I’m Voting for Comrade Bernie

[Weatherman2020]

I'm not a Bernie fan, but let's have honest discussions, okay?

Ok, honestly, Bernie's policies, if implemented, will destroy our country.

Bush's policies already did that, and Trump is doing the same damn thing.

Yeah, terrible for you Leftards everybody’s got a job, wages are rising, savings accounts are growing. Devastating.

 

[DBA]

Bush's policies already did that, and Trump is doing the same damn thing

Yeah, his policies are just killing us. That is what the MSM keeps telling you. I have to laugh as I watch the complete loons debate and talk about how the economy is not doing well and try to spin it by saying it is not doing well for EVERYONE. It will never do well for EVERYONE, but it is doing well for the vast majority of people and for more people than under Obama.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah, terrible for you Leftards everybody’s got a job, wages are rising, savings accounts are growing. Devastating.

Yet Trump is trailing all the Democrats. I wonder why. Oh, yeah.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah, his policies are just killing us. That is what the MSM keeps telling you. I have to laugh as I watch the complete loons debate and talk about how the economy is not doing well and try to spin it by saying it is not doing well for EVERYONE. It will never do well for EVERYONE, but it is doing well for the vast majority of people and for more people than under Obama.

Except it's not, for reasons I stated above.

The RICH have done well under Trump. The rest of us, not so much.

A good economy is one where no one has to drive a fucking Uber to make ends meet.

 

[gipper]

I'm not a Bernie fan, but let's have honest discussions, okay?

Ok, honestly, Bernie's policies, if implemented, will destroy our country.

Bush's policies already did that, and Trump is doing the same damn thing.

You forgot to add your Messiah. He bailed out the rich while doing nothing for those the rich screwed.

 

[JoeB131]

You forgot to add your Messiah. He bailed out the rich while doing nothing for those the rich screwed.

Really? Frankly, my job in 2009 would have probably disappeared if he hadn't done the Auto Bailout.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Yeah, terrible for you Leftards everybody’s got a job, wages are rising, savings accounts are growing. Devastating.

Yet Trump is trailing all the Democrats. I wonder why. Oh, yeah.

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Your polls and $6 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

 

[gipper]

You forgot to add your Messiah. He bailed out the rich while doing nothing for those the rich screwed.

Really? Frankly, my job in 2009 would have probably disappeared if he hadn't done the Auto Bailout.

Well at least he helped one person. I take it all back. LOL.

 

[Weatherman2020]

You forgot to add your Messiah. He bailed out the rich while doing nothing for those the rich screwed.

Really? Frankly, my job in 2009 would have probably disappeared if he hadn't done the Auto Bailout.

Well at least he helped one person. I take it all back. LOL.

You run on trying to convince voters they don’t know their own personal economic situation, Dufus.

 

[gipper]

You forgot to add your Messiah. He bailed out the rich while doing nothing for those the rich screwed.

Really? Frankly, my job in 2009 would have probably disappeared if he hadn't done the Auto Bailout.

Well at least he helped one person. I take it all back. LOL.

You run on trying to convince voters they don’t know their own personal economic situation, Dufus.

?

 

[Thunderbird]

If you think China was the world’s second largest economy in 1976 you are quite stupid. In reality Mao destroyed the Chinese economy.

Not really. But you guys keep telling yourself that. I remember that everyone is the 1960's was more terrified of China than they were of Russia. Then Tricky Dick met with Mao and they became our buddies.

You are wrong. China’s GNP in 1976 was lower than Canada’s. China ranked number 9 in the world.

List of countries by past and projected GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia

 

[Zorro!]

If you think China was the world’s second largest economy in 1976 you are quite stupid. In reality Mao destroyed the Chinese economy.

Not really. But you guys keep telling yourself that. I remember that everyone is the 1960's was more terrified of China than they were of Russia. Then Tricky Dick met with Mao and they became our buddies.

You are wrong. China’s GNP in 1976 was lower than Canada’s. China ranked number 9 in the world.

List of countries by past and projected GDP (nominal) - Wikipedia

American Consumers built the Chinese Economy on the backs of the American Worker via the foolish and self-serving decisions of the Deep State.

 

[Calypso Jones]

History is littered with environmental disasters, but few compare to the one kicked off in 1958 in China. That was the year Mao Zedong, the founding father of the People's Republic of China, decided that his country could do without pests like sparrows. The impact of this ill-conceived decision — along with many other policies he put in place — caused a domino effect of destruction. Three years later, as many as 45 million people were dead.

How did this happen? It all started nine years after the Communist Party of China took power. That year Zedong initiated what he dubbed the Great Leap Forward, a massive social and economic campaign that, among many other things, turned farming into a collective, state-sponsored activity. Individual, private farming was banned as part of China's transformation into a communist system.

One of Zedong's first actions after collectivizing agriculture was probably intended to protect the farms. Sparrows, he was told, ate a lot of grain seeds, so Zedong ordered the people to go forth and kill all the sparrows. During the Great Sparrow Campaign, as it has been called, hundreds of millions of sparrows were killed, mostly because people chased them until the birds were so tired that they fell out of the sky. (The campaign was part of the broader Four Pests Campaign, which also targeted rats, flies and mosquitoes — all with the aim of improving human hygiene.)

