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Do you Also condemn the occupation, the Assaults by the police and army on civilians And the separation wall?
Do you Also condemn the occupation, the Assaults by the police and army on civilians And the separation wall?
I probably should condemn the occupation of Arab Palestine in the Jewish National Homeland (by treaty and international agreement), but I don't. I believe the Arab Palestinian people have developed enough of a self-identification to qualify for self-determination and it seems to me that Israel has more than sufficiently demonstrated its willingness to accept a further loss of her territory in exchange for mutual recognition and peace.
Appropriate law enforcement seems entirely reasonable to me. If you have examples of inappropriate law enforcement, I'd be glad to discuss on an individual basis. (Elor Azoria's example is inappropriate law enforcement, and criminal behaviour, imo, which Israel's justice system got right. Though I have to say, if the goal of Arab Palestinian assaults on both civilians and LEO's is to create terror, they can't very well get pissy when Israelis get scared and over-react. Just saying.)
I absolutely do not condemn the building of the Wall. Division of the territory is based on an equal principle of self-determination for BOTH parties whose worldview and behavior are entirely incompatible with each other. The wall protects BOTH peoples from unnecessary violence and the resulting self-defense it necessitates. Walls are not always a good thing. I'm not speaking to all walls. But this particular wall serves, ultimately, a good (temporary, one hopes) purpose.
I am DELIGHTED that you chose to respond to my post. I was hoping you would. Now, its your turn. Do you condemn the attack on the Fogel family? On Hallel Ariel? Levana Malihi (and the death of the man who tried to save her, Yosef Kirma)? Of Moshe Twersky, Aryeh Kupinsky, Avraham Goldberg, Kalman Levine (and the death of the man who tried to save them Zidan Seif)? Of Dafna Meir? I could go on....
The last time you and I discussed this -- far from condemning these attacks, you celebrated them and justified them by saying that ALL Israeli citizens, including children and babies, are legitimate targets and that it is morally permissible to kill them.