Socialism was Based on Christianity

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    I've notice the comparisons between socialism/fascism/and communism and have been told that they were christian like. Some of this is true since it was the Saint-Simons of germany that were preaching a new political religion based on love and brotherhood. It sounds pretty christian so, for argument sakes, I'm going to give this one to our liberal friends that to be a christian is to believe in the ideas of socialism.

    Don't we have the right to choose our own religion in this country and if socialism is something based on a religion doesn't that mean we can choose not to participate in the socialist religion?

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    Jesus was definitely socialist. He preached for socialism of the soul. To think outside of your own circumstances and care for others. Thats of course wrapped in love others as you love yourself.

    There is nothing in the new testament that references socialism of government. I see nothing wrong for the people in this country to use their government to help improve their lives, especially for our less fortunate. How far we take that is always up for debate. But as long as government isn't oppressing the people, we should have the ability to use government however we want.
     
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    socialism was how the proverbial cave man, survived.... tribes stuck together early on, and socialism, or taking care of one another, those in their clan or group even if inferior, was key to survival back then...this was before organized religions.
     
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    Interesting point but what is socialism without the state?
     
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    So somehow socialism, which was created by non practicing jews, is based on Christianity....

    Im sure they were looking at Christianity as a source of their new political philosophy... right.
     
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    The concept of brotherhood among men...

    I only said a few elements of christianity are found in socialism. It is not a remake of a religion.

    Anyhow, you have got to admit their is a sense of religious precepts in socialist thinking.
     
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    Any notion that socialism is based on Christianity, terribly misunderstands either Christianity, Socialism, or both.

    Jesus, over and over again exorted us to give to one another and to the needy. yet in order to give, we must have. property, under Christianity is still recognized as private. It is just that the owner of the property changes as gifts are given from one to another, but the property is always privately owned. Indeed consumable property must always be privately owned, it is absurd to speak of the whole of society owning a coat, a house, or a meal.

    This is why Socialism is the aim of abolishing not private property in consumers goods, but in the factors of production. But Christianity not only passively allows for, but insists on the private ownership of the factors of production. It is through this, that they who own them are able to provide for their brethren.

    The other key difference of course is that socialism is through the force of the government. But that Jesus says to give. One can not be forced to give. Giving must be freely done. God commands us to be charitable, but as soon as we are forced to give, it is not charity.
     
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    If you are a Reverend, surely you grasp the concept of 'charity'. Jesus didn't say that everyone HAD to give to others. He said that we should - he said we should be charitable and help our fellow man. I do that, I do not need to be forced to do it by someone else. You cannot use the teachings of Christ to back up socialism.... unless you're an idiot.... or a liberal.... or a combination of the two.
     
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    Karl Marx was a Christian?
     
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    Just another example of the lefties trying to make socialism more palatable.

    And like most of the stuff they perpetuate, it's a lie.
     

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