Is there anything in life worse to be than an armchair chickenhawk?

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    "I want you to go potentially die for my political opinion."



    If soldiers are out preaching for war with Iran, North Korea etc, so be it. But it's always amazed me how people can go as far as demanding more war when they're completely unwilling to make any sacrifice whatsoever for that cause.
     
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    That line of logic does not hold water. That is similar to saying a person does not want fires fought unless they are a fireman, or does not want streets cleaned of snow unless they go and become sanitation people and plow it themselves.

    The comparison might be valid in the case of a draft, where a person who supports a given war dodges a draft call up. Our millitary is volutary, and is under civillian control.It is the natural order for it to recive direction, and support from those not in uniform.
     
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    You can't compare asking for war to any other scenario, it's all apples and oranges.

    Asking someone to risk their life on a daily basis isn't even in the same ballpark as asking someone to plow roads.
     
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    Sorry, dude, but if you are able bodied and call for war you damn well better be prepared to fight in it.
     
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    Yes.

    War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

    John Stuart Mill​

     
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    So you ignore my whole firefighter analogy? Weak.

    Our society is one of specialization. Again if it was a draft, one would be obligated to go. But no draft, well, one doesnt.
     
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    Your analogy is weak. There is a big difference between fire fighting and fucking war, dude.
     
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    The people who complain about chickenhawks are likely are the same people who would complain about peace activists.
     
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    Your post just reinforces my point, my point is these people aren't willing to fight, they're "willing" to demand others fight.

    It's like when you were in college, there was always that little wimp holding the coats trying to rile up other guys to fight at a bar, that's what I equate armchair chickenhawks too.
     
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    If there was a draft, then yes, i would agree with ya. But as our force is voluenteer, and there was no massive call for voluenteers as the british did during early WWI there is no stigma attached to supporting millitary solutions to problems without being in the millitatry.

    Again, we have CIVILIAN control of our armed forces.
     

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