Immanuel
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What's wrong with controlling the poor? We're already doing it. We have to have some sort of system in place in order to provide for them. This is a specious argument with no downside.
Do you want to be manipulated?
See that is where I differ so much with people on the left. I think that the poor should be helped but allowed to lead their own lives whereas, it seems (if you weren't being sarcastic that is) that you want to control them and run their lives for them... make them vote for the people that YOU want to control them.
It is clear that this is the type of control that our political leaders (both Republican and Democrat) want over us.
Immie
I don't agree and had no idea that you actually meant control their lives. I was speaking more of having them in the system. Nobody makes anybody vote for anybody, that's crazy talk.
You think so?
You don't think that both parties don't try to "control" their bases and steal as many voters from the other side's bases? You don't think that the rhetoric of the Democratic Party is not geared towards convincing the poor that only they will help take from the evil rich people and give the deserving poor everything they need? edit: and that if the poor don't vote for Democrats then the poor will spend the next four years at least hungry and ignored?
You don't believe that the Republicans don't attempt to convince religious people that only the Republicans will fight against abortion and the ever dreaded Gay Marriage? edit: and that if church members don't vote for Republicans, there will be abortion on demand, forced abortions, gay marriages will outnumber straight marriages and Universal Healthcare is just around the corner?
Don't you realize that this whole debate about healthcare is about control?
It may sound crazy to you, but politicians are out to control us.
Politics is all about control.
Immie
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