iraqi death squads

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    Night after night death squads rampage through Iraq's main cities. In Baghdad, up to a hundred bodies a day are dumped on the streets. Often they've been tortured with electric drills. Yet those doing the killing have little to do with al Qaeda or Sunni insurgents. The majority of the killings are carried out by Shia death squads who want to turn Iraq into a Shia state aligned to Iran.
    in turn sunnis set car bombs in shia area as revenge. this is picked up by the media as insugency, as this is policaliy more convienient as can be linked to terrorisum.
    Im not saying insugency doesn't exsist but it is just one part of the picture.

    the minister for the interior Bayan Jabr needs to be removed, I have no dought he is the man behind the death squads, and so do many senior us officals.

    I predict the only end to this violence is to split the country, just like the british did with india and pakestan.
     
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    proof? link? or is this just from your mind?
     
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    Post relevant citations and evidence. This means post links to news articles which support your claims, or they will be nothing more than idle speculation on your part, and spam for those here. Intelligent discourse requires facts and logic, and not merely emotional or sensational remarks.

    Have a nice day.
     
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    when my prediction turns out to be true, thats evidence enough. just like my predictions before the war, when I, and the most of the world said, dont go into iraq, its a mistake. if it wasn't why did rumsfeld give up his possition. Im sure you will tel me other some excuse why.
     
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    This is not a prediction its a statement of fact. Now back it up...
     
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    I ment the predition at the end, but anyway.
    Why did Zalmay Khalilzad US ambassador call for the sacking of Bayan Jabr
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    "It will be important that the head of security ministries be trusted by all communities and not come from elements of the population that have militias."

    why is he not trusted by comunities, dont you think the people that live in iraq know a bit more than you do.

    As well as the two US advisers to Bayan Jabr. who,at the very start of the governments forming, advised the US gov to remove him, They themselves where removed. Who knows more than the people who are embeded.
    you will never get concreat evidence, this does not mean it isn't happening if you listen to enough people in possitions of authority saying the same thing it is ignorant to say they are talking rubbish
     
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    You don't seem to understand what we are asking of you. We have no idea who you are so we have no reason to believe anything you say if you don't back up what you are saying with links to verify it all.
    The least you could do is introduce yourself being new to the board. Shed some light on who you are and where you are from...
     
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    why would you want to know who i am im just trying to get an idea of what americans think is going on in iraq. Im not from any possition of authority and I have no hidden agenda. if you must know who I am this is my myspace address: oh, it wont let me
    If this forum only takes you seriously or bothers to talk if you have a specific experience that can back up stories with personal experience, then Its not the forum for me. I just like to express my opinion and hope for a counter argument, its a laugh, play the game.
    I would like to know wether the death squad issue has ever been raised in this forum.
     
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    Well that pretty much sums it up.
     
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    If you cannot back up your statements with fact, then simply refer to your statements as being "opinion." If you have facts and logic to support your position, then present that evidence and feel free to refer to it as "fact."

    For instance, I could say that that the Sun revolves around the Earth. Now if I claim this as "fact," then I had better have some citations to back up that "fact." However, if I say "I believe the Sun revolves around the Earth," then I have stated an opinion, which does NOT require any supporting evidence. Everyone has opinions, and those opinions are valid for the individual. however, when you wish to assert something as "fact," be ready to demonstrate exactly why it is a fact.

    BTW, wikipedia sources are NOT fact. They might lead you to other sources which provide verification, but in and of themselves, wikipedia entries have little weight.
     

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