Is the idea of Congress itself fundamentally flawed?

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    You left out ending the abridging of the ultimate PURPOSE of free speech. To enable the unity adequate to alter or abolish.

    That WILL require a lawful and peaceful revolution .

    In order to restore the lawful intent of congress, the people will have to lead them with majority from states made constitutional.

    Term limits are a good idea, but the basic intents are far more important and corporations buy elections with money buying exposure for candidates.

    If the Supreme Court allowed unlimited finance, they are not constitutional. If that benefits congress members, there is collusion.

    Lincoln, 1859, "the people are the rightful masters if the congress and the court". This is because we are the only entity that can define constitutional intent. We do that by agreement upon it.

    Article V is the intent of alter or abolish codified. To use it we must control our states.

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    By the same reasoning, direct vote (through secure links) by the populace would trend to the general good while being immune to lobbying excesses and influence peddling.
    The Senate's place would be to maintain the republican part of the democracy by avoiding hasty errors.
     
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    The Six Nations Iroquois Confederacy had a huge impact upon the framers.

    Thank God! At least someone bothered to study the ideas our Founding Fathers had to work with!

    I'm amazed.
     
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    If they had fully constitutional intent, I agree.

    How did your last test of their intent go?
     
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    No less than I am by your instant acceptance. I thought for sure "long knife" was a sword:)

    Maybe we can go a step further and you can set an IMPORTANT example of understanding of Indigenous philosophy, and respect for natural law. Indeed, fundamental human societal philosophy, and respect for natural law.

    Do you agree and accept that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable unity adequate to alter or abolish government destructive to unalienable rights?
     
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    I would agree immediately, but know that; democracy relies on opinion, opinion relies on information and information comes from media.

    Media is controlled by the oligarchy. With information from their media, we will never have a unified opinion that is capable of voting fully in our interests.

    With a lawful and peaceful revolution, we can;End the abridging of free speech and the abridging of freedom of the press, secure the vote and create campaign finance reform.

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    We're still ahead of how influence works on the corporate representatives that pass for members of the House.

    Besides, we have the Internet and blogs like these to vet things.
     
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    Worked great for Mao, Stalin, Hitler and the Caesars after Julius
     
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    Or we think we do. Perhaps like, "those who think they know the truth are the most deceived of all".

    What if since 1998 or so, a massive psyops had descended upon the Internet forums, blogs, chat, web sites, YouTube, the works? Where up to 50% of what appears popular is really artificially made to look that way.

    Then, the unwitting partake of discussion which slowly adjusts their perceptions and thinking into something that can never function.

    It looks sort of functional, makes noises like it thinks it is functional, talks about things that are on the TV ETC, but really is mostly erroneous hyperbole. Really existing as an outlet, an expression because if it threatened to become anything more, dozens of covert manipulators AND those conditioned to behave that way, yo follow that lead, step in and quash any unity leading to functional action.

    It's not like real issues do not come up, but it's like they are overtaken by the unreal, the inconsequential, the immaterial, but those usurping issues are made, artificially to appear functional enough to merit discussion.

    What if?
     
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    I guess you never read any papers that the Founders wrote. The whole reason why our government was set up the way it is was to BE adversarial. They realized that any government that works together too easily will very quickly become corrupt. Why am I not surprised that you would vote for a dictatorship. Here's the problem though, you elect the first one, he decides he wants to stay. How exactly do you get rid of him then?

    Not a very deep amount of thinking went into your post.
     
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