Iran will rule the ME w/o firing a single shot

[Two Thumbs]

They will back Hezbolla, and Hezbolla will get elected into seats of power and do and Iran commands.

'Day of rage' as Hezbollah gains power in Lebanon
'Day of rage' as Hezbollah takes power in Lebanon - World news - Mideast/N. Africa - msnbc.com


TRIPOLI, Lebanon — Hundreds of angry protesters burned tires and blocked roads across Lebanon on Tuesday after Iranian-backed Hezbollah secured the appointment of its candidate to lead the next government.

The nomination of Najib Mikati as prime minister, endorsed by President Michel Suleiman, is seen a victory for Hezbollah, which secured the parliamentary votes needed to wrest control of the Lebanese government.

Hezbollah's control over the government for the first time will sound alarm bells in Washington and Israel and raise concerns in moderate Sunni Arab states.

The protesters turned out in many cities in support of Mikati's defeated rival Saad al-Hariri, a Sunni Muslim whose government was ousted this month by Shiite Hezbollah and its allies in a dispute over the investigation of his father's assassination in 2005.

The protests were part of a "day of anger" called by loyalists of Hariri, who is backed by Saudi Arabia and Washington, to protest against Hezbollah, funded and supported by Tehran.

You gotta admire the way the are going about it.

The Palistinians first (a victim class), then spread into Lebanan, get elected to the point they have full control, and Irans hands are CLEAN.

Iran has a military that scares the crap outta the rest of the ME, so none of those countries will do a damn thing.


Who's next? My money is on Jordan. thier reliance on a tourism economy would seem to make them ripe for take over.

 

[zzzz]

Back in the day when Persia was under the influence of the US that was what we wanted from them. What is our reason for being in the area. There is only one thing we want from there and that is oil. A Muslim Middle east will still sell oil because without money they would revert to the desert nomacdic economy which existed before the oil boom. Sure they had an embargo back in the early 70's but they are more dependent on oil now than they were back then. If we packed up and left the region nothing would change as to the availabilty of oil.

Of course the dispute with Israel may cause complications and that has always been the main point of contention between the middle eastern countries and the US. Solve that problem (if it can ever be solved) and everything else will fall into place.

 

[Sallow]

They will back Hezbolla, and Hezbolla will get elected into seats of power and do and Iran commands.

'Day of rage' as Hezbollah gains power in Lebanon
'Day of rage' as Hezbollah takes power in Lebanon - World news - Mideast/N. Africa - msnbc.com


TRIPOLI, Lebanon — Hundreds of angry protesters burned tires and blocked roads across Lebanon on Tuesday after Iranian-backed Hezbollah secured the appointment of its candidate to lead the next government.

The nomination of Najib Mikati as prime minister, endorsed by President Michel Suleiman, is seen a victory for Hezbollah, which secured the parliamentary votes needed to wrest control of the Lebanese government.

Hezbollah's control over the government for the first time will sound alarm bells in Washington and Israel and raise concerns in moderate Sunni Arab states.

The protesters turned out in many cities in support of Mikati's defeated rival Saad al-Hariri, a Sunni Muslim whose government was ousted this month by Shiite Hezbollah and its allies in a dispute over the investigation of his father's assassination in 2005.

The protests were part of a "day of anger" called by loyalists of Hariri, who is backed by Saudi Arabia and Washington, to protest against Hezbollah, funded and supported by Tehran.

You gotta admire the way the are going about it.

The Palistinians first (a victim class), then spread into Lebanan, get elected to the point they have full control, and Irans hands are CLEAN.

Iran has a military that scares the crap outta the rest of the ME, so none of those countries will do a damn thing.


Who's next? My money is on Jordan. thier reliance on a tourism economy would seem to make them ripe for take over.

They learned from the best..

 

[High_Gravity]

They will back Hezbolla, and Hezbolla will get elected into seats of power and do and Iran commands.

'Day of rage' as Hezbollah gains power in Lebanon
'Day of rage' as Hezbollah takes power in Lebanon - World news - Mideast/N. Africa - msnbc.com


TRIPOLI, Lebanon — Hundreds of angry protesters burned tires and blocked roads across Lebanon on Tuesday after Iranian-backed Hezbollah secured the appointment of its candidate to lead the next government.