The problem with the Great Sparrow Campaign became evident in 1960. The sparrows, it seemed, didn't only eat grain seeds. They also ate insects. With no birds to control them, insect populations boomed. Locusts, in particular, swarmed over the country, eating everything they could find — including crops intended for human consumption. People, on the other hand, quickly ran out of things to eat, and millions starved. Numbers vary, of course, with the official number from the Chinese government placed at 15 million. Some scholars, however, estimate that the fatalities were as high as 45 or even 78 million. Chinese journalist Yang Jisheng, who chronicled the famine in his book "Tombstone," estimates the deaths at 36 million people. (The book, published in the U.S. last year, is banned in China.)

But the people didn't go down quickly or easily. "Documents report several thousand cases where people ate other people," Yang told NPR in 2012. "Parents ate their own kids. Kids ate their own parents." The behavior was so awful — with thousands of people murdered for food or for speaking out against the government — that the topic of what has become known as the Great Famine remains taboo in China more than 50 years later.

Perhaps the most tragic aspect is that most of those deaths were unnecessary. Although the fields were empty, massive grain warehouses held enough food to feed the entire country — but the government never released it.

>snip<

But the story is leaking out. Yang told NPR that the book has been counterfeited and the e-book pirated in China, something he doesn't care about. "Our history is all fabricated. It's been covered up. If a country can't face its own history, then it has no future," he said.

Full story at the link ... The Great Sparrow Campaign Was the Start of the Greatest Mass Starvation in History

"If a country can't face its own history then it has no future." Wise words to take heed of.

 

[JoeB131]

History is littered with environmental disasters, but few compare to the one kicked off in 1958 in China. That was the year Mao Zedong, the founding father of the People's Republic of China, decided that his country could do without pests like sparrows. The impact of this ill-conceived decision — along with many other policies he put in place — caused a domino effect of destruction. Three years later, as many as 45 million people were dead.

How did this happen? It all started nine years after the Communist Party of China took power. That year Zedong initiated what he dubbed the Great Leap Forward, a massive social and economic campaign that, among many other things, turned farming into a collective, state-sponsored activity. Individual, private farming was banned as part of China's transformation into a communist system.

One of Zedong's first actions after collectivizing agriculture was probably intended to protect the farms. Sparrows, he was told, ate a lot of grain seeds, so Zedong ordered the people to go forth and kill all the sparrows. During the Great Sparrow Campaign, as it has been called, hundreds of millions of sparrows were killed, mostly because people chased them until the birds were so tired that they fell out of the sky. (The campaign was part of the broader Four Pests Campaign, which also targeted rats, flies and mosquitoes — all with the aim of improving human hygiene.)

The problem with the Great Sparrow Campaign became evident in 1960. The sparrows, it seemed, didn't only eat grain seeds. They also ate insects. With no birds to control them, insect populations boomed. Locusts, in particular, swarmed over the country, eating everything they could find — including crops intended for human consumption. People, on the other hand, quickly ran out of things to eat, and millions starved. Numbers vary, of course, with the official number from the Chinese government placed at 15 million. Some scholars, however, estimate that the fatalities were as high as 45 or even 78 million. Chinese journalist Yang Jisheng, who chronicled the famine in his book "Tombstone," estimates the deaths at 36 million people. (The book, published in the U.S. last year, is banned in China.)

But the people didn't go down quickly or easily. "Documents report several thousand cases where people ate other people," Yang told NPR in 2012. "Parents ate their own kids. Kids ate their own parents." The behavior was so awful — with thousands of people murdered for food or for speaking out against the government — that the topic of what has become known as the Great Famine remains taboo in China more than 50 years later.

Perhaps the most tragic aspect is that most of those deaths were unnecessary. Although the fields were empty, massive grain warehouses held enough food to feed the entire country — but the government never released it.

>snip<

But the story is leaking out. Yang told NPR that the book has been counterfeited and the e-book pirated in China, something he doesn't care about. "Our history is all fabricated. It's been covered up. If a country can't face its own history, then it has no future," he said.

Full story at the link ... The Great Sparrow Campaign Was the Start of the Greatest Mass Starvation in History

"If a country can't face its own history then it has no future." Wise words to take heed of.

The 1950's called. They want their Bircher Talking points back. Not to mention Joe McCarthy's corpse... and whatever you've been doing with it.

 

[Calypso Jones]

Conservatives don't dig up dead bodies. That's liberal behavior....digging up civil war dead and disposing of their bodies.
Is the death of millions of people, even the chinese, nothing to you? Shelving inconvenient history... even when our own gov't is going down the same path.

 

[JoeB131]

Conservatives don't dig up dead bodies. That's liberal behavior....digging up civil war dead and disposing of their bodies.
Is the death of millions of people, even the chinese, nothing to you? Shelving inconvenient history... even when our own gov't is going down the same path.

A couple of things you don't seem to get.

Yes, the number of LEGITIMATE deaths during the Chinese Revolution and Civil War was tragic.
So was the number of Chinese deaths during the Japanese invasions that started in 1931.
So were there number of deaths during the Warlord Era when western powers and Japan openly undermined the Chinese Republican government supporting local warlords.
So were the millions of Chinese deaths during the Taiping Rebellion, led by some nut who thought he was Jesus's brother.

Also, I wasn't aware ANYONE dug up the Civil War Dead, other than Klan Leader Nathan Bedford Forrest, and not much to complain about since his rotting putrid corpse had already been moved once to put it under an obscene statue.

 

[Thunderbird]

More on Communist mass murder: Opinion | Mao's Great Leap to Famine (Published 2010)