IRAQ is coming apart at the seams.

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  1. longknife
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    by Bill Corcoran @ Corksphere blog. He is about as left-wing and anti-war as any blog I subscribe to but it's good to get another viewpoint. Here, he reports on something the Lame Street Media is ignoring and I fully agree with is supositions here.

    Read more @ CORKSPHERE: Iraq Bloodbath: 54 Killed, 237 Wounded in Attacks against Shi’ite Pilgrims and Security Forces -- Antiwar.com

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    longknife, et al,

    Actually, the Bill Corcoran article mere restates a portion of the Margaret Griffis, AntiWar.com article of November 29, 2012; at the cited link.

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    Don't be confused.

    It is not a real bloodbath; but the Iraq Intervention by the US/Coalition did not leave much of an improved country after the Post-Conflict Operations of CJTF-7/ORHA, MNFI, and USF-I; or seven years of civil/military assistance.

    Nouri al-Maliki is the Prime Minister (PM) of an Islamic Republic; a bum of an official which once had US backing but is now an Iranian stooge. It is a corrupt government, brutal in nature, and nearly as close to a dictatorship as a government can be without actually being a dictatorship. The PM is using the US supplied and trained Iraqi security and police forces (ISF) to contain political rivals; and supplements the ISF with criminal gang members and violent militant factions to intimidate rival segments of the civilian population. It was not 24 hours after the last of USF-I withdrew and rolled into Kuwait, that the PM ordered the arrest of the Sunni Vice President Tariq al-Hashimi, accusing him of running a death squad that assassinated police officers and government officials.

    The National Strategy for the Victory in Iraq, defined "victory" in three (3) Phases:
    National Strategy for Victory in Iraq

    • Short term:
    Iraq needs to
    • progress in fighting terrorists,
    • meet political milestones,
    • build democratic institutions, and
    • foster the growing security forces.
    • Medium term:
    Iraq is in the lead
    • defeating terrorists,
    • providing its own security,
    • fostering the constitutional government, and
    • beginning economic development.
    • Longer term:
    Iraq should strive for being:
    • peaceful,
    • united,
    • stable,
    • secure,
    • integrated into the international community, and
    • a full partner in the global War on Terrorism.

    Iraq may be destine for ethnic conflict in two aspects; Arab-Kurd and Shiite-Sunni. But it is clear that Iraq is not the nation that the US envisioned in 2003 or even 2005. One needs only compare the stated definition of "Victory" to the Iraq we find today.

    You don't have to trust my evaluation. Do the comparison.

    Most Respectfully,
    R
     
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    Sectarian violence wiping out our hard-fought efforts toward bringing peace to Iraq...
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    Wave of car bombings in Iraq kills at least 58
    July 29, 2013 - — More than a dozen explosions, mainly from car bombs, ripped through marketplaces, parking lots, a cafe and rush-hour crowds in Iraq on Monday, killing at least 58 people and pushing the country's death toll for the month of July toward the 700 mark, officials said.
     
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    I think we all knew that it wouldn't last.
     
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    Guess that old nation building thingie didn't work out so well.
     
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    Sectarian violence shootin' Iraq in the foot...
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    Iraq is bleeding U.N. envoy says
    Tuesday 30th July, 2013 -- It's up to political leaders in Iraq to ensure the country pulls back from the brink of widespread sectarian violence, a U.N. special envoy said.
     
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    What a sad mess. I couldn't even imagine being raised in a country like that.

    I'm a bit cynical, and believe the war was started not for the "good of the people of Iraq" but rather as a vehicle for making large powerful interests a lot of money. I wonder how some of the decision makers can sleep at night knowing that the money that purchased their big homes and a nice relaxing life came at the cost of destabilizing a nation and killing scores in the process.

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    A country like that?

    Destabilize government.

    Arm everyone.

    Church rule.

    Hatred of minorities.

    No women's rights.

    Suppress voter's rights.

    No health care.

    Hmmm, now where have I heard this dreadful ideology before?
     
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    Saddam had Iraq under control.

    But the zionist leadership of Israel wanted Iraq broken up and weakened.

    And tasked it's 'bitch' the U.S with the job.

    So under the guise of revenge for 9/11 and patriotism the idea was sold to the American public.

    The U.S. gained nothing for it's invasion and effort; except a trillion $ in debt and tens of thousands of soldiers killed or wounded.

    But Israel had it's goal of a destabilized Iraq realized without spending a sheqel or losing a single soldier. ... :cool:
     
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    Doesn’t sound like an ideology I’m familiar with.


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