Is This the Transformation You Wanted?

[The Irish Ram]

No, you claimed he lied: "Every one a laughable falsehood."
Had you asked him to support his claim without a counter claim, your argument works. After the counter claim, not so much

Back to ignore for you

Odd how the right wing mind functions. He makes affirmative claims; claims that are not supported by any facts. I point out that his claims are false. Since he offered not facts, there are no facts to refute. Police are not treated like criminals unless, like the cop in Cincinnati, they commit crimes. Criminals are still treated like criminals. They get arrested; they get tried, if convicted, they get punished. His claim is asinine. As are the rest. Religious beliefs are not limited at all. Actions based on this beliefs can be. You can believe that it is appropriated to stone to death an adulterer based on your faith, but you cannot act on that belief. You can believe that it is immoral for people to be gay, but you cannot refuse them services you offer to the general public. Your beliefs are not affected. Our debt is smaller, in proportion to our GDP, that it was in the 1940's. We managed to grow out of that and we are in the process of growing out of this debt. I addressed the lies about the IRS. The Justice Department is not political. They just indicted a handful of Democratic politicians in Pennsylvania. And there is less corruption in this administration than in any in the last fifty years. No indictments, no convictions, no resignations for ethical violations. How many were there under Bush II or Reagan? Dozens.

Odd that the left wing minds simply refuse to function.......

 

[paddymurphy]

No, you claimed he lied: "Every one a laughable falsehood."
Had you asked him to support his claim without a counter claim, your argument works. After the counter claim, not so much

Back to ignore for you

Odd how the right wing mind functions. He makes affirmative claims; claims that are not supported by any facts. I point out that his claims are false. Since he offered not facts, there are no facts to refute. Police are not treated like criminals unless, like the cop in Cincinnati, they commit crimes. Criminals are still treated like criminals. They get arrested; they get tried, if convicted, they get punished. His claim is asinine. As are the rest. Religious beliefs are not limited at all. Actions based on this beliefs can be. You can believe that it is appropriated to stone to death an adulterer based on your faith, but you cannot act on that belief. You can believe that it is immoral for people to be gay, but you cannot refuse them services you offer to the general public. Your beliefs are not affected. Our debt is smaller, in proportion to our GDP, that it was in the 1940's. We managed to grow out of that and we are in the process of growing out of this debt. I addressed the lies about the IRS. The Justice Department is not political. They just indicted a handful of Democratic politicians in Pennsylvania. And there is less corruption in this administration than in any in the last fifty years. No indictments, no convictions, no resignations for ethical violations. How many were there under Bush II or Reagan? Dozens.

Odd that the left wing minds simply refuse to function.......

You find it odd that a mind reaches conclusions after considering facts? That would explain your preference for opinions sans facts.

 

[bendog]

BHO told you he wanted to transform America: How do you like the results?

1. Police are criminals; Criminals are victims.
2. Religious beliefs made subservient to political correctness.
3. Astronomical debt repayments just around the corner.
4. IRS used as a weapon against political opponents.
5. A completely politicized Justice Department.
6. Corruption/deceit at the highest levels of government.

Are ANY of you happy with these developments? Where do you think we will end up?

You could have posted that in 1972, lol

 

[paddymurphy]

BHO told you he wanted to transform America: How do you like the results?

1. Police are criminals; Criminals are victims.
2. Religious beliefs made subservient to political correctness.
3. Astronomical debt repayments just around the corner.
4. IRS used as a weapon against political opponents.
5. A completely politicized Justice Department.
6. Corruption/deceit at the highest levels of government.

Are ANY of you happy with these developments? Where do you think we will end up?

You could have posted that in 1972, lol

Would have been true then.

