Is Heaven and Hell a choice?

Discussion in 'Religion and Ethics' started by Divine.Wind, Aug 14, 2011.

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Whether we go to Heaven or Hell is a choice, not a sentence.

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  1. Divine.Wind
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    The concepts put forth in this book dove-tail with my own beliefs. The idea that someone can eternally damned to Hell doesn't jive with the concept of a merciful, all-loving God. The only thing that fits would be that we condemn ourselves. Therefore, we also release ourselves.

    'Love Wins': Pastor's book kindles firestorm over hell - USATODAY.com

    This column expounds on the concept:

    Should believers fear Hell and God? - USATODAY.com
     
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    In my tradition, heaven and hell are temporary realms, and neither is to be aspired to.

    We go for enlightenment, not heaven.
     
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    Unless a person believes heaven is enlightenment and hell is ignorance.

    Kinda puts a new spin on that whole "Tree of Knowledge" thing.
     
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    Of course it's a choice.
     
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    Naah it is not a choice. Dead is dead, end of game.
     
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    Once one is taught the way it is a choice as to whether they stay or return to the way or wander off on their own. God does not force anyone one way or the other. Claiming that because he is a forgiving God that he won't send anyone to permanent death is foolish.

    As to Heaven and Hell? There is no fiery Hell of damnation, never has been never will be one. When you are dead you are dead. No knowledge no sense nothing. The Bible calls it like as if you were asleep.

    And Heaven? Only 144000 go to that place, everyone else is reborn into a perfect body with no disease or sickness and they live under God's Kingdom on a restored Earth. The 144000 are those that will aid Jesus as he rules Earth for God.
     
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    The key is choosing the path of forgiveness and correction
    instead of judgment and punishment as a consequence for retribution.

    The same choices in life that lead to peace and justice, healing and harmony,
    are the same choices that would lead to heaven or heavenly peace on earth.

    The same choices in life that lead to war and suffering
    are the same in terms of hell, on earth or beyond.

    Heaven and hell, or peace vs. suffering, are the consequences of actions.
    In a way, it is reward and punishment, but on all humanity collectively.
    If anyone suffers, we all suffer on some level.
    Where we work to prevent or correct problems, we all benefit on the whole.

    We learn by conscience, trial and error, cause and effect
    to seek what is going to set us free from past wrongs and injustice
    and what is going to bring sustainable solutions for the greater good of humanity.
     
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    Yes it's a choice.
     

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