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my two sentence posts make more sense than your epic poststhat's funny coming from a guy who writes disjointed two sentence post.. exclusively
and thinks censorship..is freedom of speech
i doubt those men ever said any such thing in the first placeCommander Ted Muga, U.S. Navy (ret) – Retired Naval aviator (Grumman E-1 and E-2). Retired Pan-Am commercial airline pilot (Boeing 707 and 727).
Interview Alex Jones Show 4/11/07:
Alex Jones: Recap Hani Hanjour's maneuver, what they claim -- go through the maneuver they claim he did and then what supposedly happened there at the Pentagon ...
Commander Muga: The maneuver at the Pentagon was just a tight spiral coming down out of 7,000 feet. And a commercial aircraft, while they can in fact structurally somewhat handle that maneuver, they are very, very, very difficult. And it would take considerable training. In other words, commercial aircraft are designed for a particular purpose and that is for comfort and for passengers and it's not for military maneuvers. And while they are structurally capable of doing them, it takes some very, very talented pilots to do that. ...
When a commercial airplane gets that high, it gets very, very close to getting into what you refer to as a speed high-speed stall. And a high-speed stall can be very, very violent on a commercial-type aircraft and you never want to get into that situation. I just can't imagine an amateur even being able to come close to performing a maneuver of that nature.
And as far as hijacking the airplanes, once again getting back to the nature of pilots and airplanes, there is no way that a pilot would give up an airplane to hijackers. ...
I mean, hell, a guy doesn't give up a TV remote control much less a complicated 757. And so to think that pilots would allow a plane to be taken over by a couple of 5 foot 7, 150 pound guys with a one-inch blade boxcutter is ridiculous.
And also in all four planes, if you remember, none of the planes ever switched on their transponder to the hijack code. There's a very, very simple code that you put in if you suspect that your plane is being hijacked. It takes literally just a split-second for you to put your hand down on the center console and flip it over. And not one of the four planes ever transponded a hijack code, which is most, most unusual. ...
Commercial airplanes are very, very complex pieces of machines. And they're designed for two pilots up there, not just two amateur pilots, but two qualified commercial pilots up there. And to think that you're going to get an amateur up into the cockpit and fly, much less navigate, it to a designated target, the probability is so low, that it's bordering on impossible." Appears half way through the second hour segment at radio archive real data recovery at realradioarchives.com
Joel M. Skousen – Former U.S. Marine Corps fighter pilot. Commercial pilot. Aircraft flown: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom, Douglas A-4 Skyhawk, Grumman F-9 Cougar, North American T-2C Buckeye, various civilian planes. Member, Experimental Aircraft Association. Member, Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association. Former Chairman of the Conservative National Committee in Washington DC and Executive Editor of Conservative Digest. Author of Essential Principles for the Conservation of Liberty (1984), The Secure Home--Architectural Design, Construction and Remodeling of Self-Sufficient Residences and Retreats (1982, 1999), How to Implement a High Security Shelter in the Home (1996), Strategic Relocation--North American Guide to Safe Places (1998), Foundations of the Ideal State (2007).
Essay Debunking the Debunkers 2/14/05: "For over a decade now, the PTB [Powers That Be] have used an odd vehicle to do their debunking on a variety of issues - Popular Mechanics Magazine (a Hearst publication). I suppose they are targeting the back-yard mechanic and auto-enthusiast crowd, who are often prone to accepting conspiracy facts and theories.
In the March 2005 issue, PM magazine singled out 16 issues or claims of the 9/11 skeptics that point to government collusion and systematically attempted to debunk each one. Of the 16, most missed the mark and almost half were straw men arguments - either ridiculous arguments that few conspiracists believed or restatements of the arguments that were highly distorted so as to make them look weaker than they really were. ...
I am one of those who claim there are factual arguments pointing to conspiracy, and that truth is not served by taking cheap shots at those who see gaping flaws in the government story ...
There is significant evidence that the aircraft impacts did not cause the collapse [of the Twin Towers] ...
The issues of the penetration hole [at the Pentagon] and the lack of large pieces of debris simply do not jive with the official story, but they are explainable if you include the parking lot video evidence that shows a huge white explosion at impact. This cannot happen with an aircraft laden only with fuel. It can only happen in the presence of high explosives." Jeff Rense Program
dive-con would like to silence these men..take their voice from them...because he knows more than they do
[/B]then why dont you prove they never said it ? why dont you draw it to ther attention their names have been slandered ..provide some evidence of this mass conspiracy of fake radio nterveiws .magzine articals and false petions instead of your lame ass... probablys..I MEAN STOP THE PRESS.. I THINK YOU HAVE A HUGE STORY HERE ..CALL THE MEDIA...ASSHOLE
<snipped utter bullshit>
LOLthe media wouldn't care that false petitions with CIA and FBI agents are being created ?and posted on the Internet and being disseminated through national radio broadcast and film through out the nation..really ? NASA wouldn't care ..the astronauts wouldn't even care their careers and reputations where being maligned in such away ?...really ?...hm-mm ..how odd...and the reason they would int care is its just EOTS crap?...DO I understand you premise correctly ?...uh ..I'm pretty sure that it is indeed you that has some pretty wild conspiracy theory's not me and the patriots
Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report
LOL
no one cares because no one believes you
if there were many people that actually believed your bullshit, then they might care
NO ONE..believes me ..OR NO ONE BELIEVES ME or no one believes the ..the men and woman on the patriots question 911 site ?or the millions of films sold...and if no one believed the why would their be attempts to censor and why would you support this ?
but since you show over and over again that you lack credibility, i wouldnt care much if you claimed i said something because i would just deny it and that would be it
you are a faceless name on the internet
why should i care what a moron like you says, beyond the humorous level for my own entertainment
i go and do what i wish, so you can "go home boy"its not my creditability that's in question it is the validity of the patriotsquestion 911 site and that has been established and their credentials speak for themselves...so yuk it up clown..you just established your a closed minded fool with no intention of exercising reason...and besides your beat...walk on home boy..... your out of your depth
when did i ever say they didnt have that rightwell then maybe you should respect that rights of men of honor and service... to be free to do the same and you can become a man..in the process..it is vital..these men and woman can express these opinion regardless of what you think of those opinions.. as important to you as it is. me..even if you don't realise it
no i didntyou applauded the attempts of the homeland security to link these sites with terror sites to restrict access..probably with little or no thought to the bigger picture and simply because you don't personally agree with them...instead of being concerned with how this effects the liberty of all..you offered you blind approval
nopeDIVECON
Its about time something was done to remove these liars ability to spread lies
SOUNDS LIKE APPROVAL TO ME
please show me where the constitution guaranteed you a venue?you have no clue what your even talking about..limiting.. like yoiur nazi counterparts that introduced free speech zones
please show me where the constitution guaranteed you a venue?
any venue you wish
it doesn't
if i run a forum, it is MY option to allow you that venue or not to
that is MY constitutional rights
just like any other site can remove that ability from you with THEIR rights
its not violating the constitution
you clearly don't understand what your constitutional rights are or you would KNOW that already
thus you are nothing more than a whiny asshole screaming "MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS ARE BEING VIOLATED" when they are NOT
so, you morons dont think it helps the terrorists to claim our own government did it?we are not talking about private forums we are talking about homeland security having the ability to block access to sites they deem terrorist and tainting everyone connected to the site as supporting terror and it violates the constitution