In 2007 Obama Said.."military Is Air-raiding Villages, Killing Civilians" Obama Déjà Vu?

[BluesLegend]

Bush had the support of the American people, including most liberals and Democrats when he went after bin Laden is Afghanistan. BUT, he lost my support when he invaded Iraq, who had NOTHING to do with 9/11.

And the guy who actually won the 2000 election warned us a year before that invasion of Iraq that it would create chaos.

Gore Comes Out Swinging On Iraq

Al Gore harshly criticized President Bush's push for war against Iraq, saying it has hurt the United States' standing and could dangerously undermine the rule of law around the world.

"After Sept. 11, we had enormous sympathy, goodwill and support around the world," Gore said. "We've squandered that, and in one year we've replaced that with fear, anxiety and uncertainty, not at what the terrorists are going to do but at what we are going to do."

In his first major speech on the Iraq situation, the once and possibly future Democratic presidential candidate accused Mr. Bush of abandoning the goal of a world where nations follow laws.

"That concept would be displaced by the notion that there is no law but the discretion of the president of the United States," an idea Gore said would encourage instability around the globe.

"If other nations assert the same right, then the rule of law will quickly be replaced by the reign of fear," and any nation that perceives itself threatened would feel justified in starting wars, he said.

Gore said the Bush administration policy could alienate allies and derail the war on terror.

"If you are going after Jesse James, you ought to organize the posse first," Gore said in a speech to an enthusiastic crowd to the Commonwealth Club of California.

He added, "We should focus first and foremost on our top priority: winning the war against terrorism."

Republicans quickly pounced on the speech as evidence of Gore's weakness.

"It seemed to be a speech more appropriate for a political hack than a presidential candidate by someone who clearly fails to recognize leadership," said Jim Dyke, a Republican National Committee spokesman.

Gore always has supported overthrowing Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and was one of the few Senate Democrats who voted in favor of the Gulf War resolution after Iraq attacked Kuwait. He said he felt betrayed by the first President Bush's "hasty withdrawal from the battlefield."

But like other leading Democrats, Gore has expressed reservations in recent months about military action against Iraq, suggesting the diplomatic costs would be extremely high.

His speech Monday was much more critical, warning of ominous and untold consequences, ranging from a short-term power vacuum that could increase the danger of chemical and biological attacks, to the creation of legions of enemies angry and fearful about U.S. domination.

"If we end the war in Iraq the way we ended the war in Afghanistan, we could easily be worse off than we are today," Gore said.

Gore described his speech as an effort to lay out an alternative to the course of action pursued by the Bush administration.

Even before securing United Nations support for a multinational war against Iraq, Mr. Bush asked Congress to approve the use of "all means that he determines to be appropriate, including force," in a unilateral effort to topple Saddam.

Gore urged Congress not to give the president such a broad mandate.

"It needs to be narrowed," said Gore, adding that Congress should urge Bush to go back to the U.N. Security Council and secure the "broadest possible international support" for a regime change in Iraq.

He also said he would decide in December whether to challenge Mr. Bush again for the presidency in 2004.

Former President Jimmy Carter also criticized Mr. Bush's stance on Iraq today, saying it would be a grave mistake to attack Iraq without support from the United Nations.
CBS News

Many liberal leaders in congress voted for the Iraq war. Some liberals who initially voted against the war demanded a second vote so they could vote for it. I think you left that part off.

You're right. Many Democrats put being elected ahead of doing what was right. But if the corrupt Supreme Court hadn't stole the election from Gore, there would have never been a 2003 invasion and war in Iraq that has led to the chaos and vacuum that ISIS has seized upon.

Democrats yearn for dictators. For themselves and others.

That's no joke either, they feel bound and hog tied by the Constitution and accountability to voters. In 2009 with complete and total power, House majority, super majority in the Senate, and the White House what happened...yes they ignored the will of the people and ran amok doing whatever they pleased. To the point that the people bitch slapped them with an epic beating in the 2010 elections. The most historic ass whooping of the last 60 years. Just imagine if they obtain that majority power for 10 or 20 years vs a couple of years.

