iraqi death squads

[jodylee]

It was first brought to my attention when i saw despaches, channel 4, iraqi death squads. which was shown 7 nov 06. there plenty of articles on it. im sure you know this.

 

[Darwins Friend]

It was first brought to my attention when i saw despaches, channel 4, iraqi death squads. which was shown 7 nov 06. there plenty of articles on it. im sure you know this.

So your "opinion" is beared out by various news stories and correspondents that have spoken with doctors in morgues, in Iraq, but not one piece of evidence shows that any WMD system, chemical, device has been found after being smuggled out of the same country?

 

[manu1959]

why do you care if they are all killing each other ? why do you care who is killing whom?

all you want is for Bush to be wrong, the US to pull out of iraq and leave them all to kill each other....so you can say ... see told you so ....

you see success is not something you want on any level .... for it is something you have been unable to obtain as it it the fault of others you have not obtained it

 

[manu1959]

So your "opinion" is beared out by various news stories and correspondents that have spoken with doctors in morgues, in Iraq, but not one piece of evidence shows that any WMD system, chemical, device has been found after being smuggled out of the same country?

wmd systems and componts were found in iraq.....read the blix report

 

[jodylee]

why do you care if they are all killing each other ? why do you care who is killing whom?

all you want is for Bush to be wrong, the US to pull out of iraq and leave them all to kill each other....so you can say ... see told you so ....

you see success is not something you want on any level .... for it is something you have been unable to obtain as it it the fault of others you have not obtained it

On the contrary, although i disagreed with the war happening in the first place, now it has happened the US and UK should stay in iraq untill the job is done.

 

[Darwins Friend]

wmd systems and componts were found in iraq.....read the blix report

U.N.: Iraq had no WMD after 1994
By Bill Nichols, USA TODAY

UNITED NATIONS — A report from U.N. weapons inspectors to be released today says they now believe there were no weapons of mass destruction of any significance in Iraq after 1994, according to two U.N. diplomats who have seen the document.

The historical review of inspections in Iraq is the first outside study to confirm the recent conclusion by David Kay, the former U.S. chief inspector, that Iraq had no banned weapons before last year's U.S-led invasion. It also goes further than prewar U.N. reports, which said no weapons had been found but noted that Iraq had not fully accounted for weapons it was known to have had at the end of the Gulf War in 1991.

The report, to be outlined to the U.N. Security Council as early as Friday, is based on information gathered over more than seven years of U.N. inspections in Iraq before the 2003 war, plus postwar findings discussed publicly by Kay.

Kay reported in October that his team found "dozens of WMD-related program activities" that Iraq was required to reveal to U.N. inspectors but did not.

However, he said he found no actual WMDs.

The study, a quarterly report on Iraq from U.N. inspectors, notes that the U.S. teams' inability to find any weapons after the war mirrors the experience of U.N. inspectors who searched there from November 2002 until March 2003.

Many Bush administration officials were harshly critical of the U.N. inspection efforts in the months before the war. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said in August 2002 that inspections "will be a sham."

The Bush administration also pointedly declined U.N. offers to help in the postwar weapons hunt, preferring instead to use U.S. inspectors and specialists from other coalition countries such as Britain and Australia.

But U.N. reports submitted to the Security Council before the war by Hans Blix, former chief U.N. arms inspector, and Mohamed ElBaradei, head of the U.N.'s nuclear watchdog agency, have been largely validated by U.S. weapons teams. The common findings:

Iraq's nuclear weapons program was dormant.

No evidence was found to suggest Iraq possessed chemical or biological weapons. U.N. officials believe the weapons were destroyed by U.N. inspectors or Iraqi officials in the years after the 1991 Gulf War.

Iraq was attempting to develop missiles capable of exceeding a U.N.-mandated limit of 93 miles.

Demetrius Perricos, the acting executive chairman of the U.N. inspection teams, said in an interview that the failure to find banned weapons in Iraq since the war undercuts administration criticism of the U.N.'s search before the war.

