Iraq Deputy PM blames 2003 occupation on country's state now

[JimH52]

Iraq Deputy PM Ramadi surprised all of us - CNN.com

Like many analyzing how Iraq has gotten to this point, al-Mutlaq pointed at least in part to the American decision to disband the Iraqi military after its 2003 invasion, and send droves of suddenly disaffected -- and military-trained -- Sunnis into the streets.

"First you should not dissolve the Iraqi army, and the Americans did dissolve the Iraqi army.

"And then, we said since you have already decided to dissolve the Iraqi army, now you have to build a national army, which is not sectarian, which is a professional army.

"But unfortunately, the army was built in a way that the militias was entered in it, and also it was not built on a national basis, but on a sectarian one," he said.

"Unfortunately, the withdrawal was not in a responsible way. So the occupation was wrong, and the withdrawal was wrong also. Both of them are wrong steps, which led to what we are now. Now we have to act immediately."

He is exactly right. The nation building theory of the Bush administration was both wrong and mislead, because they never understood the secular nature of Iraq.

 

[Porker]

It proved you needed a dictator running the country in the MUSLIM WORLD. One that would not only kill his enemies but would kill his OWN DAMN PEOPLE...with poison chemicals. Trying to set up a democratic system over there is as impossible as it gets.

Despite what these idiots claimed.

 

[JakeStarkey]

George W. Bush was the decider for what in Iraq, Porker, and everything since then has flowed from his flawed vision.

 

[Porker]

George W. Bush was the decider for what in Iraq, Porker, and everything since then has flowed from his flawed vision.

The only democrat who chickened out of invading Iraq (Chappaquiddick Teddy) is now dead. The rest of those sorry bastards are still alive and kicking and the flawed vision was all over their sorry asses, Jakey boy.

 

[JakeStarkey]

George W. Bush was the decider for what in Iraq, Porker, and everything since then has flowed from his flawed vision.

The only democrat who chickened out of invading Iraq (Chappaquiddick Teddy) is now dead. The rest of those sorry bastards are still alive and kicking and the flawed vision was all over their sorry asses, Jakey boy.

Only Bush could say let's go. It's on him.

 

[tinydancer]

George W. Bush was the decider for what in Iraq, Porker, and everything since then has flowed from his flawed vision.

The only democrat who chickened out of invading Iraq (Chappaquiddick Teddy) is now dead. The rest of those sorry bastards are still alive and kicking and the flawed vision was all over their sorry asses, Jakey boy.

Only Bush could say let's go. It's on him.

Are you saying President Bush never needed the Congress's approval?

 

[tinydancer]

Iraq Deputy PM Ramadi surprised all of us - CNN.com

Like many analyzing how Iraq has gotten to this point, al-Mutlaq pointed at least in part to the American decision to disband the Iraqi military after its 2003 invasion, and send droves of suddenly disaffected -- and military-trained -- Sunnis into the streets.

"First you should not dissolve the Iraqi army, and the Americans did dissolve the Iraqi army.

"And then, we said since you have already decided to dissolve the Iraqi army, now you have to build a national army, which is not sectarian, which is a professional army.

"But unfortunately, the army was built in a way that the militias was entered in it, and also it was not built on a national basis, but on a sectarian one," he said.

"Unfortunately, the withdrawal was not in a responsible way. So the occupation was wrong, and the withdrawal was wrong also. Both of them are wrong steps, which led to what we are now. Now we have to act immediately."

He is exactly right. The nation building theory of the Bush administration was both wrong and mislead, because they never understood the secular nature of Iraq.

Good grief. Every fucked up analysis that lays out..."in the beginning there was GW Bush..." and makes a bizarre historical analysis beginning with his term in office is FUBAR'D.

It's idiotic. It's off the charts stupid. It's moronic.

Hell's bells if one knows their history and one wants to point at an individual in the past who truly messed up and created the mess that is modern day Iraq, blame freaking Churchill.

 

[Mr. H.]

How many Democrats voted for it?

 

[JimH52]

It proved you needed a dictator running the country in the MUSLIM WORLD. One that would not only kill his enemies but would kill his OWN DAMN PEOPLE...with poison chemicals. Trying to set up a democratic system over there is as impossible as it gets.

Despite what these idiots claimed.

Yup, those Dems actually thought W was telling them the truth. A recovering alcoholic will say anything for a drink...

 

[there4eyeM]

...lots of criminals...