 

[BluesLegend]

Bush had the support of the American people, including most liberals and Democrats when he went after bin Laden is Afghanistan. BUT, he lost my support when he invaded Iraq, who had NOTHING to do with 9/11.

And the guy who actually won the 2000 election warned us a year before that invasion of Iraq that it would create chaos.

Gore Comes Out Swinging On Iraq

Al Gore harshly criticized President Bush's push for war against Iraq, saying it has hurt the United States' standing and could dangerously undermine the rule of law around the world.

"After Sept. 11, we had enormous sympathy, goodwill and support around the world," Gore said. "We've squandered that, and in one year we've replaced that with fear, anxiety and uncertainty, not at what the terrorists are going to do but at what we are going to do."

In his first major speech on the Iraq situation, the once and possibly future Democratic presidential candidate accused Mr. Bush of abandoning the goal of a world where nations follow laws.

"That concept would be displaced by the notion that there is no law but the discretion of the president of the United States," an idea Gore said would encourage instability around the globe.

"If other nations assert the same right, then the rule of law will quickly be replaced by the reign of fear," and any nation that perceives itself threatened would feel justified in starting wars, he said.

Gore said the Bush administration policy could alienate allies and derail the war on terror.

"If you are going after Jesse James, you ought to organize the posse first," Gore said in a speech to an enthusiastic crowd to the Commonwealth Club of California.

He added, "We should focus first and foremost on our top priority: winning the war against terrorism."

Republicans quickly pounced on the speech as evidence of Gore's weakness.

"It seemed to be a speech more appropriate for a political hack than a presidential candidate by someone who clearly fails to recognize leadership," said Jim Dyke, a Republican National Committee spokesman.

Gore always has supported overthrowing Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and was one of the few Senate Democrats who voted in favor of the Gulf War resolution after Iraq attacked Kuwait. He said he felt betrayed by the first President Bush's "hasty withdrawal from the battlefield."

But like other leading Democrats, Gore has expressed reservations in recent months about military action against Iraq, suggesting the diplomatic costs would be extremely high.

His speech Monday was much more critical, warning of ominous and untold consequences, ranging from a short-term power vacuum that could increase the danger of chemical and biological attacks, to the creation of legions of enemies angry and fearful about U.S. domination.

"If we end the war in Iraq the way we ended the war in Afghanistan, we could easily be worse off than we are today," Gore said.

Gore described his speech as an effort to lay out an alternative to the course of action pursued by the Bush administration.

Even before securing United Nations support for a multinational war against Iraq, Mr. Bush asked Congress to approve the use of "all means that he determines to be appropriate, including force," in a unilateral effort to topple Saddam.

Gore urged Congress not to give the president such a broad mandate.

"It needs to be narrowed," said Gore, adding that Congress should urge Bush to go back to the U.N. Security Council and secure the "broadest possible international support" for a regime change in Iraq.

He also said he would decide in December whether to challenge Mr. Bush again for the presidency in 2004.

Former President Jimmy Carter also criticized Mr. Bush's stance on Iraq today, saying it would be a grave mistake to attack Iraq without support from the United Nations.
CBS News

Many liberal leaders in congress voted for the Iraq war. Some liberals who initially voted against the war demanded a second vote so they could vote for it. I think you left that part off.

You're right. Many Democrats put being elected ahead of doing what was right. But if the corrupt Supreme Court hadn't stole the election from Gore, there would have never been a 2003 invasion and war in Iraq that has led to the chaos and vacuum that ISIS has seized upon.

Do tell.

How did ISIS form in Syria? They "became" in Syria. They were just another run of the mill chump change AQ affiliate (AQI) in Iraq. Car bombers and the like. No big smurfs.

