Is Green Industry Collapsing?

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    It appears to be so. Spain has recently scaled back its subsidy programs for wind and solar (because they weren't performing as advertised) and France and Germany are following suit. Ontario Canada may be next in line as the renewable energy industry continues to fail to meet expectations.

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    Europeans are currently cutting spending in every area, from Army to higher retirement-ages.
    Off course, this also includes subsidies be it in energy or other sectors.

    The EU has defined strategic goals. One of them is to increase share of renewable energies in total electricity production.
    There is no renewable-energy collapse, just less money to spend.
     
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    I don't agree with this statement. If the renewable enrgy programs worked then it would be stupid to discontinue the subsidies. The whole point is to save on energy costs and help clean the environment. Of course we have seen in Spain that because the solar power plants were not capable of producing enough energy to meet demand that diesel generators were placed on the solar power sites to provide power when the green plant wasn't able to meet the demand...so there goes the environmental concerns. And the correlary to that is of course the cost is astronomical compared to fossil fuels.
     
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    They are cutting spending, Green energies work they just cost more up front so they are bing put on the back burner for lack of funds.
    It is cheaper for now to go with the way things are. Change costs money.
     
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    Ask those who shipped our manufacturing jobs overseas and invented ways to package, rate and trade in unregulated derivitives.
     
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    Why focus on solar energy?
    It just makes 2 per-cent of Spanish electricity production.

    Website is company of Spanish-Electricity Grid provider, which runs the grid on mainland and on the islands of Spain.
    Shows data for March 2010, renewable energy is 45,1 % of total electricity being put into grid.
    Solar just 2 per cent.
    Notas de prensa > Sala de prensa > Red Elctrica de Espaa


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    Westwall you either stupid or a liar..or..you don't do your homework ...I find that odd in a pilot..If you really are a pilot.

    Spain was the hardest hit of all the European countries in the collapse we started. Harder than both Greece and Ireland.

    They are cutting back on EVERYTHING! What REALLY did not perform for them or any one else were our fraudulently rated bonds.
     

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