The nomination of Najib Mikati as prime minister, endorsed by President Michel Suleiman, is seen a victory for Hezbollah, which secured the parliamentary votes needed to wrest control of the Lebanese government.

Hezbollah's control over the government for the first time will sound alarm bells in Washington and Israel and raise concerns in moderate Sunni Arab states.

The protesters turned out in many cities in support of Mikati's defeated rival Saad al-Hariri, a Sunni Muslim whose government was ousted this month by Shiite Hezbollah and its allies in a dispute over the investigation of his father's assassination in 2005.

The protests were part of a "day of anger" called by loyalists of Hariri, who is backed by Saudi Arabia and Washington, to protest against Hezbollah, funded and supported by Tehran.

You gotta admire the way the are going about it.

The Palistinians first (a victim class), then spread into Lebanan, get elected to the point they have full control, and Irans hands are CLEAN.

Iran has a military that scares the crap outta the rest of the ME, so none of those countries will do a damn thing.


Who's next? My money is on Jordan. thier reliance on a tourism economy would seem to make them ripe for take over.

Syria is a possibility, the Islamists don't like Bashar Assad, so they would love to see him fall. I knew Lebanon was finished as soon as they let Hezbollah into their government, Islamic groups don't want to share power they want to run the whole fucking show.

 

[uscitizen]

Get elected into power...

You have a problem with democracy?

 

[High_Gravity]

I forgot to mention Egypt.

 

[Two Thumbs]

They will back Hezbolla, and Hezbolla will get elected into seats of power and do and Iran commands.

'Day of rage' as Hezbollah gains power in Lebanon
'Day of rage' as Hezbollah takes power in Lebanon - World news - Mideast/N. Africa - msnbc.com


TRIPOLI, Lebanon — Hundreds of angry protesters burned tires and blocked roads across Lebanon on Tuesday after Iranian-backed Hezbollah secured the appointment of its candidate to lead the next government.

The nomination of Najib Mikati as prime minister, endorsed by President Michel Suleiman, is seen a victory for Hezbollah, which secured the parliamentary votes needed to wrest control of the Lebanese government.

Hezbollah's control over the government for the first time will sound alarm bells in Washington and Israel and raise concerns in moderate Sunni Arab states.

The protesters turned out in many cities in support of Mikati's defeated rival Saad al-Hariri, a Sunni Muslim whose government was ousted this month by Shiite Hezbollah and its allies in a dispute over the investigation of his father's assassination in 2005.

The protests were part of a "day of anger" called by loyalists of Hariri, who is backed by Saudi Arabia and Washington, to protest against Hezbollah, funded and supported by Tehran.

You gotta admire the way the are going about it.

The Palistinians first (a victim class), then spread into Lebanan, get elected to the point they have full control, and Irans hands are CLEAN.

Iran has a military that scares the crap outta the rest of the ME, so none of those countries will do a damn thing.


Who's next? My money is on Jordan. thier reliance on a tourism economy would seem to make them ripe for take over.

They learned from the best..

And that would be?

 

[High_Gravity]

Hezbollah, Hamas and several other Islamic groups have central offices in Syria. Not to mention numerous Iraqi insurgent groups.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Back in the day when Persia was under the influence of the US that was what we wanted from them. What is our reason for being in the area. There is only one thing we want from there and that is oil. A Muslim Middle east will still sell oil because without money they would revert to the desert nomacdic economy which existed before the oil boom. Sure they had an embargo back in the early 70's but they are more dependent on oil now than they were back then. If we packed up and left the region nothing would change as to the availabilty of oil.

Of course the dispute with Israel may cause complications and that has always been the main point of contention between the middle eastern countries and the US. Solve that problem (if it can ever be solved) and everything else will fall into place.

"Solve that problem (if it can ever be solved) ..."

Of course, they will never solve the problem....start from that premise.

Z, one regularly hears of the time "Back in the day when Persia was under the influence of the US..."
but how many know of the day when 'Persia' was under the influence of the Nazis?

The name Iran means ‘Aryan,’ and was chosen to support a massive Nazi-dominated infrastructure which was ready to provide oil to the Nazis. By the early 1930s, Reza Pahlavi's close ties with Nazi Germany began worrying the Allied states.[8] Germany's modern state and economy highly impressed the Shah, and there were hundreds of Germans involved in every aspect of the state, from setting up factories to building roads, railroads and bridges.[9] German?Iranian relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Geopolitics often means more than 'follow the money.'