It took the US to destabilize Syria by trying to overthrow Assad with Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and others. The CIA has been helping with the smuggling of weapons into Syria as well as helping with the training of these fake rebels.

Syria is where the vacuum occurred. Syria is where they became world class rock star jihadists.



Give it up. Obama allowed ISIS to form and grow into the wealthiest and most powerful terror army on the planet by taking over 1/3 of Syria BEFORE they invaded Iraq.

He owns this.

BULLSHIT!!!

Bush owns this lock, stock barrel...

ISIS Fast Facts
CNN
Unable to serve under the new Iraq government after Saddam Hussein's military was disbanded, former Iraqi soldiers became ISIS fighters, according to Middle East expert Fawaz Gerges.

Leader:
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: Very little is known about al-Baghdadi, but a biography posted on jihadist websites in 2013 said he earned a doctorate in Islamic studies from a university in Baghdad.

He formed the militant group in Salaheddin and Diyala provinces north of the Iraqi capital before joining al Qaeda in Iraq.

Al-Baghdadi was detained for four years in Camp Bucca, which was a U.S.-run prison in southern Iraq. He was released in 2009.

After ISIS declared the creation of the so-called "Islamic State," he began using the name Al-Khalifah Ibrahim, and now goes by that name with his followers.

Timeline:
2004 - Abu Musab al-Zarqawi establishes al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI).

2006 - Under al-Zarqawi, al Qaeda in Iraq tries to ignite a sectarian war against the majority Shia community.

June 7, 2006 - Al-Zarqawi is killed in a U.S. strike. Abu Ayyub al-Masri, also known as Abu Hamza al-Muhajer, takes his place as leader of AQI.

October 2006 - AQI leader Abu Ayyub al-Masri announces the creation of Islamic State in Iraq (ISI), and establishes Abu Omar al-Baghdadi as its leader.

April 2010 - Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi becomes leader of ISI after Abu Omar al-Baghdadi and Abu Ayyub al-Masri are killed in a joint U.S.-Iraqi operation.

April 8, 2013 - ISI declares its absorption of an al Qaeda-backed militant group in Syria, Jabhat al-Nusra, also known as the al-Nusra Front. Al-Baghdadi says that his group will now be known as Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIS).

Hello earth to Obama worshipers Obama has been president now for 5 years he owns it, he wanted to own it, he begged to own it not once but twice, he said give me the ball I got this, vote for me I'll be in charge, I'll take responsibility. You people need to come to grips with the clowns failures that's all.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

No no. Dems drop healing bombs.

 

[The Rabbi]

Bush had the support of the American people, including most liberals and Democrats when he went after bin Laden is Afghanistan. BUT, he lost my support when he invaded Iraq, who had NOTHING to do with 9/11.

And the guy who actually won the 2000 election warned us a year before that invasion of Iraq that it would create chaos.

Gore Comes Out Swinging On Iraq

Al Gore harshly criticized President Bush's push for war against Iraq, saying it has hurt the United States' standing and could dangerously undermine the rule of law around the world.

"After Sept. 11, we had enormous sympathy, goodwill and support around the world," Gore said. "We've squandered that, and in one year we've replaced that with fear, anxiety and uncertainty, not at what the terrorists are going to do but at what we are going to do."

In his first major speech on the Iraq situation, the once and possibly future Democratic presidential candidate accused Mr. Bush of abandoning the goal of a world where nations follow laws.

"That concept would be displaced by the notion that there is no law but the discretion of the president of the United States," an idea Gore said would encourage instability around the globe.

"If other nations assert the same right, then the rule of law will quickly be replaced by the reign of fear," and any nation that perceives itself threatened would feel justified in starting wars, he said.

Gore said the Bush administration policy could alienate allies and derail the war on terror.

"If you are going after Jesse James, you ought to organize the posse first," Gore said in a speech to an enthusiastic crowd to the Commonwealth Club of California.

He added, "We should focus first and foremost on our top priority: winning the war against terrorism."

