in the eyes of the catholic church and god, what is the status of usa soliders iniraq

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    I have been reading up on the just war doctrine, specifically the vatican's response to iraq.

    Based on numerous articles such as this one:

    Catholic Just War Theory and Iraq

    it is clear that the vatican was against the war. where does this leave usa soldiers who are going to iraq to fight? I would think that once they are there, any killing on the field who fall under self defense, but what about pre-deployment? From what I know, jesus said that you follow your govs rules as long as they don't break his. Seeing how catholics believe that the pope is infallible (one to one with god on things he says related to the church), aren't catholic soliders out of line with their church if they deploy to iraq knowing they will be killing. should they take the religious objector way out?
     
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    in the eyes of the catholic church and god, what is the status of usa soliders iniraq
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    I Don't know and don't really care.
    Does it matter?
     
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    considering we have catholic soldiers fighting & waiting to be deployed to that war I wuold think it matters. why did you even respond?
     
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    Not sure why I responded.

    Apologies, an error on my part.
     
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    st augustine developed a theology of just war, that is, war that is acceptable under certain conditions. First, war must occur for a good and just purpose rather than for self-gain or as an exercise of power. Second, just war must be waged by a properly instituted authority such as the state. Third, peace must be a central motive even in the midst of violence.

    this is a very simplified but fairly accurate statement of catholic teaching on war. google st thomas aquinas summa theoligica for more.

    imo, iraq meets the criteria for a just war, although i opposed it and continue to do so
     
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    Unless you are Catholic and serving, why do you care?
     
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    If it is that much of a problem for them, why would they join the military in the first place?
     
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    It's not a problem for them. Lots of Catholics join the military. Blu is clearly either bored or stupid.... or possibly a balance of the two.
     
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    I figured as much!
    Plus all they have to do is go to confessional and all will be fine. ;)
    That is one good thing about the Catholic religion, you can always ask for forgiveness.
     
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    True. We do have the 'get out of jail free' card. :cool: Downside is you do have to be sorry - and you can't fool God. :eek:

    Actually, thinking about it..... I need to haul ass back to confession and mean it this time. :eusa_whistle:
     

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