CDZ Inviting ALL leftists for an HONEST conversation

[Tehon]

Come on...the Nazi's form of government was a far cry from what Bernie Sanders is advocating.

A means to the same totalitarian ends....You really think those who come after ol' Batshit Bernie are going to just stop there?

The capitalists are busy at work right now sifting through your data trying to predict your habits.

Is capital not a means to a totalitarian end?

 

[Oddball]

Come on...the Nazi's form of government was a far cry from what Bernie Sanders is advocating.

A means to the same totalitarian ends....You really think those who come after ol' Batshit Bernie are going to just stop there?

Once AGAIN there's nothing "totalitarian" about it on its own terms. Where a moment ago you were dropping an adjective as inconvenient, now you're inserting one in.

Socialism is totalitarian as a matter of course.

 

[HenryBHough]

The left actually did try something like what has been described.

It was funded by a blend of contributions by the "haves" AND, in a nod to capitalism, paid advertising.

It was called "Air America".

Briefly.

 

[Oddball]

The capitalists are busy at work right now sifting through your data trying to predict your habits.

Is capital not a means to a totalitarian end?

Corporatists and mercantilists aren't capitalists.

 

[Tehon]

The capitalists are busy at work right now sifting through your data trying to predict your habits.

Is capital not a means to a totalitarian end?

Corporatists and mercantilists aren't capitalists.

Read the question again.

 

[Pogo]

Come on...the Nazi's form of government was a far cry from what Bernie Sanders is advocating.

A means to the same totalitarian ends.

Not really...sure, sander's socialism if taken to extremes would end up bad for everyone probably but it'd be a lot closer to Stalin than Hitler dont you think?

You concentrate that much power in that few hands, and you will attract to it those who see that power as an end unto itself.

uh huh. Ever hear of "political parties"?

 

[Pogo]

Come on...the Nazi's form of government was a far cry from what Bernie Sanders is advocating.

A means to the same totalitarian ends....You really think those who come after ol' Batshit Bernie are going to just stop there?

Once AGAIN there's nothing "totalitarian" about it on its own terms. Where a moment ago you were dropping an adjective as inconvenient, now you're inserting one in.

Socialism is totalitarian as a matter of course.

Prove that.

 

[Oddball]

The capitalists are busy at work right now sifting through your data trying to predict your habits.

Is capital not a means to a totalitarian end?

Corporatists and mercantilists aren't capitalists.

Read the question again.

I read it just fine...Those people aren't capitalists....Zuckerberg, Pichai, et. al. are corporatist slime.

 

[Confounding]

You really think those who come after ol' Batshit Bernie are going to just stop there?

Do you think they'll jump from free healthcare to killing Jews and conquering the world?

 

[Oddball]

Come on...the Nazi's form of government was a far cry from what Bernie Sanders is advocating.

A means to the same totalitarian ends....You really think those who come after ol' Batshit Bernie are going to just stop there?

Once AGAIN there's nothing "totalitarian" about it on its own terms. Where a moment ago you were dropping an adjective as inconvenient, now you're inserting one in.

Socialism is totalitarian as a matter of course.

Prove that.

Nazi Germany, USSR, Maoist China, Cambodia, Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea.

 

[Oddball]

You really think those who come after ol' Batshit Bernie are going to just stop there?

Do you think they'll jump from free healthcare to killing Jews and conquering the world?

Too stupid a question to take seriously.

 

[Confounding]

You really think those who come after ol' Batshit Bernie are going to just stop there?

Do you think they'll jump from free healthcare to killing Jews and conquering the world?

Too stupid a question to take seriously.

Why?

Where do you think they'll go after universal healthcare and public university?

 

[impuretrash]

The capitalists are busy at work right now sifting through your data trying to predict your habits.

Is capital not a means to a totalitarian end?

Corporatists and mercantilists aren't capitalists.

Read the question again.

I read it just fine...Those people aren't capitalists....Zuckerberg, Pichai, et. al. are corporatist slime.

What's the difference?

 

[P@triot]

So you’re saying that all socialists don’t care enough about the socialism they demand to actively engage in socialism in a voluntary capacity? Do I have that right?

I'm saying they wouldn't be able to muster enough money to solve big problems on their own. They know that, so they will use the government to force you to help a little bit.

Where do they derive the power to force me to do anything? What constitutes a “little bit” (because they already take a shit-ton).

 

[Pogo]

Come on...the Nazi's form of government was a far cry from what Bernie Sanders is advocating.

A means to the same totalitarian ends....You really think those who come after ol' Batshit Bernie are going to just stop there?

Once AGAIN there's nothing "totalitarian" about it on its own terms. Where a moment ago you were dropping an adjective as inconvenient, now you're inserting one in.

Socialism is totalitarian as a matter of course.

Prove that.

Nazi Germany, USSR, Maoist China, Cambodia, Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea.

I said "Prove that", not "take a finger walk around your globe".

Nazi Germany was in no way "socialist" anyway, and you know that.

 

[Pogo]

You really think those who come after ol' Batshit Bernie are going to just stop there?

Do you think they'll jump from free healthcare to killing Jews and conquering the world?

Too stupid a question to take seriously.

Hey, you set it up with your Godwin meme. Came home to roost.

You're not big on the whole consistency thing are ya.

 

[P@triot]

Where do you think they'll go after universal healthcare and public university?

Well...where haven’t they gone so far? They’ve tried to ban firearms and ammo. They’ve tried to ban sugary soda and other foods. They’ve tried to ban speech and privacy.

 

[Confounding]

Where do they derive the power to force me to do anything?

The government? They seized the power with guns. They will kill us if we don't do what they say.

 

[impuretrash]

A means to the same totalitarian ends....You really think those who come after ol' Batshit Bernie are going to just stop there?

Once AGAIN there's nothing "totalitarian" about it on its own terms. Where a moment ago you were dropping an adjective as inconvenient, now you're inserting one in.

Socialism is totalitarian as a matter of course.

Prove that.

Nazi Germany, USSR, Maoist China, Cambodia, Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea.

I said "Prove that", not "take a finger walk around your globe".

Nazi Germany was in no way "socialist" anyway, and you know that.

Nazi Germany had lots of social programs intended to improve the quality of life for their citizens, didn't they?

 

[Oddball]

You really think those who come after ol' Batshit Bernie are going to just stop there?

Do you think they'll jump from free healthcare to killing Jews and conquering the world?

Too stupid a question to take seriously.

Why?

Where do you think they'll go after universal healthcare and public university?

You're naive enough to believe it will end there....History shows you to be tragically wrong.