Is the idea of Congress itself fundamentally flawed?

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    If 435 people's approval is required to get things done isn't that a systemic failure waiting to happen? Isn't it more effective the fewer people required, and optimally just 1?

    Abolish Congress and the Presidency, and reform the USA as an elected dictatorship. 1 head of state is elected for a single 10 year term. Then they're out and someone else is elected.

    1 person with absolute power can get things done. 436 can't decide on a lunch order let alone anyting important.
     
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    "Is the idea of Congress itself fundamentally flawed?"

    No.

    The flaw manifests with citizens who don't understand what a republican form of government is, and make the mistake of perceiving the United States as a 'democracy.'
     
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    We are not a Dictatorship and don't need one. Representative republics have .... derp derp..

    You guessed it! Representatives.

    One man with ten years of power could fundamentally transform our entire Country and make it not our own anymore, in ten years. Its an idiotic idea, for a plethora of reasons - none of which could ever occur to the child-like mind if the OP.
     
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    Obviously, the Kool-Aid has taken its toll this morning. You can't be serious, can you?

    The problem is not one of having a Congress consisting of representatives from different states, the problem lies in the absence of control over the Congress. Once elected to office, Congresspersons exert their will, and not the will of the people. This is what needs to be addressed.
     
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    One-person ruling systems of government were the norm a long while before democracies came about.
     
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    The real question is:

    Which one person, in this or any other country, would you want to have sole control of the country for a 10 year period?

    Bush? (either one)

    Clinton? (either one)

    Sanders?

    Cruz?

    Rubio?
     
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    And, if they were so good, they'd still be around, everywhere.
     
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    Vatican City springs readily to mind as an example of a monarchy (where the monarch actually rules and isn't just ceremonial.) A few of the arab countries have em as well. And there's many others with constitutional/ceremonial monarchs like Sweden.

    Democracy doesn't work when the population exceeds the number of governmental leaders as we have here. Excellent bit here,

    "Democracy? We tend to think that Democracy offers us freedom of choice, but in the last 40 years, we have had little effective input into most of the political decisions that affect our lives.

    Do we have a truly Democratic system when most of us never even meet our Representatives at the various levels of Government? Even our State and City representatives probably don't know us and our views about the laws and regulations they pass. The only people most of them see on a regular basis are the lobbyists, who consequently have a disproportionately large influence on those laws and regulations.

    Democracy and Optimum Population Size: 2500 years ago, Aristotle considered the best size for a city and concluded that a large increase in population would bring, "certain poverty on the citizenry, and poverty is the cause of sedition and evil." He considered that a city of over 100,000 people would exclude most citizens from a voice in government.

    To get an idea of what the founders of the United States had in mind for our representative Democracy, at the low end, the Constitution says (Article 1, Section 2) that a Representative to the House should represent a minimum of 30,000 people. When the Constitution was written, the United States had a total population of around 2.5 million, and the Constitution allocated 65 Representatives to the 13 states. So each Representative of "the People's House" had about 38,500 constituents. Currently each Representative has 712,650 constituents. It's really a form of irony today to call it "the People's House" when only wealthy donors and paid lobbyists really have the ear of your "representatives." What we have now is not Democracy in the sense intended by the country's founders. "
    Effects of Overpopulation on the Environment and Society HowMany.org

    We have a democracy in name-only sort of government.
     
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    There was a time when the Congress got along well and earned its keep but now all we
    see is obstructionism. Perhaps a parliamentary system would be better suited to serve the
    needs of so many factions. Dictatorships seldom work to the advantage of the common people.
     
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    If you look at every other form of governance in the world, there is absolutely none even close to ours!
     

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