]"

What do you call PUBERTY? ------and what is your point? Did Ezekiel write LAW? -----as I recall he seems to have had mushroom galvanized visions? Age of consent in jewish law for girls is 12 1/2 for boys 13

Thats considered child rape.

age of consent in the USA varies with the state. My great grandmother married at age 14---I believe the boy was 18. -----it was
in the AUSTRIAN HABSBURG EMPIRE. ----a love match----the couple insisted----or so I was told

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Well, no one is allowed to break the law here, no matter what their religion say. And, yes, Islam is protected under our Constitution. Just as the religion of people that don't let their children go to doctors is. But if the child dies because of the lack of a doctor, they go to jail for the child abuse resulting in death.

Hello,

Islam is protected now but the Supreme Court can rectify this. This monstrosity need not continue.

garion13a5

There’s nothing to ‘rectify.’

And the First Amendment protects all religions from this sort of bigotry and hate – including Islam.