"You cannot say that only the Americans or the British or the Australians currently inspecting in Iraq are the clever inspectors — and the Americans and the British and the Australians that we had were not," he said.

 

[insein]

Thats funny cause the UN is contradicting itself then. How about a link for your report.

http://www.thevanguard.org/thevanguard/columns/040618.shtml?ID=13323
http://www.nysun.com/article/26514
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3872201.stm
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,124924,00.html
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/07/07/iraq.nuclear/index.html
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPrint.asp?Page=\SpecialReports\archive\200410\SPE20041004a.html

UN Confirms: WMDs Smuggled Out of Iraq
© June 18, 2004, Rod D. Martin

In a report which might alternately be termed “stunning” or “terrifying”, United Nations weapons inspectors confirmed last week not merely that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, but that he smuggled them out of his country, before, during and after the war.

Late last week, the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) briefed the Security Council on Saddam's lightning-fast dismantling of missile and WMD sites before and during the war. UNMOVIC executive chairman Demetrius Perricos detailed not only the export of thousands of tons of missile components, nuclear reactor vessels and fermenters for chemical and biological warheads, but also the discovery of many (but not most) of these items - with UN inspection tags still on them -- as far afield as Jordan, Turkey and even Holland.

continued in link above

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

Can’t yet - don’t you know the posting rules of your own board after 5,941 posts?

Actually that is something new I just added to help stop spammers, so we can all give a round of breaks

 

[Darwins Friend]

Well - let me get to '15' and you'll see a link - every time.

 

[manu1959]

i guess the missles blix reported met the definition of wmd delivery systems and the crushed on tv were not real....

 

[insein]

Actually that is something new I just added to help stop spammers, so we can all give a round of breaks

I see.

 

[Annie]

I see.

I understand. Really.

 

[Darwins Friend]

Thats funny cause the UN is contradicting itself then. How about a link for your report.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-03-02-un-wmd_x.htm

 

[manu1959]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-03-02-un-wmd_x.htm

"A report from U.N. weapons inspectors to be released today says they now believe there were no weapons of mass destruction of any significance in Iraq after 1994...."


why the qualifier? oh that must be because something was found....and saddam claimed he had none...and the left claimed they had none....if they had none....then the qulaifier would not be necessary....guess they had some...guess that violates the treaty and the un resolutions guess the invasion was just....smoke me

 

[Gunny]

"A report from U.N. weapons inspectors to be released today says they now believe there were no weapons of mass destruction of any significance in Iraq after 1994...."


why the qualifier? oh that must be because something was found....and saddam claimed he had none...and the left claimed they had none....if they had none....then the qulaifier would not be necessary....guess they had some...guess that violates the treaty and the un resolutions guess the invasion was just....smoke me

Saddam got busted in 93 with an active bio lab.

 

[Darwins Friend]

Saddam got busted in 93 with an active bio lab.

And that has what to do with a rushed invasion in 2003?

 

[manu1959]

And that has what to do with a rushed invasion in 2003?

it wasn't rushed it was well planned and well executed....

oh and we had been negotiating with him for ten years

 

[Darwins Friend]

it wasn't rushed it was well planned and well executed....

oh and we had been negotiating with him for ten years

If it was so well planned – please show me a list of nations willing to participate in the coalition – versus Gulf I.

 

[manu1959]

If it was so well planned – please show me a list of nations willing to participate in the coalition – versus Gulf I.

changing the topic....admiting defeat after one post...pity

the list was virtually the same except for those that had been profiting from breaking the embargo; germany,france;china and russia.....

tell me, who voted that iraq had violated 18 un resolutions and deserved severe consequences unless they complied with the terms of the kuwait withdrawl....ah yes; germany,france, china, and russia....

why did they vote one way and do another....hmmmmmmmmmm...could have been wepon sales an oil profits could it

 

[Darwins Friend]

Really? Interesting you left Saudi Arabia out of the mix.......hmmmm.