Republicans quickly pounced on the speech as evidence of Gore's weakness.

"It seemed to be a speech more appropriate for a political hack than a presidential candidate by someone who clearly fails to recognize leadership," said Jim Dyke, a Republican National Committee spokesman.

Gore always has supported overthrowing Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and was one of the few Senate Democrats who voted in favor of the Gulf War resolution after Iraq attacked Kuwait. He said he felt betrayed by the first President Bush's "hasty withdrawal from the battlefield."

But like other leading Democrats, Gore has expressed reservations in recent months about military action against Iraq, suggesting the diplomatic costs would be extremely high.

His speech Monday was much more critical, warning of ominous and untold consequences, ranging from a short-term power vacuum that could increase the danger of chemical and biological attacks, to the creation of legions of enemies angry and fearful about U.S. domination.

"If we end the war in Iraq the way we ended the war in Afghanistan, we could easily be worse off than we are today," Gore said.

Gore described his speech as an effort to lay out an alternative to the course of action pursued by the Bush administration.

Even before securing United Nations support for a multinational war against Iraq, Mr. Bush asked Congress to approve the use of "all means that he determines to be appropriate, including force," in a unilateral effort to topple Saddam.

Gore urged Congress not to give the president such a broad mandate.

"It needs to be narrowed," said Gore, adding that Congress should urge Bush to go back to the U.N. Security Council and secure the "broadest possible international support" for a regime change in Iraq.

He also said he would decide in December whether to challenge Mr. Bush again for the presidency in 2004.

Former President Jimmy Carter also criticized Mr. Bush's stance on Iraq today, saying it would be a grave mistake to attack Iraq without support from the United Nations.
CBS News

Many liberal leaders in congress voted for the Iraq war. Some liberals who initially voted against the war demanded a second vote so they could vote for it. I think you left that part off.

You're right. Many Democrats put being elected ahead of doing what was right. But if the corrupt Supreme Court hadn't stole the election from Gore, there would have never been a 2003 invasion and war in Iraq that has led to the chaos and vacuum that ISIS has seized upon.

Butt hut much?
There wasnt a single recount that ever showed Gore winning Florida. As many times as that fact has been shown you cling to the idea that Bush was the selected president. What does that really say about your mental capacity?

The Florida Recount of 2000


Al Gore, not George Bush, should be sitting in the White House today as the newly elected president of the United States, two new independent probes of the disputed Florida election contest have confirmed.
The first survey, conducted on behalf of the Washington Post, shows that Mr Gore had a nearly three-to-one majority among 56,000 Florida voters whose November 7 ballot papers were discounted because they contained more than one punched hole.

The second and separate survey, conducted on behalf of the Palm Beach Post, shows that Mr Gore had a majority of 682 votes among the discounted "dimpled" ballots in Palm Beach county.

In each case, if the newly examined votes had been allowed to count in the November election, Mr Gore would have won Florida's 21 electoral college votes by a narrow majority and he, not Mr Bush, would be the president. Instead, Mr Bush officially carried Florida by 537 votes after recounts were stopped.

In spite of the findings, no legal challenge to the Florida result is possible in the light of the US supreme court's 5-4 ruling in December to hand the state to Mr Bush. But the revelations will continue to cast a cloud, to put it mildly, over the democratic legitimacy of Mr Bush's election.
Florida recounts make Gore winner World news The Guardian

Wow, the butt hurt is strong in this one.
There was not a single recount that ever showed Gore winning. Even though in many districts when the recount was done every ballot not explicitly for Bush was counted for Gore.

 

[tinydancer]

Bush had the support of the American people, including most liberals and Democrats when he went after bin Laden is Afghanistan. BUT, he lost my support when he invaded Iraq, who had NOTHING to do with 9/11.

And the guy who actually won the 2000 election warned us a year before that invasion of Iraq that it would create chaos.

Gore Comes Out Swinging On Iraq

Al Gore harshly criticized President Bush's push for war against Iraq, saying it has hurt the United States' standing and could dangerously undermine the rule of law around the world.