 

[The Irish Ram]

No, you claimed he lied: "Every one a laughable falsehood."
Had you asked him to support his claim without a counter claim, your argument works. After the counter claim, not so much

Back to ignore for you

Odd how the right wing mind functions. He makes affirmative claims; claims that are not supported by any facts. I point out that his claims are false. Since he offered not facts, there are no facts to refute. Police are not treated like criminals unless, like the cop in Cincinnati, they commit crimes. Criminals are still treated like criminals. They get arrested; they get tried, if convicted, they get punished. His claim is asinine. As are the rest. Religious beliefs are not limited at all. Actions based on this beliefs can be. You can believe that it is appropriated to stone to death an adulterer based on your faith, but you cannot act on that belief. You can believe that it is immoral for people to be gay, but you cannot refuse them services you offer to the general public. Your beliefs are not affected. Our debt is smaller, in proportion to our GDP, that it was in the 1940's. We managed to grow out of that and we are in the process of growing out of this debt. I addressed the lies about the IRS. The Justice Department is not political. They just indicted a handful of Democratic politicians in Pennsylvania. And there is less corruption in this administration than in any in the last fifty years. No indictments, no convictions, no resignations for ethical violations. How many were there under Bush II or Reagan? Dozens.

Odd that the left wing minds simply refuse to function.......

You find it odd that a mind reaches conclusions after considering facts? That would explain your preference for opinions sans facts.

Who are you kidding? You don't consider facts. You regurgitate agenda. If you can say that the DOJ isn't political, then you have proven my point.
Want more?
"Black lives matter!" lol. @Blacklives matter @Soros.org. What matters is what Brussels tells you what matters, and when.
Yeah, you're a thinker alright!

 

[depotoo]

Your falsehoods are very amusing. Lerner was not hired by Bush. She had been working for the FEC, and transferred to the IRS in 2001, and was chosen, in 2006 by Steven Miller,
Commissioner of the IRS Tax Exempt and Government Entities Division, to run the EOD of the IRS. And she was definitely not a republican, ever.

Obama did nothing of the sort.

Yes, you are willing to lie for Obama, I understand.

A big part of leftism is the complete lack of ethics and integrity that you display.

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Lois G. Lerner, the woman at the center of the Internal Revenue Service scandal over special scrutiny of conservative groups, specifically targeted tea party applications and directed that they be held up in 2011 in order to come up with an agency policy, according to several of Ms. Lerner’s emails released by a House committee Thursday.

In one 2011 email, Ms. Lerner specifically calls the tea party applications for tax-exempt status problematic, which seems to counter Democrats’ arguments that tea party groups weren’t targeted.

“Tea Party Matter very dangerous,” Ms. Lerner wrote in the 2011 email, saying that those applications could end up being the “vehicle to go to court” to get more clarity on a 2010 Supreme Court ruling on campaign finance rules.

}
Emails show IRS Lois Lerner specifically targeted tea party - Washington Times

The IRS simply vetted tax exempt organizations to see if they were entitled to the exemption. Not a scintilla of evidence that there was any directive from the administration to the IRS.

False, the IRS targeted enemies of Obama in an effort (successful) to corrupt the political process in America and influence the election in 2012.

You favour corruption when it serves your party, because you have utterly not integrity and only care about party.

So, lifelong Republican Lois Lerner, hired by the first George Bush investigated tea party groups, a political movement, because she thought they might be engaging in partisan politics and, therefore, not entitled to the tax exemption for non-partisan groups. That is called doing her job.

 

[Uncensored2008]

So, lifelong Republican Lois Lerner,

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



Ah the lies commies tell...

{In one email highlighted by the committee, she wrote, apparently referring to conservative critics of the administration: “So we don’t need to worry about alien teRrorists (sic). It’s our own crazies that will take us down.”}

Lois Lerner hated conservatives new emails show - Washington Times

Lerner hates conservatives.

hired by the first George Bush investigated tea party groups, a political movement, because she thought they might be engaging in partisan politics and, therefore, not entitled to the tax exemption for non-partisan groups. That is called doing her job.

democrat hack Lerner target conservatives to sway the 2012 election for her boss, Barack Obama. She targeted his enemies list.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The only thing that influenced the 2012 election was the success the President had in undoing much of the harm caused by the previous administration. That and the good sense of the American people to reject the right wing lies about their president.

That and the neutralizing of the opposition by the IRS through intimidation and harassment.

 

[peach174]

False, the IRS targeted enemies of Obama in an effort (successful) to corrupt the political process in America and influence the election in 2012.

The only thing that influenced the 2012 election was the success the President had in undoing much of the harm caused by the previous administration. That and the good sense of the American people to reject the right wing lies about their president.

The harm done in 2008 was the policies of both parties, so why vote for either if you want change in D.C.