 

[uptownlivin90]

They're running in democratic elections and winning. I see nothing that concerns me here.

 

[Sallow]

They will back Hezbolla, and Hezbolla will get elected into seats of power and do and Iran commands.

'Day of rage' as Hezbollah gains power in Lebanon
'Day of rage' as Hezbollah takes power in Lebanon - World news - Mideast/N. Africa - msnbc.com


TRIPOLI, Lebanon — Hundreds of angry protesters burned tires and blocked roads across Lebanon on Tuesday after Iranian-backed Hezbollah secured the appointment of its candidate to lead the next government.

The nomination of Najib Mikati as prime minister, endorsed by President Michel Suleiman, is seen a victory for Hezbollah, which secured the parliamentary votes needed to wrest control of the Lebanese government.

Hezbollah's control over the government for the first time will sound alarm bells in Washington and Israel and raise concerns in moderate Sunni Arab states.

The protesters turned out in many cities in support of Mikati's defeated rival Saad al-Hariri, a Sunni Muslim whose government was ousted this month by Shiite Hezbollah and its allies in a dispute over the investigation of his father's assassination in 2005.

The protests were part of a "day of anger" called by loyalists of Hariri, who is backed by Saudi Arabia and Washington, to protest against Hezbollah, funded and supported by Tehran.

You gotta admire the way the are going about it.

The Palistinians first (a victim class), then spread into Lebanan, get elected to the point they have full control, and Irans hands are CLEAN.

Iran has a military that scares the crap outta the rest of the ME, so none of those countries will do a damn thing.


Who's next? My money is on Jordan. thier reliance on a tourism economy would seem to make them ripe for take over.

They learned from the best..

And that would be?

The United States..

We've fought plenty of Proxy wars..and heck..we overthrew the elected government of Iran using spook methods.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Get elected into power...

You have a problem with democracy?

Of course not. Don't be silly.

But you have to admit it's a great way to run the show.

Using Democracy, something Iran only pays lip service to, they now control the Pals and Lebanon.

Israel is nearly surrounded by people fully loyal to Iran. It's only a matter of time before they start to issue ultimatums.

 

[Two Thumbs]

They learned from the best..

And that would be?

The United States..

We've fought plenty of Proxy wars..and heck..we overthrew the elected government of Iran using spook methods.

meh. true

Do you think they will be able to control better than we did or will they go down in revolt, like it did for us?

 

[Two Thumbs]

Hezbollah, Hamas and several other Islamic groups have central offices in Syria. Not to mention numerous Iraqi insurgent groups.

Looking at the map, I need to adjust who I think is next.

Controlling the West Bank and Lebenon, the next best place would be Egypt. That would surround Israel with Iranian puppets.

Jordon would be very helpfull but Syria isn't actually needed.

 

[uptownlivin90]

Get elected into power...

You have a problem with democracy?

Of course not. Don't be silly.

But you have to admit it's a great way to run the show.

Using Democracy, something Iran only pays lip service to, they now control the Pals and Lebanon.

Israel is nearly surrounded by people fully loyal to Iran. It's only a matter of time before they start to issue ultimatums.

It's an interesting situation. It puts a sour taste in the mouth of freedom, sure, but there's really nothing you can do about it. With the dollar weakened, and America's economy dwindling, Israel looks to be in even more trouble. There's a perception in the World that Israel is defenseless without the United States funneling hundreds of millions of dollars to them every year. I doubt that's the case, but our money supply is dgoing to run out soon, so Israel might be in a spot where they might have to prove themselves to be self-reliant.

 

[zzzz]

Back in the day when Persia was under the influence of the US that was what we wanted from them. What is our reason for being in the area. There is only one thing we want from there and that is oil. A Muslim Middle east will still sell oil because without money they would revert to the desert nomacdic economy which existed before the oil boom. Sure they had an embargo back in the early 70's but they are more dependent on oil now than they were back then. If we packed up and left the region nothing would change as to the availabilty of oil.