"After Sept. 11, we had enormous sympathy, goodwill and support around the world," Gore said. "We've squandered that, and in one year we've replaced that with fear, anxiety and uncertainty, not at what the terrorists are going to do but at what we are going to do."

In his first major speech on the Iraq situation, the once and possibly future Democratic presidential candidate accused Mr. Bush of abandoning the goal of a world where nations follow laws.

"That concept would be displaced by the notion that there is no law but the discretion of the president of the United States," an idea Gore said would encourage instability around the globe.

"If other nations assert the same right, then the rule of law will quickly be replaced by the reign of fear," and any nation that perceives itself threatened would feel justified in starting wars, he said.

Gore said the Bush administration policy could alienate allies and derail the war on terror.

"If you are going after Jesse James, you ought to organize the posse first," Gore said in a speech to an enthusiastic crowd to the Commonwealth Club of California.

He added, "We should focus first and foremost on our top priority: winning the war against terrorism."

Republicans quickly pounced on the speech as evidence of Gore's weakness.

"It seemed to be a speech more appropriate for a political hack than a presidential candidate by someone who clearly fails to recognize leadership," said Jim Dyke, a Republican National Committee spokesman.

Gore always has supported overthrowing Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and was one of the few Senate Democrats who voted in favor of the Gulf War resolution after Iraq attacked Kuwait. He said he felt betrayed by the first President Bush's "hasty withdrawal from the battlefield."

But like other leading Democrats, Gore has expressed reservations in recent months about military action against Iraq, suggesting the diplomatic costs would be extremely high.

His speech Monday was much more critical, warning of ominous and untold consequences, ranging from a short-term power vacuum that could increase the danger of chemical and biological attacks, to the creation of legions of enemies angry and fearful about U.S. domination.

"If we end the war in Iraq the way we ended the war in Afghanistan, we could easily be worse off than we are today," Gore said.

Gore described his speech as an effort to lay out an alternative to the course of action pursued by the Bush administration.

Even before securing United Nations support for a multinational war against Iraq, Mr. Bush asked Congress to approve the use of "all means that he determines to be appropriate, including force," in a unilateral effort to topple Saddam.

Gore urged Congress not to give the president such a broad mandate.

"It needs to be narrowed," said Gore, adding that Congress should urge Bush to go back to the U.N. Security Council and secure the "broadest possible international support" for a regime change in Iraq.

He also said he would decide in December whether to challenge Mr. Bush again for the presidency in 2004.

Former President Jimmy Carter also criticized Mr. Bush's stance on Iraq today, saying it would be a grave mistake to attack Iraq without support from the United Nations.
CBS News

Many liberal leaders in congress voted for the Iraq war. Some liberals who initially voted against the war demanded a second vote so they could vote for it. I think you left that part off.

You're right. Many Democrats put being elected ahead of doing what was right. But if the corrupt Supreme Court hadn't stole the election from Gore, there would have never been a 2003 invasion and war in Iraq that has led to the chaos and vacuum that ISIS has seized upon.

Do tell.

How did ISIS form in Syria? They "became" in Syria. They were just another run of the mill chump change AQ affiliate (AQI) in Iraq. Car bombers and the like. No big smurfs.

It took the US to destabilize Syria by trying to overthrow Assad with Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and others. The CIA has been helping with the smuggling of weapons into Syria as well as helping with the training of these fake rebels.

Syria is where the vacuum occurred. Syria is where they became world class rock star jihadists.



Give it up. Obama allowed ISIS to form and grow into the wealthiest and most powerful terror army on the planet by taking over 1/3 of Syria BEFORE they invaded Iraq.

He owns this.

BULLSHIT!!!

Bush owns this lock, stock barrel...

ISIS Fast Facts
CNN
Unable to serve under the new Iraq government after Saddam Hussein's military was disbanded, former Iraqi soldiers became ISIS fighters, according to Middle East expert Fawaz Gerges.