 

[depotoo]

Paddy, you are really good at regurgitating lies that are fed to you, never checking to see if there is any truth to them, first.

 

[Debra K]

Every one a laughable falsehood.

You are a laughable dolt, but the list is pretty accurate.

Nixon was driven from office for the mere suggestion of using the IRS against political enemies - Obama is praised for actually doing it.

Your conclusion that the list is pretty accurate has no factual support.

Your conclusion that Nixon was driven from office based on a mere suggestion of improper use of the IRS has no factual support. Wasn't it the Watergate Scandal and the ensuing threat of impeachment that caused Nixon to resign?

 

[Ernie S.]

Your falsehoods are very amusing. Lerner was not hired by Bush. She had been working for the FEC, and transferred to the IRS in 2001, and was chosen, in 2006 by Steven Miller,
Commissioner of the IRS Tax Exempt and Government Entities Division, to run the EOD of the IRS. And she was definitely not a republican, ever.

Obama did nothing of the sort.

Yes, you are willing to lie for Obama, I understand.

A big part of leftism is the complete lack of ethics and integrity that you display.

{


Lois G. Lerner, the woman at the center of the Internal Revenue Service scandal over special scrutiny of conservative groups, specifically targeted tea party applications and directed that they be held up in 2011 in order to come up with an agency policy, according to several of Ms. Lerner’s emails released by a House committee Thursday.

In one 2011 email, Ms. Lerner specifically calls the tea party applications for tax-exempt status problematic, which seems to counter Democrats’ arguments that tea party groups weren’t targeted.

“Tea Party Matter very dangerous,” Ms. Lerner wrote in the 2011 email, saying that those applications could end up being the “vehicle to go to court” to get more clarity on a 2010 Supreme Court ruling on campaign finance rules.

}
Emails show IRS Lois Lerner specifically targeted tea party - Washington Times

The IRS simply vetted tax exempt organizations to see if they were entitled to the exemption. Not a scintilla of evidence that there was any directive from the administration to the IRS.

False, the IRS targeted enemies of Obama in an effort (successful) to corrupt the political process in America and influence the election in 2012.

You favour corruption when it serves your party, because you have utterly not integrity and only care about party.

So, lifelong Republican Lois Lerner, hired by the first George Bush investigated tea party groups, a political movement, because she thought they might be engaging in partisan politics and, therefore, not entitled to the tax exemption for non-partisan groups. That is called doing her job.

This is why most have Paddy on ignore.

 

[bedowin62]

BHO told you he wanted to transform America: How do you like the results?

1. Police are criminals; Criminals are victims.
2. Religious beliefs made subservient to political correctness.
3. Astronomical debt repayments just around the corner.
4. IRS used as a weapon against political opponents.
5. A completely politicized Justice Department.
6. Corruption/deceit at the highest levels of government.

Are ANY of you happy with these developments? Where do you think we will end up?

every one spot on!!

 

[Debra K]

BHO told you he wanted to transform America: How do you like the results?

1. Police are criminals; Criminals are victims.
2. Religious beliefs made subservient to political correctness.
3. Astronomical debt repayments just around the corner.
4. IRS used as a weapon against political opponents.
5. A completely politicized Justice Department.
6. Corruption/deceit at the highest levels of government.

Are ANY of you happy with these developments? Where do you think we will end up?

1. I agree with you on this one...This is insanity and it needs to stop!
2. true...Freedom of speech!
3. And infrastructure, science, r&d and education isn't the cause of it!!! Our wars, our healthcare system, ssi and bank bail outs caused it. Learn what caused it and fix that!
4. Anyone within the Irs that does this needs to go to jail. This is wrong.
5. True...Sadly.
6. As a fiscal liberal it pains me to agree.

Did you follow up that post with a rousing "Amen!"?

Both the preacher and the choir have made no effort to support their sweeping conclusions.

 

[Ernie S.]

BHO told you he wanted to transform America: How do you like the results?

1. Police are criminals; Criminals are victims.
2. Religious beliefs made subservient to political correctness.
3. Astronomical debt repayments just around the corner.
4. IRS used as a weapon against political opponents.
5. A completely politicized Justice Department.
6. Corruption/deceit at the highest levels of government.

Are ANY of you happy with these developments? Where do you think we will end up?

