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What is it?
Is it bad?
Is it thriving, extinct or somewhere in between?
Abolish it.If necessary, what can be done about it?
What is institutionalized racism?
So no one knows?
But if you are referring to Affirmative Action I don't see how you (or anyone) could consider it racist as it covers everyone, regardless of "race, color, religion, sex, or national origin."So no one knows?
I think it's racial discrimination that society in general sees as acceptable or at least tolerable, and/or is also codified into law.
Good enough?
So no one knows?
Having a chip on your shoulder doesn't qualify as institutionalized racism.So no one knows?
Two bigtime examples:
The only way one can be authentically black is one must be a Democrat
Muslims that hate anyone who isn't.
A couple more is groups like the NAACP and isolated Black churches that preach hatred of whites and Jews.
Having a chip on your shoulder doesn't qualify as institutionalized racism.So no one knows?
Two bigtime examples:
The only way one can be authentically black is one must be a Democrat
Muslims that hate anyone who isn't.
A couple more is groups like the NAACP and isolated Black churches that preach hatred of whites and Jews.
I was talking about you, but whatever.Having a chip on your shoulder doesn't qualify as institutionalized racism.Two bigtime examples:
The only way one can be authentically black is one must be a Democrat
Muslims that hate anyone who isn't.
A couple more is groups like the NAACP and isolated Black churches that preach hatred of whites and Jews.
I agree.
Are youi speaking of yourself or somebody else you know.
But if you are referring to Affirmative Action I don't see how you (or anyone) could consider it racist as it covers everyone, regardless of "race, color, religion, sex, or national origin."So no one knows?
I think it's racial discrimination that society in general sees as acceptable or at least tolerable, and/or is also codified into law.
Good enough?
If there are incidences of whites being discriminated against then, by law, the affirmative action laws must cover them as well. That this doesn't seem to happen merely means that white people aren't discriminated against on a regular basis.But if you are referring to Affirmative Action I don't see how you (or anyone) could consider it racist as it covers everyone, regardless of "race, color, religion, sex, or national origin."I think it's racial discrimination that society in general sees as acceptable or at least tolerable, and/or is also codified into law.
Good enough?
If AA is used as a preferential tool in employment or admittance, then yes I believe it is discriminatory by race--as far as what's relative to this thread. I see it this way because I try to flip it around: what if the policy was a hiring/admittance preference given to whites. As illogical as that would be in the real world, it's the principle that I'm going after. And that hypothetical policy seems blatantly racist to me, so as a matter of principle I try to apply that same feeling to the policy as it actually is.
This is not to say it's necessarily unjustified. I believe there was a study done a few (?) years ago that said something to the effect that, if an applicant has a non-European sounding name, they're half as likely to get the interview than someone who does. I don't remember the year, could be from the 70s for all I know.
I have to go run some errands, but I'll check in around dinner. This could be an interesting topic, but I have a feeling it's going to get shit on by our horde of stormfronters.
btw, probably the better argument for why AA doesn't fit in this thread would have been that institutional racism can only be done by those who control the institution, aka--cracker ppl.
I was talking about you, but whatever.Having a chip on your shoulder doesn't qualify as institutionalized racism.
I agree.
Are youi speaking of yourself or somebody else you know.
I'm still waiting for someone to explain what institutionalized racism is and where it exists.