Leader:
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi: Very little is known about al-Baghdadi, but a biography posted on jihadist websites in 2013 said he earned a doctorate in Islamic studies from a university in Baghdad.

He formed the militant group in Salaheddin and Diyala provinces north of the Iraqi capital before joining al Qaeda in Iraq.

Al-Baghdadi was detained for four years in Camp Bucca, which was a U.S.-run prison in southern Iraq. He was released in 2009.

After ISIS declared the creation of the so-called "Islamic State," he began using the name Al-Khalifah Ibrahim, and now goes by that name with his followers.

Timeline:
2004 - Abu Musab al-Zarqawi establishes al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI).

2006 - Under al-Zarqawi, al Qaeda in Iraq tries to ignite a sectarian war against the majority Shia community.

June 7, 2006 - Al-Zarqawi is killed in a U.S. strike. Abu Ayyub al-Masri, also known as Abu Hamza al-Muhajer, takes his place as leader of AQI.

October 2006 - AQI leader Abu Ayyub al-Masri announces the creation of Islamic State in Iraq (ISI), and establishes Abu Omar al-Baghdadi as its leader.

April 2010 - Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi becomes leader of ISI after Abu Omar al-Baghdadi and Abu Ayyub al-Masri are killed in a joint U.S.-Iraqi operation.

April 8, 2013 - ISI declares its absorption of an al Qaeda-backed militant group in Syria, Jabhat al-Nusra, also known as the al-Nusra Front. Al-Baghdadi says that his group will now be known as Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIS).

Hell's bells I can go back to the freaking Ottoman Empire in every discussion.about radical jihad.

The key to this timeline that you and so many others have put out there trying to blame ISIS on Bush is that none of what happened in Iraq mattered whatsoever up until the west and Arab States began trying to overthrow Assad.

AQI was chump change. Two bit terrorists with very little power. No wealth. Little backing from Gulf nations. They went thru leaders and name changes pulling off car bombings and kidnappings here and there.

No power. Just another dime a dozen Mohammed six pack jihadist wannabes.

The entitity that we know as ISIS under Baghdadi "became" in Syria.

How was that able to happen? Ask Obama. Ask Cameron. Ask Harper. Ask Merkel. Ask Hollande.

They are all guilty of attempting to overthrow Assad along with Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar and Jordan and creating the conditions that ISIS AND al Nusra were able to become successful rock star jihadists.

The Obama administration along with others have been directly involved with smuggling weapons to fake rebels via the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood.

ISIS became the better team more so than al Nusra because they really have a kick ass military team who were able to not only seize great swaths of land but hold great areas of Syria and now Iraq.

I'm tired of this bullshit of the "begats". I won't play that game because it is just a way to deflect from the here and now.

Of course history plays a role in today but going back to WWI in every freaking thread on the Middle East is garbage and I don't have time for it.

I know my history. I expect others to know and understand the history behind every current event before I enter a discussion.

ISIS became in Syria.

 

[The Rabbi]

Bush had the support of the American people, including most liberals and Democrats when he went after bin Laden is Afghanistan. BUT, he lost my support when he invaded Iraq, who had NOTHING to do with 9/11.

And the guy who actually won the 2000 election warned us a year before that invasion of Iraq that it would create chaos.

Gore Comes Out Swinging On Iraq

Al Gore harshly criticized President Bush's push for war against Iraq, saying it has hurt the United States' standing and could dangerously undermine the rule of law around the world.

"After Sept. 11, we had enormous sympathy, goodwill and support around the world," Gore said. "We've squandered that, and in one year we've replaced that with fear, anxiety and uncertainty, not at what the terrorists are going to do but at what we are going to do."

In his first major speech on the Iraq situation, the once and possibly future Democratic presidential candidate accused Mr. Bush of abandoning the goal of a world where nations follow laws.