1. I agree with you on this one...This is insanity and it needs to stop!
2. true...Freedom of speech!
3. And infrastructure, science, r&d and education isn't the cause of it!!! Our wars, our healthcare system, ssi and bank bail outs caused it. Learn what caused it and fix that!
4. Anyone within the Irs that does this needs to go to jail. This is wrong.
5. True...Sadly.
6. As a fiscal liberal it pains me to agree.

Did you follow up that post with a rousing "Amen!"?

Both the preacher and the choir have made no effort to support their sweeping conclusions.

Point one: just search the name Darren Wilson. Hint: Hands up, don't shoot.
Point 2: Criminal fines for refusing to bake a cake due to religious beliefs.
Point 3: US debt 1/21/09 10.7 trillion. Current debt ca. 18 trillion.
Point 4: Lois Lerner. 'Nuff said.
Point 5: Lois Lerner again. Fast and Furious, AG refusing to testify, Sec of State refusing to testify etc.
Point 6: Benghasi, Fast and Furious, Clinton emails, Lois Lerner, yet again.....


Yet you overlook all that. Could it be that you feel the ends justify any means?

 

[paddymurphy]

Your falsehoods are very amusing. Lerner was not hired by Bush. She had been working for the FEC, and transferred to the IRS in 2001, and was chosen, in 2006 by Steven Miller,
Commissioner of the IRS Tax Exempt and Government Entities Division, to run the EOD of the IRS. And she was definitely not a republican, ever.

Obama did nothing of the sort.

Yes, you are willing to lie for Obama, I understand.

A big part of leftism is the complete lack of ethics and integrity that you display.

{


Lois G. Lerner, the woman at the center of the Internal Revenue Service scandal over special scrutiny of conservative groups, specifically targeted tea party applications and directed that they be held up in 2011 in order to come up with an agency policy, according to several of Ms. Lerner’s emails released by a House committee Thursday.

In one 2011 email, Ms. Lerner specifically calls the tea party applications for tax-exempt status problematic, which seems to counter Democrats’ arguments that tea party groups weren’t targeted.

“Tea Party Matter very dangerous,” Ms. Lerner wrote in the 2011 email, saying that those applications could end up being the “vehicle to go to court” to get more clarity on a 2010 Supreme Court ruling on campaign finance rules.

}
Emails show IRS Lois Lerner specifically targeted tea party - Washington Times

The IRS simply vetted tax exempt organizations to see if they were entitled to the exemption. Not a scintilla of evidence that there was any directive from the administration to the IRS.

False, the IRS targeted enemies of Obama in an effort (successful) to corrupt the political process in America and influence the election in 2012.

You favour corruption when it serves your party, because you have utterly not integrity and only care about party.

So, lifelong Republican Lois Lerner, hired by the first George Bush investigated tea party groups, a political movement, because she thought they might be engaging in partisan politics and, therefore, not entitled to the tax exemption for non-partisan groups. That is called doing her job.

So, who was president in 2001 and in 2006? And she was a registered Republican.

 

[paddymurphy]

BHO told you he wanted to transform America: How do you like the results?

1. Police are criminals; Criminals are victims.
2. Religious beliefs made subservient to political correctness.
3. Astronomical debt repayments just around the corner.
4. IRS used as a weapon against political opponents.
5. A completely politicized Justice Department.
6. Corruption/deceit at the highest levels of government.

Are ANY of you happy with these developments? Where do you think we will end up?

1. I agree with you on this one...This is insanity and it needs to stop!
2. true...Freedom of speech!
3. And infrastructure, science, r&d and education isn't the cause of it!!! Our wars, our healthcare system, ssi and bank bail outs caused it. Learn what caused it and fix that!
4. Anyone within the Irs that does this needs to go to jail. This is wrong.
5. True...Sadly.
6. As a fiscal liberal it pains me to agree.

Did you follow up that post with a rousing "Amen!"?

Both the preacher and the choir have made no effort to support their sweeping conclusions.

Point one: just search the name Darren Wilson. Hint: Hands up, don't shoot.
Point 2: Criminal fines for refusing to bake a cake due to religious beliefs.
Point 3: US debt 1/21/09 10.7 trillion. Current debt ca. 18 trillion.
Point 4: Lois Lerner. 'Nuff said.
Point 5: Lois Lerner again. Fast and Furious, AG refusing to testify, Sec of State refusing to testify etc.
Point 6: Benghasi, Fast and Furious, Clinton emails, Lois Lerner, yet again.....


