Is nation building progressive or conservative?

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    Seems pretty progressive to me.
     
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    If you are using the word progressive to mean totalitarian, you are right.
     
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    Depends on which nation you are building. If it is somebody else's nation, not progressive at all. If it is our own, yes, that is progressive.

    In this nation, we have neglected our infrastructure in a manner that borders on insane. From the water systems that our urban areas depend on, to the bridges on our great interstate system, the state of disrepair is a shame to our nation.

    We have a grid that is an antique, and wastes huge amounts of energy, energy that we need. It no longer goes to where the energy is at, and is extremely vulneble to natural disasters. Our system of pipelines, oil and gas, has a high percentage of pipes that are currently being ran at one half capacity or less because of age and weakness, and explosians and fatalities because of that seem to be an almost monthly occurance.

    We need to be doing some major nation building right here at home.
     
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    Well-heeled interests building governments, complete with security forces, on tracts of real estate and calling them nations for the purpose of efficiently extracting as much resources at the highest profit possible has a certain successful history on this planet, but at what cost? How many totalitarian regimes simply took the military from the puppets installed by nation builders?

    If 'teaching democracy by setting a good example' is considered Nation Building, I could get behind that.
     
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    That is what we were founded to be. A beacon of the democratic process for other nations to aspire to.
     
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    Yet today the conservative movement has made voter fraud an issue and wants to restrict the ability to vote in many states.
    Stating this is not a strategy to gain power is utter bullshit; there is no evidence to suggest other means cannot be established to prevent fraud. The New Right hopes to disenfranchise citizens who might not vote their way.
     
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    It sure as hell isnt the reason we came together for that common defense.


    Progressive or conservative, it is a big government function.
     
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    It started out as a progressive idea..which failed.

    But like so many failed ideas..Conservatives picked it up. :clap2:
     
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    Which Government?
     
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    Yes dear. Whatever you say. No matter how fucking nonsensical it is.
     

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