Is this the only time in history that Dems are all about saving money?

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    I can't remember a single time the Dems ever cared about saving money.

    We still have Depression Era programs that Dems would kill their Grandparents before even considering cutting back the funding.

    Now, all of a sudden, when they want to nationalize the health care industry and start Euthanizing people they turn into Geico.

    What the fuck is going on?

    Do you see how high the stakes are for Dems to lie so blatantly?
     
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    My brother sent me this. He received it via email. In answer to your question, I'm gonna go with yes.


    "How quickly we forget....

    A little history lesson:

    Franklin Delano. Roosevelt
    32nd. President, Democrat
    Terms of Office March 4, 1933, to April 12, 1945

    Our Social Security

    Franklin Delano. Roosevelt (Terms of Office March 4, 1933, to April 12, 1945), a Democrat, introduced Social Security (FICA) Program. He Promised:

    1.) That participation in the Program would be Completely voluntary,

    2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program,

    3.) That the money the participants elected to put Into the Program would be deductible from Their income for tax purposes each year,

    4.) That the money the participants put into the Independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the General operating fund, and therefore, would Only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program, and

    5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.

    Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month -- and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to 'Put Away' -- you may be interested in the following:

    ----------THEN---------------------------------------------------

    Dwight David Eisenhower
    34th. President, Republican,
    Term Of Office: January 20, 1953 to January 20, 1961

    Insert by Vincent Peter Render,

    If I recall correctly, 1958 is the first year that Congress, not President Eisenhower, voted to remove funds from Social Security and put it into the General Fund for Congress to spend.

    If I recall correctly, it was a democratically controlled Congress.

    From what I understand, Congress' logic at that time was that there was so much money in Social Security Fund that it would never run out / be used up for the purpose it was intended / set aside for.

    -------------WORSE STILL------------------------------------------------

    Lyndon Baines Johnson 36th. President, Democrat
    Term Of Office: November 22, 1963 to January 20, 1969

    Question: Which Political Party took Social Security from the Independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the General Fund so that Congress could spend it?

    Answer: It was Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat, Term of Office: November 22,1963 to January 20, 1969) and the democratically Controlled House and Senate.

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    Question: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax Deduction for Social Security
    (FICA) withholding?

    Answer: The Democratic Party.

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    William Jefferson Clinton
    42nd. President
    Democrat Term of Office: January 20, 1993 to January 20, 2001

    Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.
    45th. Vice President
    Democrat Term of Office: January 20, 1993 to January 20, 2001

    Question: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

    Answer: The Democratic Party, with Albert Arnold Gore, Jr. (Al Gore) [Vice President Term of Office: January 10, 1993 to January 20, 2001] casting the 'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US ...

    ------------------THE STRAW THAT BROKE THE CAMEL'S BACK ----------------

    James Earl Carter, Jar
    39th President, Democrat
    Term of Office: January 20, 1977 to January 20, 1981

    Question: Which Political Party decided to start giving Annuity payments to immigrants?

    AND MY FAVORITE:

    ANSWER: That's right! JAMES EARL CARTER, JR. (jimmy CARTER) (DEMOCRAT, TERM OF OFFICE: JANUARY 20, 1977 TO JANUARY 20, 1981 AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
    IMMIGRANTS MOVED INTO THIS COUNTRY, AND AT AGE 65, BEGAN TO RECEIVE SOCIAL SECURITY PAYMENTS: THE DEMOCRATIC PARTYGAVE THESE PAYMENTS TO THEM, EVEN THOUGH THEY NEVER PAID A DIME INTO IT!

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    Then, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

    And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it!

    If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of Awareness will be planted and maybe changes WILL evolve! . Maybe not, some Democrats are awfully sure of what isn't so. But it's worth a try.
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    Thomas Jefferson
    3rd. President, Democrat
    Term of Office: January 20, 1777 to January 20, 1781

    "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have".
     
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    NOt only can it do so it almost certainly will. It is in the nature of any and all governments to Usurp as much power as the people over whom they rule will permit.

    And before I forget the Dems aren't all about saving money. they are all about lying about saving money.
     
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    How come no NeoMarxists want to address this?
     
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    The Government hacks say that Health Care must be reformed because it's too expensive and will kill the economy.

    Well then:

    Why does Obama say that you can keep your own plan if you like it? Uh, you mean the same plan that you say will destroy the economy?

    If Obama actually believed that then there would be no need for "Health Care Reform" would he?
     
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    Because you post nothing but opinion pieces without a scrap of factual evidence??
     
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    But how come you NeoMarxists never suggested ending any Depression Era Programs?

    Rural Electrification? Yeah? It's 2009!
     
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    SPECIFICALLY, which NeoMarxists in our government over the past 60 years are you referring to?
     
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    Still waiting...
     
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    They are attempting to appear fiscally responsible which is a joke. The problem with their national health care is once you put millions on this plan you essentially create another welfare state and when you do that you are stuck for eternity paying, paying and paying more. YOU NEVER CAN GET RID OF IT.
     

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