Yet you overlook all that. Could it be that you feel the ends justify any means?

Darren Wilson was not charged with a crime.
A civil damage award for violating a state anti-discrimination law, not a criminal fine. Jesus, you folks are morons.
Yes. Thanks to the Bush recession, we had to spend to grow out of it. Now, our debt to gdp ratio is low. Will continue to go lower as this President's policies slice the annual deficit.

Not a single indictment or conviction; nothing more than made up scandals that were investigated for years without any evidence of crime or corruption.

 

[paddymurphy]

So, lifelong Republican Lois Lerner,

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



Ah the lies commies tell...

{In one email highlighted by the committee, she wrote, apparently referring to conservative critics of the administration: “So we don’t need to worry about alien teRrorists (sic). It’s our own crazies that will take us down.”}

Lois Lerner hated conservatives new emails show - Washington Times

Lerner hates conservatives.

hired by the first George Bush investigated tea party groups, a political movement, because she thought they might be engaging in partisan politics and, therefore, not entitled to the tax exemption for non-partisan groups. That is called doing her job.

democrat hack Lerner target conservatives to sway the 2012 election for her boss, Barack Obama. She targeted his enemies list.

I did not say she was a conservative, i said she was a republican. And anyone with any sense would have a problem the tea party assholes trying to destroy this country.

 

[paddymurphy]

Your falsehoods are very amusing. Lerner was not hired by Bush. She had been working for the FEC, and transferred to the IRS in 2001, and was chosen, in 2006 by Steven Miller,
Commissioner of the IRS Tax Exempt and Government Entities Division, to run the EOD of the IRS. And she was definitely not a republican, ever.

Obama did nothing of the sort.

Yes, you are willing to lie for Obama, I understand.

A big part of leftism is the complete lack of ethics and integrity that you display.

{


Lois G. Lerner, the woman at the center of the Internal Revenue Service scandal over special scrutiny of conservative groups, specifically targeted tea party applications and directed that they be held up in 2011 in order to come up with an agency policy, according to several of Ms. Lerner’s emails released by a House committee Thursday.

In one 2011 email, Ms. Lerner specifically calls the tea party applications for tax-exempt status problematic, which seems to counter Democrats’ arguments that tea party groups weren’t targeted.

“Tea Party Matter very dangerous,” Ms. Lerner wrote in the 2011 email, saying that those applications could end up being the “vehicle to go to court” to get more clarity on a 2010 Supreme Court ruling on campaign finance rules.

}
Emails show IRS Lois Lerner specifically targeted tea party - Washington Times

The IRS simply vetted tax exempt organizations to see if they were entitled to the exemption. Not a scintilla of evidence that there was any directive from the administration to the IRS.

False, the IRS targeted enemies of Obama in an effort (successful) to corrupt the political process in America and influence the election in 2012.

You favour corruption when it serves your party, because you have utterly not integrity and only care about party.

So, lifelong Republican Lois Lerner, hired by the first George Bush investigated tea party groups, a political movement, because she thought they might be engaging in partisan politics and, therefore, not entitled to the tax exemption for non-partisan groups. That is called doing her job.

This is why most have Paddy on ignore.

So which of the idiots trying to respond to me have me on ignore?

 

[boedicca]

BHO told you he wanted to transform America: How do you like the results?

1. Police are criminals; Criminals are victims.
2. Religious beliefs made subservient to political correctness.
3. Astronomical debt repayments just around the corner.
4. IRS used as a weapon against political opponents.
5. A completely politicized Justice Department.
6. Corruption/deceit at the highest levels of government.

Are ANY of you happy with these developments? Where do you think we will end up?

It's all according to plan.

The original Social Contract in America involved a broad middle of Civil Society (families, churches, communities, businesses, farmers, volunteer associations, etc.) bounded on each by a small Restrained Government and the Anarchist/Criminal fringe. Big Government Progressives has systematically dismantled Civil Society to the extent that only vestiges are left. It's not a coincidence that the vacuum has been filled by both Big Government and Anarchy (these two have a codependent relationship).