 

[JimH52]

Iraq Deputy PM Ramadi surprised all of us - CNN.com

Like many analyzing how Iraq has gotten to this point, al-Mutlaq pointed at least in part to the American decision to disband the Iraqi military after its 2003 invasion, and send droves of suddenly disaffected -- and military-trained -- Sunnis into the streets.

"First you should not dissolve the Iraqi army, and the Americans did dissolve the Iraqi army.

"And then, we said since you have already decided to dissolve the Iraqi army, now you have to build a national army, which is not sectarian, which is a professional army.

"But unfortunately, the army was built in a way that the militias was entered in it, and also it was not built on a national basis, but on a sectarian one," he said.

"Unfortunately, the withdrawal was not in a responsible way. So the occupation was wrong, and the withdrawal was wrong also. Both of them are wrong steps, which led to what we are now. Now we have to act immediately."

He is exactly right. The nation building theory of the Bush administration was both wrong and mislead, because they never understood the secular nature of Iraq.

Good grief. Every fucked up analysis that lays out..."in the beginning there was GW Bush..." and makes a bizarre historical analysis beginning with his term in office is FUBAR'D.

It's idiotic. It's off the charts stupid. It's moronic.

Hell's bells if one knows their history and one wants to point at an individual in the past who truly messed up and created the mess that is modern day Iraq, blame freaking Churchill.

It was LBJ.....and now you are blaming Churchill. Good grief! Maybe it was Julius Caesar? I mean there has GOT to be a scapegoat for W somewhere....

 

[there4eyeM]

Iraq Deputy PM blames 2003 occupation on country's state now

How dare he (observe historical fact and then state it) ?!

 

[JakeStarkey]

George W. Bush was the decider for what in Iraq, Porker, and everything since then has flowed from his flawed vision.

The only democrat who chickened out of invading Iraq (Chappaquiddick Teddy) is now dead. The rest of those sorry bastards are still alive and kicking and the flawed vision was all over their sorry asses, Jakey boy.

Only Bush could say let's go. It's on him.

Are you saying President Bush never needed the Congress's approval?

Immaterial. He was the one who pulled the trigger. No one else could do it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The fact "in the beginning there was GWB." Anybody who will not acknowledge this offers nothing worthwhile. He alone pulled the trigger.

 

[tinydancer]

The fact "in the beginning there was GWB." Anybody who will not acknowledge this offers nothing worthwhile. He alone pulled the trigger.

Bullshit. I know you have a hard on for Bush but your stance is to deny reality and the truth of history.

History is not a fucking opinion 'mmmmkay? Now you have a right to your own opinion BUT you have no right to your own facts.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The fact "in the beginning there was GWB." Anybody who will not acknowledge this offers nothing worthwhile. He alone pulled the trigger.

Bullshit. I know you have a hard on for Bush but your stance is to deny reality and the truth of history.

History is not a fucking opinion 'mmmmkay? Now you have a right to your own opinion BUT you have no right to your own facts.

You have described yourself, td. The fact is that it begins with GWB. No other opinion has any merit. Your comments do not make your false analysis any less false.

 

[JimH52]

George W. Bush was the decider for what in Iraq, Porker, and everything since then has flowed from his flawed vision.

The only democrat who chickened out of invading Iraq (Chappaquiddick Teddy) is now dead. The rest of those sorry bastards are still alive and kicking and the flawed vision was all over their sorry asses, Jakey boy.

Only Bush could say let's go. It's on him.

Are you saying President Bush never needed the Congress's approval?

Immaterial. He was the one who pulled the trigger. No one else could do it.

If you recall, many of our usual allies did not believe Ws assertion about WMD. Remember "American Fries" that the W administration's pushed. Turns out the French were right......it was cooked intelligence.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Whoa...Someone blamed Bush for doing something that effected something else?

Thats an obvious sign of a...a...Bush hater!!!!

 

[JakeStarkey]

 

[BullKurtz]

First off, leftist hero Bob Woodward has just decreed that Bush DID NOT LIE prior to the invasion and had in fact, asked Tenet not to fabricate anything to gin up support. I can almost hear the crestfallen progs reading this readying their claims that the man who "got Nixon" has sold out.

Further, the Iraqi army could hardly NOT be broken up at the end of hostilities. Without going into too much detail, that army has little in common with US or european military forces...they often left their units and walked home for some family event, had to be talked into following orders, and spent most of their time sleeping or laying around.

As to militias joining the new national army, since the beginning of time that's how armies were raised....including our own Revolutionary and Civil wars...right up to WW2 where whole fraternities and football teams signed up. They were quickly dispersed into other units as were the Iraqis.

OP is a total FAIL.