Of course the dispute with Israel may cause complications and that has always been the main point of contention between the middle eastern countries and the US. Solve that problem (if it can ever be solved) and everything else will fall into place.

"Solve that problem (if it can ever be solved) ..."

Of course, they will never solve the problem....start from that premise.

Z, one regularly hears of the time "Back in the day when Persia was under the influence of the US..."
but how many know of the day when 'Persia' was under the influence of the Nazis?

The name Iran means ‘Aryan,’ and was chosen to support a massive Nazi-dominated infrastructure which was ready to provide oil to the Nazis. By the early 1930s, Reza Pahlavi's close ties with Nazi Germany began worrying the Allied states.[8] Germany's modern state and economy highly impressed the Shah, and there were hundreds of Germans involved in every aspect of the state, from setting up factories to building roads, railroads and bridges.[9] German?Iranian relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Geopolitics often means more than 'follow the money.'

And Israel was originally supported by diplomatic means and weapons by Russia. A few laters we were the backers and Russia was backing their enemies. Geopolitical relationships can be turned upside down in a minute depending on the "flavor of the day'"

 

[High_Gravity]

Hezbollah, Hamas and several other Islamic groups have central offices in Syria. Not to mention numerous Iraqi insurgent groups.

Looking at the map, I need to adjust who I think is next.

Controlling the West Bank and Lebenon, the next best place would be Egypt. That would surround Israel with Iranian puppets.

Jordon would be very helpfull but Syria isn't actually needed.

Jordan would be tough, the Jordan Intelligence are ruthless and don't fuck around.

 

[Samson]

Get elected into power...

You have a problem with democracy?

Of course not. Don't be silly.

But you have to admit it's a great way to run the show.

Using Democracy, something Iran only pays lip service to, they now control the Pals and Lebanon.

Israel is nearly surrounded by people fully loyal to Iran. It's only a matter of time before they start to issue ultimatums.

Like what "ultimatum?"

If any country is prepared to receive ultimatums, I'd expect Israel would be at the top of the list.

 

[PoliticalChic]

They learned from the best..

And that would be?

The United States..

We've fought plenty of Proxy wars..and heck..we overthrew the elected government of Iran using spook methods.

Wrong.

Mossadegh himself was appointed prime minister by the parliament upon recommendation of the Shah himself.

Parliament did not change. Only Mossadegh, the prime minister, was deposed. He was elected by parliament (which remained after he was deposed), not by any popular vote. And constitutionally, his dismissal was arguably within the Shah's power anyways.

"On March 15, the Majlis voted to nationalize the oil industry. In April the shah yielded to Majlis pressure and demonstrations in the streets by naming Mossadeq prime minister."
Iran - MOSSADEQ AND OIL NATIONALIZATION


"The plot, known as Operation Ajax, centered around convincing Iran's monarch to use his constitutional authority to dismiss Mossadegh from office, as he had attempted some months earlier."
Mohammed Mossadeq - Discussion and Encyclopedia Article. Who is Mohammed Mossadeq? What is Mohammed Mossadeq? Where is Mohammed Mossadeq? Definition of Mohammed Mossadeq. Meaning of Mohammed Mossadeq.


But one can always count on folks like you, Sal, to promote the 'Blame America First' perspective.

One can only marvel at your consistency, as the above information will, I am certain, have absolutely no effect on your future dissemination of misinformation.

Carry on.

 

[Trajan]

wow, just saw this.

this was set up 3 years ago when the leb army caved and let hezzby shut them and Beirut down over the airport smuggling issues and telecommunications networks infrastructure dust up.

Result? Hezzby owned the streets....

then the UN indictments for the Rafik Hariri assassination...they have been sitting on it..Hezzby sent a warning shot across their bow last month, the UN sat on it...and now Hezzby in a brilliant move looking ahead of the UN et al has preempted them by just flexing its muscle, and they caved again, they, the UN, EU and US have been presented with a fait accompli, the indictments would be even more worthless now.

So this certainly follows....we live a fools life, we meet a fools end.

As much as it pains me to say it; Iran, well done. They played us, along with Syria ( who has played us too) , they took advantage of every angle, between our complete ineptitude and blundering ala the Palestinian-Jewish issues, and in the region overall, along with craven UN and Euro leadership….

last port of call for this ship of fools, all ashore that’s going ashore.