"That concept would be displaced by the notion that there is no law but the discretion of the president of the United States," an idea Gore said would encourage instability around the globe.

"If other nations assert the same right, then the rule of law will quickly be replaced by the reign of fear," and any nation that perceives itself threatened would feel justified in starting wars, he said.

Gore said the Bush administration policy could alienate allies and derail the war on terror.

"If you are going after Jesse James, you ought to organize the posse first," Gore said in a speech to an enthusiastic crowd to the Commonwealth Club of California.

He added, "We should focus first and foremost on our top priority: winning the war against terrorism."

Republicans quickly pounced on the speech as evidence of Gore's weakness.

"It seemed to be a speech more appropriate for a political hack than a presidential candidate by someone who clearly fails to recognize leadership," said Jim Dyke, a Republican National Committee spokesman.

Gore always has supported overthrowing Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and was one of the few Senate Democrats who voted in favor of the Gulf War resolution after Iraq attacked Kuwait. He said he felt betrayed by the first President Bush's "hasty withdrawal from the battlefield."

But like other leading Democrats, Gore has expressed reservations in recent months about military action against Iraq, suggesting the diplomatic costs would be extremely high.

His speech Monday was much more critical, warning of ominous and untold consequences, ranging from a short-term power vacuum that could increase the danger of chemical and biological attacks, to the creation of legions of enemies angry and fearful about U.S. domination.

"If we end the war in Iraq the way we ended the war in Afghanistan, we could easily be worse off than we are today," Gore said.

Gore described his speech as an effort to lay out an alternative to the course of action pursued by the Bush administration.

Even before securing United Nations support for a multinational war against Iraq, Mr. Bush asked Congress to approve the use of "all means that he determines to be appropriate, including force," in a unilateral effort to topple Saddam.

Gore urged Congress not to give the president such a broad mandate.

"It needs to be narrowed," said Gore, adding that Congress should urge Bush to go back to the U.N. Security Council and secure the "broadest possible international support" for a regime change in Iraq.

He also said he would decide in December whether to challenge Mr. Bush again for the presidency in 2004.

Former President Jimmy Carter also criticized Mr. Bush's stance on Iraq today, saying it would be a grave mistake to attack Iraq without support from the United Nations.
CBS News

Many liberal leaders in congress voted for the Iraq war. Some liberals who initially voted against the war demanded a second vote so they could vote for it. I think you left that part off.

You're right. Many Democrats put being elected ahead of doing what was right. But if the corrupt Supreme Court hadn't stole the election from Gore, there would have never been a 2003 invasion and war in Iraq that has led to the chaos and vacuum that ISIS has seized upon.

Do tell.

How did ISIS form in Syria? They "became" in Syria. They were just another run of the mill chump change AQ affiliate (AQI) in Iraq. Car bombers and the like. No big smurfs.

It took the US to destabilize Syria by trying to overthrow Assad with Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey and others. The CIA has been helping with the smuggling of weapons into Syria as well as helping with the training of these fake rebels.

Syria is where the vacuum occurred. Syria is where they became world class rock star jihadists.



Give it up. Obama allowed ISIS to form and grow into the wealthiest and most powerful terror army on the planet by taking over 1/3 of Syria BEFORE they invaded Iraq.

He owns this.

BULLSHIT!!!

Bush owns this lock, stock barrel...

.

Bush has not been president for 6 years. Obama has been president for 6 years. In that time he had ample opportunity to make plans, develop strategy, and implement programs. Instead he played golf ad attended fundraisers.
Obama's foreign policy is a disaster.

 

[BlindBoo]

"[w]e've got to get the job done there [in Afghanistan] and that requires us to have enough troops so that we're not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous pressure over there."

Hate to break it to you but at the time we were and it was. But then again history is of no use to you propagandists is it? The enemies of our country send their thanks to the Right Wing Echo Chamber.

 

[paulitician]

Ah, it's different this time. So the Obamabots say anyway. It's 'Because Obama.'